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Executive Board election results
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| recmate@aol.com 2005-07-22, 12:31 am |
| With Region 1 completely counted and the Chess Life ballots counted for
Regions 2, 3 and 4, Bill Goichberg, Greg Shahade, Joel Channing and
Robert Tanner have jumped out to a substantial lead. For details, see
www.checkmate.us.
Bill Goichberg
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| Matt Nemmers 2005-07-22, 12:31 am |
| recmate@aol.com wrote:
quote:
> With Region 1 completely counted and the Chess Life ballots counted for
> Regions 2, 3 and 4, Bill Goichberg, Greg Shahade, Joel Channing and
> Robert Tanner have jumped out to a substantial lead. For details, see
> www.checkmate.us.
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> Bill Goichberg
I suspect that the further we move towards the Pacific the "Dream
Team's" lead will start to fade dramatically.
Regards,
Matt
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| Duncan Oxley 2005-07-22, 3:31 am |
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<recmate@aol.com> wrote:
quote:
> With Region 1 completely counted and the Chess Life ballots counted for
> Regions 2, 3 and 4, Bill Goichberg, Greg Shahade, Joel Channing and
> Robert Tanner have jumped out to a substantial lead. For details, see
> www.checkmate.us.
>
> Bill Goichberg
>
I just sincerely hope you and all elected will try to serve in as
non-partisan
capacity as much as possible.
Members like I and my friends don't give a rats behind who want's to claim
credit for this or that. We do want to see the changes begun by Marinello,
Hanke, the rest of that board and yes, you too Bill, continue. I'm sure
there is
enough credit for everyone.
Too much to ask for though? I'm a dreamer I guess.
My fear is the new board will become bogged down with infighting to the
point
of paralysis.
Duncan
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| politikalhack@gmail.com 2005-07-22, 3:31 am |
| Congratulations!
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| Catalan 2005-07-22, 3:31 am |
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"Matt Nemmers" <qcchess@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:1122002169.875936.169470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> recmate@aol.com wrote:
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> I suspect that the further we move towards the Pacific the "Dream
> Team's" lead will start to fade dramatically.
Maybe, maybe not. Bill managed to get his cronies appointed as the ballot
counters.
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| George John 2005-07-22, 3:31 am |
| I have posted a Web version of an Excel spreadsheet I'm using to track
the results at
http://georgejohn.bcentralhost.com/...ess/Results.htm
These results are partial and unofficial. I will update this page as
more results are posted or e-mailed to me.
Although duplicate ballots, and the fact that not all ballots will have
four votes will certainly lower the count, there will be potentially
(very roughly speaking) as many as 23,200 or so votes from as many as
5800 ballots.
Currently, there are 5442 votes recorded. Using the 23,200 figure,
this is less than 24% of the total potential vote. So, there are a lot
more votes to count. Of course, if these trends continue, the "Dream
Team" will win in a landslide. Furthermore, this lead may be
sufficient to prevent anyone from coming from behind to win. If true,
I will be particularly disappointed if Randy Bauer does not win. He is
precisely the type of person I think we need on the USCF Executive
Board.
Best regards,
George John
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| Jürgen R. 2005-07-22, 3:31 am |
| On 21 Jul 2005 20:00:14 -0700, recmate@aol.com wrote:
quote:
>With Region 1 completely counted and the Chess Life ballots counted for
>Regions 2, 3 and 4, Bill Goichberg, Greg Shahade, Joel Channing and
>Robert Tanner have jumped out to a substantial lead. For details, see
>www.checkmate.us.
>
>Bill Goichberg
Looks like you won't have that pompous XXX, Randy Bauer, to kick
around any more.
And it looks like that it pays to be neither an incumbent nor a Sam
Sloan.
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| chesswarrior 2005-07-24, 1:14 am |
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Catalan wrote:
quote:
> "Matt Nemmers" <qcchess@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:1122002169.875936.169470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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> Maybe, maybe not. Bill managed to get his cronies appointed as the ballot
> counters.
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| chesswarrior 2005-07-24, 1:14 am |
| how do you know that ??? do you have their names, were you there ????
can you prove what you say ???
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| Catalan 2005-07-24, 1:14 am |
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"chesswarrior" <CHESSWARRIOR@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message
news:1122031906.791178.163150@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> how do you know that ??? do you have their names, were you there ????
> can you prove what you say ???
I know this: Among the vote counters is Bill's former "CFO" and bookcooker,
Ken Thomas, and numerous former employees who would love to see the USCF
return from whence it came.
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| recmate@aol.com 2005-07-24, 1:14 am |
| EXECUTIVE BOARD ELECTION
The count is now complete in Regions 1 through 4, Region 10, and
non-region (PR, APO/FPO). For details see www.checkmate.us.
The "success team" scored its first victory by doing well in Region 10
(TX, OK, NM), home of "success" candidate George John. However, this
didn't make much of a dent in the overall totals.
Results in Region 10: John 250, Bauer 242, Shaughnessy 234, Goichberg
205, Shutt 200, Shahade 187, Channing 183, Tanner 152, Sloan 78.
Totals after five regions plus non-region votes: Goichberg 2061,
Shahade 1929, Channing 1745, Tanner 1573, Shaughnessy 845, Bauer 811,
Shutt 679, John 612, Sloan 576.
Bill Goichberg
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| samsloan 2005-07-24, 3:51 am |
| This is misleading. George John has finished dead last in every
election district counted thus far, except for Texas, wherew he lives.
George John carried his home state of Texas but his margin of victory
was only good enough to get him barely out of last place.
Sam Sloan
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| Sam Sloan 2005-07-24, 3:51 am |
| On 21 Jul 2005 22:35:22 -0700, "George John" <george@neosoft.com>
wrote:
quote:
>I have posted a Web version of an Excel spreadsheet I'm using to track
>the results at
>http://georgejohn.bcentralhost.com/...ess/Results.htm
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>These results are partial and unofficial. I will update this page as
>more results are posted or e-mailed to me.
>
>Although duplicate ballots, and the fact that not all ballots will have
>four votes will certainly lower the count, there will be potentially
>(very roughly speaking) as many as 23,200 or so votes from as many as
>5800 ballots.
>
>Currently, there are 5442 votes recorded. Using the 23,200 figure,
>this is less than 24% of the total potential vote. So, there are a lot
>more votes to count. Of course, if these trends continue, the "Dream
>Team" will win in a landslide. Furthermore, this lead may be
>sufficient to prevent anyone from coming from behind to win. If true,
>I will be particularly disappointed if Randy Bauer does not win. He is
>precisely the type of person I think we need on the USCF Executive
>Board.
>
>Best regards,
>
>George John
Randy Bauer is not going to win. Bauer even lost badly in his home
state of Minnesota.
Sam Sloan
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| Sam Sloan 2005-07-24, 3:51 am |
| On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:00:22 -0700, "Duncan Oxley" <no@thanks> wrote:
quote:
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><recmate@aol.com> wrote:
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>I just sincerely hope you and all elected will try to serve in as
>non-partisan
>capacity as much as possible.
>
>Members like I and my friends don't give a rats behind who want's to claim
>credit for this or that. We do want to see the changes begun by Marinello,
>Hanke, the rest of that board and yes, you too Bill, continue. I'm sure
>there is
>enough credit for everyone.
>
>Too much to ask for though? I'm a dreamer I guess.
>
>My fear is the new board will become bogged down with infighting to the
>point
>of paralysis.
>
>Duncan
Sorry to disappoint you, but the new board has already virtually
decided not to build a new building in Crossville Tennessee.
Even though the old board is not even completely dead and their bodies
not yet cold in the ground.
SAm Sloan
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| Sam Sloan 2005-07-24, 3:51 am |
| On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:11:02 -0400, "Catalan" <Catalan@comXXXcast.net>
wrote:
quote:
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>"chesswarrior" <CHESSWARRIOR@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message
>news:1122031906.791178.163150@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
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>I know this: Among the vote counters is Bill's former "CFO" and bookcooker,
>Ken Thomas, and numerous former employees who would love to see the USCF
>return from whence it came.
You are welcome to come up and contest the count.
Beatriz however has already given up and left.
Sam Sloan
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| Catalan 2005-07-24, 3:51 am |
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"samsloan" <sloan@ishipress.com> wrote in message
news:1122067517.091751.19700@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> George John carried his home state of Texas but his margin of victory
> was only good enough to get him barely out of last place.
Who was last place?
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| bsanders0001@hotmail.com 2005-07-24, 3:51 am |
| since it is OMOV what is the purpose of tallying by regions?
thankyou
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| Sam Sloan 2005-07-24, 3:51 am |
| On 22 Jul 2005 16:58:04 -0700, "bsanders0001@hotmail.com"
<bsanders0001@hotmail.com> wrote:
quote:
>since it is OMOV what is the purpose of tallying by regions?
>thankyou
>
To deter voter fraud and to find out where the votes come from.
For example, in this election, the results have been skewered by the
big Texas vote. Traditionally, Texas and Northern California have
voted as a bloc. For years, it was the bloc votes from Texas and
Northern California that stopped OMOV from being enacted.
Had Northern California voted like Texas did, the Success Team might
have won, even though the other 48 states were all against them.
Regional voting helps identify these problems.
Sam Sloan
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| recmate@aol.com 2005-07-24, 3:51 am |
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bsanders0001@hotmail.com wrote:
quote:
> since it is OMOV what is the purpose of tallying by regions?
> thankyou
Why would tallying by regions be less appropriate under OMOV than the
old system? In government elections, breakdowns by county and even
precinct are common. People are interested in how their area has voted.
Bill Goichberg
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| George John 2005-07-24, 7:08 am |
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David Kane wrote:
David,
[SNIP]
quote:
> The disappointment should not be in Bauer's defeat,
> but that instead of applying his talents to grow
> American chess, he squandered his tenure on the trivial.
Randy was only given a year to apply his talents, and it came during a
period in the USCF's history where it was fighting just to survive.
Hopefully, the crisis is past, and will not be revisited. I find it a
pity that such a well-rounded candidate, with exceptional key skills
was not given a chance at a four year term to see what he could do.
[SNIP]
quote:
> Grow chess or fail.
While I both hope and think chess can grow, possibly a lot, I have no
problem with the organization continuing at its current levels if it's
sustainable, and that's truly the best we can do. Trying to grow an
organization when the market won't support it would be a mistake. And,
that's where I think the USCF would benefit from some professional
(preferably volunteer) marketing and surveying expertise to better
learn where we stand, and what's possible.
Best regards,
George
Best regards,
George
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| Randy Bauer 2005-07-24, 7:08 am |
| In article <hbSdnRTjZYwV9n_fRVn-oA@comcast.com>, David Kane says...
quote:
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>"George John" <george@neosoft.com> wrote in message
>news:1122010522.910406.322220@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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> Furthermore, this lead may be
>true,
>is
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>The disappointment should not be in Bauer's defeat,
>but that instead of applying his talents to grow
>American chess, he squandered his tenure on the trivial.
It's hard for me to believe that anybody, in a year's time, can "squander" a
tenure. Mine (and Elizeth's) was purely a stop gap appointment, and I know in
my heart of hearts that the USCF is in a better place financially as I leave
than when I became an Executive Board member. Expecting anything else with a 1
year "tenure" is a flight of fancy. There is a reason that most terms of
elected officials are for longer than that period of time.
quote:
>Let us hope that we are not reaching the same assessment
>for the newly elected a few years from now.
>Grow chess or fail.
The budget is balanced, we are going to have another year of surplus. We have
hired a promising young executive director, and membership numbers are better
now than a year ago. I hope for as much from the in-coming Board.
Randy Bauer
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| Duncan Oxley 2005-07-24, 7:08 am |
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quote:
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> bsanders0001@hotmail.com wrote:
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>recmate@aol.com wrote:
> Why would tallying by regions be less appropriate under OMOV than the
> old system? In government elections, breakdowns by county and even
> precinct are common. People are interested in how their area has voted.
>
> Bill Goichberg
>
It will also be useful for next years campaign to save money and target
more effectively.
Duncan
PS Congratulations Bill. I wish you the best of luck, and again, hope you
will try to keep on the path the previous two boards have set us on.
Remember: if you change course in mid-stream you can't blame it on the
last board if there is _______ <fill in blank> (big grin) ... Seriously,
good luck!
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| parrthenon@cs.com 2005-07-24, 8:38 pm |
| MORE HAPPY TALK
quote:
>The budget is balanced, we are going to have another year of surplus. We have hired a promising young executive director, and membership numbers are better now than a year ago. I hope for as much from the in-coming Board.> Randy Bauer
How refreshing were we now to learn the role played by the new director
in the Natrol decision -- not to fire the guy but simply to have full
disclosure. I, for one, am prepared to call the matter closed once
there is such disclosure. It would signal a change for the better.
How refreshing were we now to learn the fate of the $5,000 paid by
Natrol and whether Beatriz got any compensation for her endorsement of
this product.
SECRET TALKS TO RETURN LAND
As I reported many weeks ago, there were discussions about
getting rid of the land. At first this was pooh-poohed by the likes of
Randy Bauer. Then the denials stopped and my reports were met with
blank silence by a secretive board.
quote:
>There are plenty of vacant buildings in downtown Crossville that appear to be suitable for office space. The recent growth in Crossville appears to be in the area of the vacant land. Even considering the $40,000 architects bill, your idea to trade the la
nd for an existing building might be worth considering. Any review of the alternatives should be done rather quickly due to the time lines already in place.> ex-CFO Grant Perks
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