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Innes goes round the bend
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| Taylor Kingston 2005-03-26, 5:53 pm |
| Chess One wrote:
quote:
> I'm not a fop.
Having met Mr. Innes once, and noticing on that occasion no
flamboyant dress or other foppish trappings, I must say that the
evidence available to me supports this particular claim. However, much
else in his post merits contradiction. I will confine my comments to
matters which involve me personally.
quote:
For God's sake, what utter nonsense! "Sole-sourced"? What is that
supposed to mean? You are saying that all ChessCafe material on Russian
chess players originates with the KGB? Absurd, as is obvious to anyone
even slightly familiar with the site. You may as well say that Hanon
Russell's interview with Reshevsky "sole-sourced" Orthodox Judaism,
that Hans Ree's column "sole-sources" covert Dutch interests, that
Irishman Tim Harding "sole-sources" the Sinn Fein, that articles about
Lasker "sole-source" German imperialism.
[vbcol=seagreen]
> I'm not!
Then please tell us, who is your source for your so far unsupported
claim that Yuri Averbakh was a member of the KGB? Goran Tomic, who
believes that "masked communists rule the world"? (What style of mask,
one wonders: Lone Ranger? Batman? Mexican wrestler?) Sam Sloan, avatar
of accuracy, heir to the mantle of Edward R. Murrow? Tomic offered no
proof, only a "probably." Sloan offered no evidence, only a hunch.
quote:
> And why are you changing the subject from Taylor Kingston's article
sourcing
quote:
> the KGB?
And please tell us, what article is this? If you refer to my
interview with Yuri Averbakh, you have little or no point unless you:
A) prove that Averbakh was/is in the KGB,
B) demonstrate that the interview somehow served nefarious KGB
interests, instead of merely discussing chess history,
C) explain how the KGB, an organ of the Soviet state, is still
operating 15 years after the USSR's dissolution.
And frankly, I don't care a rat's rump if Averbakh was in the KGB. So
what? He's still worth interviewing. You'd jump at the chance to
interview him for Chessville.com, and you know it.
How about Genna Sosonko? Will you denounce him for interviewing
Viktor Baturinsky, a KNOWN tool of Soviet oppression, in "The Reliable
Past"? What about Bernard Cafferty of the BCM, who translated alleged
KGB favorite Kotov's "Think Like a Grandmaster"? Or Larry Evans, who
interviewed Eduard Gufeld for Chess Life? Were they "sole-sourcing"
nefarious communist mouthpieces?
And if it's so clear to you that it was obviously wrong of me to
interview Averbakh, which I did in 2002, why did you, Phil, interview
me in 2004? Who's "sole-sourcing" whom here?
Phil, you seem seriously to be going off the deep end here -- and I
mean off the high board into an empty pool. It's making a very ugly
sound.
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| Chess One 2005-03-26, 5:53 pm |
| If Taylor Kingston wants to piously assure his friend, an obsessive defamer,
who can't sign his own names to posts, to some personal detail concerning
myself, then he has chosen his own companions with as much care as he
supposes what I would or would not care to put in print.
This absurd half-mocking, half serious [his half] level of inquiry citing
among other factors, Batman and Sinn Fein, is his means to explore a subject
by rhetorical means, to which I have already indicated is not my own.
According to Taylor Kingston's crystal ball, I would 'jump' at the chance to
interview Averbakh, and also 'jump' into an empty pool. How apt if
unintended a comparison!
Phil Innes
"Taylor Kingston" <tkingston@chittenden.com> wrote in message
news:1111855591.281625.298760@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> Chess One wrote:
>
> Having met Mr. Innes once, and noticing on that occasion no
> flamboyant dress or other foppish trappings, I must say that the
> evidence available to me supports this particular claim. However, much
> else in his post merits contradiction. I will confine my comments to
> matters which involve me personally.
>
>
> For God's sake, what utter nonsense! "Sole-sourced"? What is that
> supposed to mean? You are saying that all ChessCafe material on Russian
> chess players originates with the KGB? Absurd, as is obvious to anyone
> even slightly familiar with the site. You may as well say that Hanon
> Russell's interview with Reshevsky "sole-sourced" Orthodox Judaism,
> that Hans Ree's column "sole-sources" covert Dutch interests, that
> Irishman Tim Harding "sole-sources" the Sinn Fein, that articles about
> Lasker "sole-source" German imperialism.
>
>
> Then please tell us, who is your source for your so far unsupported
> claim that Yuri Averbakh was a member of the KGB? Goran Tomic, who
> believes that "masked communists rule the world"? (What style of mask,
> one wonders: Lone Ranger? Batman? Mexican wrestler?) Sam Sloan, avatar
> of accuracy, heir to the mantle of Edward R. Murrow? Tomic offered no
> proof, only a "probably." Sloan offered no evidence, only a hunch.
>
> sourcing
>
> And please tell us, what article is this? If you refer to my
> interview with Yuri Averbakh, you have little or no point unless you:
> A) prove that Averbakh was/is in the KGB,
> B) demonstrate that the interview somehow served nefarious KGB
> interests, instead of merely discussing chess history,
> C) explain how the KGB, an organ of the Soviet state, is still
> operating 15 years after the USSR's dissolution.
>
> And frankly, I don't care a rat's rump if Averbakh was in the KGB. So
> what? He's still worth interviewing. You'd jump at the chance to
> interview him for Chessville.com, and you know it.
> How about Genna Sosonko? Will you denounce him for interviewing
> Viktor Baturinsky, a KNOWN tool of Soviet oppression, in "The Reliable
> Past"? What about Bernard Cafferty of the BCM, who translated alleged
> KGB favorite Kotov's "Think Like a Grandmaster"? Or Larry Evans, who
> interviewed Eduard Gufeld for Chess Life? Were they "sole-sourcing"
> nefarious communist mouthpieces?
> And if it's so clear to you that it was obviously wrong of me to
> interview Averbakh, which I did in 2002, why did you, Phil, interview
> me in 2004? Who's "sole-sourcing" whom here?
>
> Phil, you seem seriously to be going off the deep end here -- and I
> mean off the high board into an empty pool. It's making a very ugly
> sound.
>
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| Taylor Kingston 2005-03-26, 5:53 pm |
|
Chess One wrote:
quote:
> If Taylor Kingston wants to piously assure his friend, an obsessive
defamer,
quote:
> who can't sign his own names to posts, to some personal detail
concerning
quote:
> myself, then he has chosen his own companions with as much care as he
quote:
> supposes what I would or would not care to put in print.
>
> This absurd half-mocking, half serious [his half] level of inquiry
citing
quote:
> among other factors, Batman and Sinn Fein, is his means to explore a
subject
quote:
> by rhetorical means, to which I have already indicated is not my own.
>
> According to Taylor Kingston's crystal ball, I would 'jump' at the
chance to
quote:
> interview Averbakh, and also 'jump' into an empty pool. How apt if
> unintended a comparison!
>
> Phil Innes
Notice how Phil fails to answer any of my questions or provide any
proof of his earlier allegations. Shakespeare's quote about "sound and
fury" comes to mind.
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| Chess One 2005-03-26, 5:53 pm |
| Mr. Taylor Kingston is noticing that I do not answer his Batman and Sinn
Fein analogies concerning Russian political history and chess, and doesn't
understand the rest of my response either. Perhaps his friends will now
support this standard of 'mock-history' and all agree that no answer to
trash talk is equivalent to having nothing to say?
Phil Innes
"Taylor Kingston" <tkingston@chittenden.com> wrote in message
news:1111865897.566469.282690@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quote:
>
> Chess One wrote:
> defamer,
> concerning
>
> citing
> subject
> chance to
>
> Notice how Phil fails to answer any of my questions or provide any
> proof of his earlier allegations. Shakespeare's quote about "sound and
> fury" comes to mind.
>
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"Chess One" <innes8@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:4yj1e.21888$Ue6.7158@trndny04...
quote:
> Perhaps his friends will now support this standard of 'mock-history' and
> all agree that no answer to trash talk is equivalent to having nothing to
> say?
If his friends include Larry Parr they most certainly wilt.
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"Taylor Kingston" <tkingston@chittenden.com> wrote in message
news:1111871046.161992.65620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> Notice how Phil Innes still fails to provide the least factual
> support for any of his KGB-related allegations, and fails to answer any
> questions.
There is a vicious rumour circulating that Larry Parr and Phil Innes are one
and the same. Note that they both have nine letters in their names. Number
nine, no. 9, #9! Play the Beatles 33RPM version backwards if you don't
believe me.
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"Chess One" <innes8@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:4yj1e.21888$Ue6.7158@trndny04...
quote:
> Perhaps his friends will now support this standard of 'mock-history' and
> all agree that no answer to trash talk is equivalent to having nothing to
> say?
If his friends include Larry Parr they most certainly wilt.
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| Taylor Kingston 2005-03-30, 7:21 pm |
|
Chess One wrote:
quote:
> Mr. Taylor Kingston is noticing that I do not answer his Batman and
Sinn
quote:
> Fein analogies concerning Russian political history and chess, and
doesn't
quote:
> understand the rest of my response either. Perhaps his friends will
now
quote:
> support this standard of 'mock-history' and all agree that no answer
to
quote:
> trash talk is equivalent to having nothing to say?
Notice how Phil Innes still fails to provide the least factual
support for any of his KGB-related allegations, and fails to answer any
questions.
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| Chess One 2005-03-30, 7:21 pm |
| Mr. Taylor Kingston is noticing that I do not answer his Batman and Sinn
Fein analogies concerning Russian political history and chess, and doesn't
understand the rest of my response either. Perhaps his friends will now
support this standard of 'mock-history' and all agree that no answer to
trash talk is equivalent to having nothing to say?
Phil Innes
"Taylor Kingston" <tkingston@chittenden.com> wrote in message
news:1111865897.566469.282690@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quote:
>
> Chess One wrote:
> defamer,
> concerning
>
> citing
> subject
> chance to
>
> Notice how Phil fails to answer any of my questions or provide any
> proof of his earlier allegations. Shakespeare's quote about "sound and
> fury" comes to mind.
>
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| Chess One 2005-03-31, 3:59 am |
| If Taylor Kingston wants to piously assure his friend, an obsessive defamer,
who can't sign his own names to posts, to some personal detail concerning
myself, then he has chosen his own companions with as much care as he
supposes what I would or would not care to put in print.
This absurd half-mocking, half serious [his half] level of inquiry citing
among other factors, Batman and Sinn Fein, is his means to explore a subject
by rhetorical means, to which I have already indicated is not my own.
According to Taylor Kingston's crystal ball, I would 'jump' at the chance to
interview Averbakh, and also 'jump' into an empty pool. How apt if
unintended a comparison!
Phil Innes
"Taylor Kingston" <tkingston@chittenden.com> wrote in message
news:1111855591.281625.298760@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> Chess One wrote:
>
> Having met Mr. Innes once, and noticing on that occasion no
> flamboyant dress or other foppish trappings, I must say that the
> evidence available to me supports this particular claim. However, much
> else in his post merits contradiction. I will confine my comments to
> matters which involve me personally.
>
>
> For God's sake, what utter nonsense! "Sole-sourced"? What is that
> supposed to mean? You are saying that all ChessCafe material on Russian
> chess players originates with the KGB? Absurd, as is obvious to anyone
> even slightly familiar with the site. You may as well say that Hanon
> Russell's interview with Reshevsky "sole-sourced" Orthodox Judaism,
> that Hans Ree's column "sole-sources" covert Dutch interests, that
> Irishman Tim Harding "sole-sources" the Sinn Fein, that articles about
> Lasker "sole-source" German imperialism.
>
>
> Then please tell us, who is your source for your so far unsupported
> claim that Yuri Averbakh was a member of the KGB? Goran Tomic, who
> believes that "masked communists rule the world"? (What style of mask,
> one wonders: Lone Ranger? Batman? Mexican wrestler?) Sam Sloan, avatar
> of accuracy, heir to the mantle of Edward R. Murrow? Tomic offered no
> proof, only a "probably." Sloan offered no evidence, only a hunch.
>
> sourcing
>
> And please tell us, what article is this? If you refer to my
> interview with Yuri Averbakh, you have little or no point unless you:
> A) prove that Averbakh was/is in the KGB,
> B) demonstrate that the interview somehow served nefarious KGB
> interests, instead of merely discussing chess history,
> C) explain how the KGB, an organ of the Soviet state, is still
> operating 15 years after the USSR's dissolution.
>
> And frankly, I don't care a rat's rump if Averbakh was in the KGB. So
> what? He's still worth interviewing. You'd jump at the chance to
> interview him for Chessville.com, and you know it.
> How about Genna Sosonko? Will you denounce him for interviewing
> Viktor Baturinsky, a KNOWN tool of Soviet oppression, in "The Reliable
> Past"? What about Bernard Cafferty of the BCM, who translated alleged
> KGB favorite Kotov's "Think Like a Grandmaster"? Or Larry Evans, who
> interviewed Eduard Gufeld for Chess Life? Were they "sole-sourcing"
> nefarious communist mouthpieces?
> And if it's so clear to you that it was obviously wrong of me to
> interview Averbakh, which I did in 2002, why did you, Phil, interview
> me in 2004? Who's "sole-sourcing" whom here?
>
> Phil, you seem seriously to be going off the deep end here -- and I
> mean off the high board into an empty pool. It's making a very ugly
> sound.
>
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