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| Sam Sloan 2005-08-04, 8:31 pm |
| I am intrigued by the potential of
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
for locating false posters.
For example, yesterday I was able to use this service to establish
that Neil Brennen had posted a fake anonymous biography of me.
I moved my Internet service from Jamaica Queens to the Morris Heights
Section of the Bronx on July 25-26, 2005.
Since the move, my Verio postings have been from
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.45.216.80
My last posting from Jamaica Queens was on July 25, 2005 at 4:05 AM
under Re: What's Next for Chess HQ? where I wrote "Hanke wrote that
right here".
It was from
NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.202.94.119
My next posting was the following day from the Bronx:
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:12:26 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.45.216.80
Under Subject: Re: Chess and Supreme Court I wrote "I will have to
post this one on my website too."
This service should make it more easy to catch the fake posters.
Sam Sloan
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| Liam Too 2005-08-04, 8:31 pm |
| Sam Sloan wrote:
quote:
> I am intrigued by the potential of
> http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
> for locating false posters.
>
> For example, yesterday I was able to use this service to establish
> that Neil Brennen had posted a fake anonymous biography of me.
>
> I moved my Internet service from Jamaica Queens to the Morris Heights
> Section of the Bronx on July 25-26, 2005.
>
> Since the move, my Verio postings have been from
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.45.216.80
>
> My last posting from Jamaica Queens was on July 25, 2005 at 4:05 AM
> under Re: What's Next for Chess HQ? where I wrote "Hanke wrote that
> right here".
>
> It was from
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.202.94.119
>
> My next posting was the following day from the Bronx:
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:12:26 GMT
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.45.216.80
>
> Under Subject: Re: Chess and Supreme Court I wrote "I will have to
> post this one on my website too."
>
> This service should make it more easy to catch the fake posters.
>
> Sam Sloan
It's not dependable just like any other IP locator. I just used it and
it says that I'm located in Dallas, Texas. I'm in the midwest but not
in Texas.
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| Anders Thulin 2005-08-04, 8:31 pm |
| Sam Sloan wrote:
quote:
> I am intrigued by the potential of
> http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
> for locating false posters.
Don't trust it over much. Doublecheck it against a competing service,
such as MaxMind GeoIP City.
GeoBytes says I am in Uppsala, Sweden -- which is off by 550 kilometers.
Don't know how they got that. Maxmind at least gets the city right.
--
Anders Thulin ath*algonet.se http://www.algonet.se/~ath
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| Goran Tomic 2005-08-04, 8:31 pm |
| "Sam Sloan" <sloan@ishipress.com> wrote in message
news:42f21810.167391000@ca.news.verio.net...
quote:
>I am intrigued by the potential of
> http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
> for locating false posters.
>
I'm not surprised about Mr. Brennen's behavior. He misrepresented himself as
chess historian and after some discussion on this list he confessed that he
is not chess historian in reality, but some people think that he is chess
historian and that's reason why he undersigned himself as chess historian
(because his violent, un-controllable behavior if somebody was wrong, some
people called him The Histerian).
Mr. Brennen very often used different nicknames and blasphemed all chess
players (he is very weak chess player) and chess journalists.
Because his behavior he expelled himself from chess world and serious
discussion on this newsgroup.
But, his patron, Mr. Kingston is not too far from Neil's behavior.
Regards,
Goran Tomic
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| Taylor Kingston 2005-08-04, 8:31 pm |
|
Sam Sloan wrote:
quote:
> I am intrigued by the potential of
> http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
> for locating false posters.
>
> For example, yesterday I was able to use this service to establish
> that Neil Brennen had posted a fake anonymous biography of me.
If that is so, then by the same logic Larry Parr, "Jr" and "Cynic"
are all the same person, as they generally show the same
NNTP-Posting-Host. Yet they insist otherwise, and apparently it is
possible for different people to show the same host ID if they all
happen to access the web through the same Netscape server, according to
a recent post by Liam Too.
So I'm not sure if the 68.84.120.191 host ID indicates Brennen or
just someone else logging on via Yahoo.
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| Sam Sloan 2005-08-04, 8:31 pm |
| On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:45:24 GMT, sloan@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan)
wrote:
quote:
>I am intrigued by the potential of
>http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
>for locating false posters.
>
>For example, yesterday I was able to use this service to establish
>that Neil Brennen had posted a fake anonymous biography of me.
>
>I moved my Internet service from Jamaica Queens to the Morris Heights
>Section of the Bronx on July 25-26, 2005.
>
>Since the move, my Verio postings have been from
>NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.45.216.80
>
>My last posting from Jamaica Queens was on July 25, 2005 at 4:05 AM
>under Re: What's Next for Chess HQ? where I wrote "Hanke wrote that
>right here".
>
>It was from
>NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.202.94.119
>
>My next posting was the following day from the Bronx:
>Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:12:26 GMT
>NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.45.216.80
>
>Under Subject: Re: Chess and Supreme Court I wrote "I will have to
>post this one on my website too."
>
>This service should make it more easy to catch the fake posters.
>
>Sam Sloan
In addition to trying to identify the fake posters who posted more
than one hundred fake messages under my name during the recent
election period, I would like to identify several fake posters who
inhabited this group in the past. Among them are:
Dr. Rev. Calvin Hindoo Qusz Jr.
SlamStoan
The Old Professor
Liam
The Dirty Vicar
The Masked Bishop
It has been widely suspected that the identies of some of them are Jim
Eade, Tim Hanke, Jerry Graham and possibly Bruce Draney, but this has
never been proven.
Sam Sloan
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| Liam Too 2005-08-04, 8:31 pm |
| Sam Sloan wrote:
quote:
> In addition to trying to identify the fake posters who posted more
> than one hundred fake messages under my name during the recent
> election period, I would like to identify several fake posters who
> inhabited this group in the past. Among them are:
>
> Dr. Rev. Calvin Hindoo Qusz Jr.
> SlamStoan
> The Old Professor
> Liam
> The Dirty Vicar
> The Masked Bishop
>
> It has been widely suspected that the identies of some of them are Jim
> Eade, Tim Hanke, Jerry Graham and possibly Bruce Draney, but this has
> never been proven.
>
> Sam Sloan
Sam,
I hope you know that Liam and Liam Too are two separate and distinct
persons. Liam is John Smith and Liam Too is Lance Smith.
Lance
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| Catalan 2005-08-04, 8:31 pm |
|
"Sam Sloan" <sloan@ishipress.com> wrote in message
news:42f27261.190512390@ca.news.verio.net...
quote:
> Dr. Rev. Calvin Hindoo Qusz Jr.
--Kevin Bachler
quote:
> The Dirty Vicar
--Frank Niro
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| The Historian 2005-08-04, 8:31 pm |
|
Sam Sloan wrote:
quote:
> I am intrigued by the potential of
> http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
> for locating false posters.
>
> For example, yesterday I was able to use this service to establish
> that Neil Brennen had posted a fake anonymous biography of me.
Where was this "fake anonymous" biography posted? And more importantly,
under what screen name? I've been using "The Historian" as a handle for
a few months now.
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| Sam Sloan 2005-08-05, 12:31 am |
| On 4 Aug 2005 15:56:03 -0700, "The Historian" <Spamscone@yahoo.com>
wrote:
quote:
>
>Sam Sloan wrote:
>
>Where was this "fake anonymous" biography posted? And more importantly,
>under what screen name? I've been using "The Historian" as a handle for
>a few months now.
Sure. You posted it right here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...&oldid=20103784
Note your ID 68.84.120.191
You did not use a screen name.
You then reposted what you wrote to this group under Re: Salamalaikum
from kalash velley Chitral and added the comment
"Did Sloan write this? It sounds like someone is mocking him."
All and all a typical sneaky and despicable act, so characteristic of
Neil Brennen.
Sam Sloan
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| The Historian 2005-08-05, 12:31 am |
|
Sam Sloan wrote:
quote:
> On 4 Aug 2005 15:56:03 -0700, "The Historian" <Spamscone@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Sure. You posted it right here:
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...&oldid=20103784
That is Wikipedia, a website that asks that people in the know correct
errors. The biographical entry had some errors, so I corrected them.
quote:
> Note your ID 68.84.120.191
>
> You did not use a screen name.
Since it's not a newsgroup, I don't see how I could have used a screen
name.
quote:
> You then reposted what you wrote to this group under Re: Salamalaikum
> from kalash velley Chitral and added the comment
>
> "Did Sloan write this? It sounds like someone is mocking him."
Yes, I wrote that.
quote:
> All and all a typical sneaky and despicable act, so characteristic of
> Neil Brennen.
So posting corrections to Wikipedia is "sneaky and despicable"?
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| Sam Sloan 2005-08-05, 12:31 am |
| On 4 Aug 2005 18:18:26 -0700, "The Historian" <Spamscone@yahoo.com>
wrote:
quote:
>
>Sam Sloan wrote:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...&oldid=20103784
>
>That is Wikipedia, a website that asks that people in the know correct
>errors. The biographical entry had some errors, so I corrected them.
>
>
>Since it's not a newsgroup, I don't see how I could have used a screen
>name.
Another lie. You can log in with a screen name and a password. You did
not do that. Instead, you posted anonymously. Fortunately, you did not
realize that there is a way to trace you back and identify you as the
poster.
quote:
>
>Yes, I wrote that.
>
>
>So posting corrections to Wikipedia is "sneaky and despicable"?
It certainly is. Your "corrections" were nothing more than the
personal attacks that you so often post here.
Fortunately, a site administrator of Wikipedia immediately recognized
your "corrections" for what they were and cancelled all of them.
Sam Sloan
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| The Historian 2005-08-05, 12:31 am |
|
Sam Sloan wrote:
quote:
> On 4 Aug 2005 18:18:26 -0700, "The Historian" <Spamscone@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Another lie. You can log in with a screen name and a password.
OK, I stand corrected. I didn't know you could register a screen name
with them.
You did
quote:
> not do that. Instead, you posted anonymously.
I did no such thing. I merely corrected the errors in the Wikipedia
entry.
Fortunately, you did not
quote:
> realize that there is a way to trace you back and identify you as the
> poster.
I made no attempt to hide my identity.
quote:
>
> It certainly is. Your "corrections" were nothing more than the
> personal attacks that you so often post here.
Do you deny you are a convicted felon, with a kidnapping conviction,
and have been barred from securities trading?
quote:
> Fortunately, a site administrator of Wikipedia immediately recognized
> your "corrections" for what they were and cancelled all of them.
>
> Sam Sloan
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| Goran Tomic 2005-08-05, 3:31 am |
| "Taylor Kingston" <tkingston@chittenden.com> wrote in message
news:1123181713.423452.138630@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quote:
>
> Sam Sloan wrote:
>
Mr. Sloan revealed that Mr. Brennen was false poster. Mr. Brennen (The
Histerian) confessed it. The question is: Would you still support Mr.
Brennen?
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| Jules77 2005-08-05, 8:32 pm |
| >This service should make it more easy to catch the fake posters.
quote:
>Sam Sloan
Nope, you can't trust it...
I just checked and it said I'm on Sudafed, when I actually use
Benadryl.
It did however state I'm an OLM which is correct, but it said my last
game was played in 2004, it was actually 1994.. Nope.. I would not
trust this site too much.
Nothing proved that I can see...
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| jamesrynd@aol.com 2005-08-05, 8:32 pm |
| Goran, you never fail to amuse in how you take the funny to be serious
and the serious to be funny. It is like a cyclic Platzwechsel in a
chess problem - Lord, that is always funny!
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| Goran Tomic 2005-08-05, 8:32 pm |
| "Jules77" <paul1959@mac.com> wrote in message
news:1123241229.805123.243160@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quote:
>
>
>
>
> Nope, you can't trust it...
>
Mr. Brennen confessed that he was that false poster.
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| Tom Klem 2005-08-05, 8:32 pm |
| You're welcome
"Sam Sloan" <sloan@ishipress.com> wrote in message
news:42f21810.167391000@ca.news.verio.net...
quote:
>I am intrigued by the potential of
> http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
> for locating false posters.
>
> For example, yesterday I was able to use this service to establish
> that Neil Brennen had posted a fake anonymous biography of me.
>
> I moved my Internet service from Jamaica Queens to the Morris Heights
> Section of the Bronx on July 25-26, 2005.
>
> Since the move, my Verio postings have been from
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.45.216.80
>
> My last posting from Jamaica Queens was on July 25, 2005 at 4:05 AM
> under Re: What's Next for Chess HQ? where I wrote "Hanke wrote that
> right here".
>
> It was from
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.202.94.119
>
> My next posting was the following day from the Bronx:
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:12:26 GMT
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.45.216.80
>
> Under Subject: Re: Chess and Supreme Court I wrote "I will have to
> post this one on my website too."
>
> This service should make it more easy to catch the fake posters.
>
> Sam Sloan
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| Sam Sloan 2005-08-24, 12:31 am |
| Could anybody provide a list of websites that can perform this
service??
Sam Sloan
On 4 Aug 2005 15:56:03 -0700, "The Historian" <Spamscone@yahoo.com>
wrote:
quote:
>
>Sam Sloan wrote:
>
>Where was this "fake anonymous" biography posted? And more importantly,
>under what screen name? I've been using "The Historian" as a handle for
>a few months now.
Sure. You posted it right here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...&oldid=20103784
Note your ID 68.84.120.191
You did not use a screen name.
You then reposted what you wrote to this group under Re: Salamalaikum
from kalash velley Chitral and added the comment
"Did Sloan write this? It sounds like someone is mocking him."
All and all a typical sneaky and despicable act, so characteristic of
Neil Brennen.
Sam Sloan
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| politikalhack@gmail.com 2005-08-24, 12:31 am |
| I think "semiliterate" is a low blow, and the other revisions fail to
achieve NPOV. (Even if Sloan lost *all* his other court cases, which I
frankly find hard to believe, it's not balanced to use that fact to
denigrate the stellar accomplishment of a pro se USSC victory.)
But these are matters of tone subject to editorial amendment. Writing
is a process. POV aside, don't Brennan's revisions, taken as a whole,
actually improve the accuracy of the article?
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| politikalhack@gmail.com 2005-08-24, 12:31 am |
| At least one factual error in Brennen's version: "except a felony" s/b
"except two felonies."
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| The Historian 2005-08-24, 12:31 am |
|
politikalhack@gmail.com wrote:
quote:
> I think "semiliterate" is a low blow,
I thought it an apt description of Sloan's 'I can READ!' prose style.
and the other revisions fail to
quote:
> achieve NPOV. (Even if Sloan lost *all* his other court cases, which I
> frankly find hard to believe,
Why is that hard to believe?
it's not balanced to use that fact to
quote:
> denigrate the stellar accomplishment of a pro se USSC victory.)
Comparisons to stopped clocks and blind squirrels come to mind.
quote:
> But these are matters of tone subject to editorial amendment. Writing
> is a process. POV aside, don't Brennan's (sic)
Brennen's
revisions, taken as a whole,
quote:
> actually improve the accuracy of the article?
Yes.
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| The Historian 2005-08-24, 12:31 am |
|
politikalhack@gmail.com wrote:
quote:
> At least one factual error in Brennen's version: "except a felony" s/b
> "except two felonies."
Thank you for the correction.
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| Catalan 2005-08-24, 3:31 am |
|
"Sam Sloan" <sloan@ishipress.com> wrote in message
news:430be00e.96130234@ca.news.verio.net...
quote:
>
> Could anybody provide a list of websites that can perform this
> service??
Everybody knows you can just do a Google search and come up with a gazillion
of them.
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| Catalan 2005-08-24, 3:31 am |
|
<politikalhack@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124852946.827305.299270@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
quote:
>I think "semiliterate" is a low blow, and the other revisions fail to
> achieve NPOV. (Even if Sloan lost *all* his other court cases, which I
> frankly find hard to believe, it's not balanced to use that fact to
> denigrate the stellar accomplishment of a pro se USSC victory.)
Everybody knows that of all his filings he has only won one case.
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| Chess One 2005-08-24, 8:32 pm |
| > Sure. You posted it right here:
quote:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...&oldid=20103784
>
> Note your ID 68.84.120.191
>
> You did not use a screen name.
>
> You then reposted what you wrote to this group under Re: Salamalaikum
> from kalash velley Chitral and added the comment
>
> "Did Sloan write this? It sounds like someone is mocking him."
>
> All and all a typical sneaky and despicable act, so characteristic of
> Neil Brennen.
He posts trash about people then accuses them of writing it about
themselves. Phil Innes
quote:
> Sam Sloan
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| parrthenon@cs.com 2005-08-25, 12:31 am |
| A SERIOUS ACCUSATION
quote:
>He posts trash about people then accuses them of writing it about themselves.>
Phil Innes
Dear Phil,
You are making a very serious accusation against Neil Brennen.
To wit: you are saying that he posted trash that some might
think came from Sam Sloan and then returned in his actual person to ask
whether the stuff came from Mr. Sloan.
Frankly, that goes beyond sneaky; it puts a person beyond the pale.
If your charge is true, then other little shrouded mysteries around
here may begin to lift. The issue is whether your charge is true.
I await Mr. Brennen's response and, perhaps we both hope, his
outright denial.
One doesn't want to think that kind of slime is true about someone
who, after all, entertains many of the same interests and concerns as
we do.
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| The Historian 2005-08-25, 12:31 am |
|
parrthenon@cs.com wrote:
quote:
> A SERIOUS ACCUSATION
>
> Phil Innes
>
>
> Dear Phil,
>
> You are making a very serious accusation against Neil Brennen.
>
> To wit: you are saying that he posted trash that some might
> think came from Sam Sloan and then returned in his actual person to ask
> whether the stuff came from Mr. Sloan.
>
> Frankly, that goes beyond sneaky; it puts a person beyond the pale.
>
> If your charge is true, then other little shrouded mysteries around
> here may begin to lift. The issue is whether your charge is true.
>
> I await Mr. Brennen's response and, perhaps we both hope, his
> outright denial.
Larry, I've gotten used to Philth Innes manufacturing all kinds of
trash about me. This latest is just another junker coming off his
Brattleboro assembly line. It deserves as much contempt as all the
others before it.
Since Philth will no doubt rant the above is not an answer to you, here
it is again, worded a little more directly: I did not do what you
interpret Innes as claiming I did.
quote:
> One doesn't want to think that kind of slime is true about someone
> who, after all, entertains many of the same interests and concerns as
> we do.
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| The Historian 2005-08-25, 8:32 pm |
|
Chess One wrote:
quote:
>
> He posts trash about people then accuses them of writing it about
> themselves. Phil Innes
Example?
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| Goran Tomic 2005-08-25, 8:32 pm |
| "The Histerian" <Spamscone@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1124969226.747632.310220@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
quote:
>
> Chess One wrote:
>
> Example?
>
False posts about chess players using false nickname. they named you Vandal.
You already forgot it?
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