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> Now that Goichberg is back on the Board and likely to become the
> next president, what's next for good old Chess HQ?
> My guess would be that da Goich will engineer a move back to the
> NY/NJ area sooner or later. I'd also guess USCF dues might go down a
> tad. Goichberg recently wrote that he thought they were a bit to high,
> enough to have negatively impacted adult membership the past few years.
>
> Other than that, I don't think much will happen. There simply isn't
> much to work with in the chess federation, even with a really good
> Board on hand.
>

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>When does the new EB start working ? And who finally qualified to the new EB
>except Bill Goichberg ?

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> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:09:42 +0200, "Jerzy" <jciruk@poczta.fm> wrote:
>
>
> The USCF Delegates' meeting will take place on August 13-14, 2005 in
> Phoenix, Arizona. The meeting should conclude by about 3:00 PM on that
> day and at that moment in time the new board will take over.
>
> Typically, the new board will hold its first meeting later that
> afternoon or the following morning.
>
> The big question this year concerns the fact that Beatriz Marinello is
> scheduled to preside over the August 13-14 meeting and Tim Hanke is
> scheduled to present a report on USCF finances. Those who know them
> suspect that neither Marinello nor Hanke will attend the meetings in
> Phoenix. Shaughnessy and Bauer will probably not attend either. Shutt
> always attends these meetings so he will be there. George John has
> indicated that he will come.
>
> The question now is whether Beatriz will resign or serve out her term.
> If she resigns before or during the delegates meetings, what happens
> then? Nobody seems to be sure.
>
> If Beatriz and Hanke do not attend the meeting, it will fall on Steve
> Shutt to chair the meeting. I am certain that Shutt will be willing to
> do this.
>
> Sam Sloan

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> Now that Goichberg is back on the Board and likely to become the
> next president, what's next for good old Chess HQ?
> My guess would be that da Goich will engineer a move back to the
> NY/NJ area sooner or later. I'd also guess USCF dues might go down a
> tad. Goichberg recently wrote that he thought they were a bit to high,
> enough to have negatively impacted adult membership the past few years.
>
> Other than that, I don't think much will happen. There simply isn't
> much to work with in the chess federation, even with a really good
> Board on hand.
>
> Old Haasie
>

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> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:09:42 +0200, "Jerzy" <jciruk@poczta.fm> wrote:
>
>
> The USCF Delegates' meeting will take place on August 13-14, 2005 in
> Phoenix, Arizona. The meeting should conclude by about 3:00 PM on that
> day and at that moment in time the new board will take over.
>
> Typically, the new board will hold its first meeting later that
> afternoon or the following morning.
>
> The big question this year concerns the fact that Beatriz Marinello is
> scheduled to preside over the August 13-14 meeting and Tim Hanke is
> scheduled to present a report on USCF finances. Those who know them
> suspect that neither Marinello nor Hanke will attend the meetings in
> Phoenix. Shaughnessy and Bauer will probably not attend either. Shutt
> always attends these meetings so he will be there. George John has
> indicated that he will come.
>
> The question now is whether Beatriz will resign or serve out her term.
> If she resigns before or during the delegates meetings, what happens
> then? Nobody seems to be sure.
>
> If Beatriz and Hanke do not attend the meeting, it will fall on Steve
> Shutt to chair the meeting. I am certain that Shutt will be willing to
> do this.
>
> Sam Sloan

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>
> The USCF Delegates' meeting will take place on August 13-14, 2005 in
> Phoenix, Arizona. The meeting should conclude by about 3:00 PM on that
> day and at that moment in time the new board will take over.
>
> Typically, the new board will hold its first meeting later that
> afternoon or the following morning.
>

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>
>
>OK Sam and who has been finally elected to the EB ?

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>
> Goichberg, Channing, Tanner and Shahade were elected. Schultz, Hanke
> and Marinello have unexpired terms.
>
> It seems fairly certain that Hanke and Marinello will not be given any
> committee assignments, Whether they will be willing to continue as
> back benchers is not yet known.

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>
>
>OK Sam and in this case who will replace them ? Another election will be
>needed ?

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> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 21:27:59 +0200, "Jerzy" <jciruk@poczta.fm> wrote:
>

I support giving all Board members committee assignments, assuming they
have the time to work with the committees involved. The time for
politics is over and we must try to work together.

Also, some of the candidates that were not elected would make good
committee chairs. In particular, I would support Randy Bauer for chair
of the Finance Committee if he is interested.

Bill Goichberg


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>
> If Marinello and Hanke resign after the meeting, then a new election
> will have to be held next year.
>
> If Marinello and Hanke resign before or during the meeting I believe
> that the delegates can elect somebody in their place, but I am not
> certain of this.
>
> John McCrary did a great dis-service to the USCF when he resigned
> immediately after the conclusion of the delegates meeting in 2003. It
> was this that led to the election of Shaughnessy and Bauer and all the
> trouble they caused in 2004. I would hope that if Hanke and Marinello
> are going to resign they would do so before the Delegates Meeting on
> August 13-14. It would be the decent thing to do, which would make it
> a new experience for them.
>
> Sam Sloan

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>
>

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>
>Bill,
>
>I agree. I truly hope Randy will accept the assignment if it is
>offered to him. In fact, if either Hanke or Marinello are not selected
>for the VP of Finance position, it may be essential, IMO.

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>
>I also hope we will NOT see a repeat of 2001 with the resignation of
>two board members unless there is a compelling reason such as health.
>The reason for the 4-3 system is to have continuity on the board. We
>have already just lost 4/7 (over half) of the experience of the Board.
>We don't want to raise that number to 5/7 or 6/7! Furthermore, half of
>the new Board members have no experience, SFAIK, at the state or
>national level in USCF governance.
>
>Best regards,
>
>George

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> On 24 Jul 2005 14:30:19 -0700, "George John" <george@neosoft.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> I can absolutely guarantee you that neither Hanke nor Marinello will
> be given the position of VP of Finance.

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> The Chairman of the Finance Committee will probably be Ken Thomas. In
> view of the new rule that no person can serve on both the finance
> committee and the audit commottee, Randy Bauer can probably be
> Chairman of the Audit Committee if he wants it.

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>
> Tim Hanke has said in the past that he is not willing to serve on the
> board unless he is in a position of decision making authority. Since
> Hanke will most definately not be given a position of decision making
> authority, I suspect that he will probably resign and he has not been
> heard from since February in any event.
>
> Sam Sloan

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>Sam Sloan wrote:

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>
>1. Where did Hanke say that?

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>2. How could YOU possibly know that he will not be given a position of
>decision-making authority?

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>3. Why would his absence from this particular circus indicate AT ALL
>that he's going to resign?

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>
>Just another case of Sloan blowing smoke.

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> On 24 Jul 2005 18:40:38 -0700, "Gambit" <nospam@interservicechess.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hanke wrote that right here, on rec.games.chess.politics, in 2003,
> right after he had been elected. He had run as a joke and was
> surprised to be elected and was trying to decide whether to take
> office.
>
>
> The voters have just decided by a 2-1 margin not to give Hanke any
> decision making authority.

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>He has not only been absent here, he has not attended meetings of the
>Board not even by conference telephone. Nobody seems to know where he
>is since February.

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>
>
> Who are you? Are you Tim Hanke?
>
> Sam Sloan

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> Its that XXXXing Sam again rumbling on about politics.
>
> Who cares.

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> Goichberg, Channing, Tanner and Shahade were elected. Schultz, Hanke
> and Marinello have unexpired terms.
>
> It seems fairly certain that Hanke and Marinello will not be given any
> committee assignments, Whether they will be willing to continue as
> back benchers is not yet known.
>
> Sam Sloan

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>
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 21:27:59 +0200, "Jerzy" <jciruk@poczta.fm> wrote:
>
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>
> If Marinello and Hanke resign after the meeting, then a new election
> will have to be held next year.
>
> If Marinello and Hanke resign before or during the meeting I believe
> that the delegates can elect somebody in their place

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> August 13-14. It would be the decent thing to do, which would make it
> a new experience for them.
>
> Sam Sloan

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>
> Bill,
>
> I agree. I truly hope Randy will accept the assignment if it is
> offered to him. In fact,