Chess politics - Tomic's Promise?

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Tomic's Promise?

Taylor Kingston

2005-03-25, 6:51 am

Goran Tomic wrote:

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> Crucial question was who
> connected Hunnon Russel with that man and how many times he was in

contact

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> with that man. As you know nothing doesn't happen perchance, If Mr

Kingston

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> answer me on that questions, I promise that I would answer on his

questions

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> detailed and send strong indications that masked communists rule the

world.

Is that an absolute, unbreakable promise, Goran? Remember, the whole
world is watching. If you break your word you will look very bad.
If you swear before God and man to answer my questions in detail, I
will tell you everything I know about Hanon Russell's connection with
Yuri Averbakh.

Taylor Kingston

Taylor Kingston

2005-03-28, 3:53 am

Sam Sloan wrote:

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> I have known Grandmaster Averbakh since 1977.

Thank you for your message. However, at this time I am interested
only in Mr. Tomic's response.

Taylor Kingston

2005-03-28, 5:56 pm

Goran Tomic wrote:

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> Dear Mr. Kingston,
> thanks for the answers. I have just prepared the answers to your

questions

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> when I got the mail (from John Bosnitch) with news I was waiting.

Now, as

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> you can expect, I have more important things to do, so excuse me for

some

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> days. I promise, when I have time I'll send my answers to the

newsgroup.

If you have already prepared the answers, there is no need to delay.
Surely you could post them in less time than it took to compose the
above message.
Also your promise said nothing about delay, and certainly I did not
delay in answering your questions. For you to do so will arouse the
suspicion that you have acted in bad faith, especially since it is your
well-known habit to post to this group many times per day.
You do not want everyone to think that you have concocted some
transparent pretext by which to break your promise, eh? By all means,
post your answers now! After all, the world is waiting, no?

Taylor Kingston

2005-03-28, 5:57 pm

Chess One wrote:

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> Taylor, I did not address my post to you. If you want to e-mail or

have some

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> private exchange of information with Goran Tomic you could have done

that,

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> what are these public postures?

Phil, I would never dream of challenging you in the realm of public
posturing. And as we both know quite well, you have followed these
posts closely, so I recommend dropping the pretense of honest
ignorance.
You know very well that I do not want a "private exchange of
information with Goran Tomic." I feel that he owes a public explanation
of certain of his quite public comments, specifically (for the
umpteenth time):

"If some secret world rulers (which Bobby revealed) find that your
country has some values they need, everything can happen." - Goran
Tomic, March 14 2005.

"World's rulers (Bobby identified them) wanted to destroy our
country, take our resources, put their bases and that's all." -
Goran Tomic, March 14 2005.

"If Mr Kingston answer me on that questions, I promise that I would
answer on his questions detailed and send strong indications that
masked communists rule the world." - Goran Tomic, March 21 2005.

Mr. Kingston has answered. Tomic continues to evade, and has yet to
make the least good on his very public promise.

Taylor Kingston

Taylor Kingston

2005-03-28, 5:57 pm

Chess One wrote:

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> Phil Innes

Phil, as I said earlier, at this time I am interested only in Mr.
Tomic's response. Anything you might do to expedite that would be
appreciated, as would your refraining from doing anything that might
obfuscate the immediate issue, which is: Mr. Tomic's as yet unkept
promise.

Goran Tomic

2005-03-29, 3:56 am

"Jeremy Spinrad" <spin@vuse.vanderbilt.edu>

quote:

> These are shocking revelations, and go back even further. From my
> research, I
> have discovered that EVERY ONE of the great 19th century players is now
> dead. Who
> is responsible for this?
>
> Jerry Spinrad

So, you authorize all the crimes happened in past centuries, because all
these victims would be dead anyway. Thanks! you are real "chess historian"?
Or self called "chess historian"?
Do you think that some victim's offspring could be alive if they were not
murdered?
It seems that you are not Christian.
Maybe you are member of some Satanist's cult. You eat human meat? Do you?
Your satisfaction is killing and murders! Do you like it? Your sick logic is
that everybody have to die and you want to help them to die. Normal human
couldn't have such reason! Only members of some cult! Satanist's cult! I
revealed your pathology! Shame you!

Goran Tomic

Goran Tomic

2005-03-30, 3:55 am

"Taylor Kingston" <tkingston@chittenden.com>

Dear Mr. Kingston,

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> If you do not give me his name, I cannot answer your question,
> because I do not know who you mean. The most recent death I know of
> among prominent chess masters was Arnold Denker. He seems very, very
> unlikely as KGB material.
> Off the top of my head, I recall that the Soviet GM considered most
> likely to have KGB connections was Alexander Kotov. However, he died in
> 1981, and I never had any contact with him, unless you consider reading
> some of his books "contact."

I'm a bit surprised that you couldn't guess what's the name of that GM. He
died recently and there were many indication that he worked for KGB. He
could travel all around the world without "shadow". I'm sure that 80% chess
educated readers of this newsgroup know who is he. If he is alive, I would
mention his name, but, he is died, so we have no right to mention his name.

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> You sound
> like Joe McCarthy circa 1950.

Maybe, but obviously that, in modifying version realized 40-50 years what he
predicted. But many of you are not aware that they are all around. If you
really envisage today's situation you can see many similarities between
communist system 50 years ago and nowadays system in some West countries.
It's interesting question who imported communism on East? Who won the "cold
war"? Obviously communists! You absobed their ideology, but I hope some day
you will wake up and see what monstrums you became.

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> A) that "masked communists rule the world,"

That would be clear if you answer yourself on some questions:
1. Who menaced Fischer in 60's? Who menaced Fischer today?
2. Who made campaigns against grandmasters who escaped on the other side of
the Earth (like in the case of Korchnoi)? Who made campaigns against
grandmaster who escaped on the other side of the Earth (in Japan)?
3. Who had campaigns in media and had pressure on national chess players not
to play on some big events? (Like Olympiad) several dozens years ago? Who
had campaigns and had pressure on national chess players not to play on WCC?
4. Who used expansionistic politic and tried to use force and armors to
achieve that? Who maintain expansionistic politic and use the armors to
achieve that now? Is it democratic achievement?
5. Which country the most democratic in all "democratic world"? Iceland,
obviously. And which country is the least? Guess!

I think that would be enough for the first question.

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> B) that Bobby Fischer has actually "revealed and identified" these
> "secret world rulers," and

In the first phase he identified their ideology. In the second phase he
identified precisely who use that ideology on the most fanatic way, hundred
years, for achieving their goals.

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> C) who these secret world rulers actually are.
>

These world rulers use murders, kidnapping and other crimes in achieving
their goals. They probably killed several famous chess players, with
inducted hearth attack or on the other way, maybe in the case of Alekhine,
Keres etc. They killed one of the biggest German chess player, Klaus Junge.
Claus Junge was great potential and maybe he could be World Champion after
Word War II (if he survived). I would remind on Kevin Spraget's words about
Alekhine's death:

---
The doctor who wrote the official death certificate (Dr. Antonio Ferreira,
just by chance an avid chess player himself) later told friends that
Alekhine's body was found on the street, in front of his hotel room! He had
been shot! He said that government pressure had forced him to complete the
death certificate as it now exists. (Portugal was neutral during the Second
World War, and might have wanted to avoid any controversy).
----

I would remind also on Salzburg tournament in 1942. from my article
Salzburg's curse again (http://www.pakchess.com/ Strike a light)

The organisers of Salzburg 1942 intended to bring together world champion
Alekhine, former champion Euwe, challenger Keres, former challenger
Bogoljubow, Stoltz and German champion Schmidt, the six strongest players of
Germany and the occupied countries.....
Chess events took place in the wonderful rooms of Mirabell Palace. No
wartime tournament book about Salzburg 1942 appeared. Only short reports
were published in chess journals.
So, as you can remind, WCC Alexander Alekhine died in very suspicious
circumstances (Some say he died of a heart attack. Others say he choked with
a piece of meat,
but some people think that he was killed). Klaus Junge, the greatest German
chess player till Huebner, was obviously killed. Bogoljubow died from heart
attack. On his way home from the Vancouver International winning in Canada
on the 5th of June, Keres died suddenly from a heart attack in Finland at
the age of 59. Efim Bogoljubow also died of the heart attack in 1952.

I think that' enough to conclude who wanted these chess players to see died.

Best regards,
Goran Tomic