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| chessdon@aol.com 2005-03-23, 5:54 pm |
| Politics and the Search for a new ED!
Folks, there doesn't seem to be any politics at work here.
The search process for our next ED is going very well indeed.
It is being done in a professional and thoughtful way.
I'm proud to part of this fine effort and compliment my fellow EB
members especially Randy Bauer for their part in helping make this so.
On April 2, 3 at our Berkeley, California EB meeting, we will be
interviewing the four finalists for this position. Hopefully we will be
able to announce our choice shortly after that.
Don Schultz
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| Sam Sloan 2005-03-23, 5:54 pm |
| On 23 Mar 2005 05:34:34 -0800, chessdon@aol.com wrote:
quote:
>Politics and the Search for a new ED!
>
>Folks, there doesn't seem to be any politics at work here.
>
>The search process for our next ED is going very well indeed.
>
>It is being done in a professional and thoughtful way.
>
>I'm proud to part of this fine effort and compliment my fellow EB
>members especially Randy Bauer for their part in helping make this so.
>
>On April 2, 3 at our Berkeley, California EB meeting, we will be
>interviewing the four finalists for this position. Hopefully we will be
>able to announce our choice shortly after that.
>
>Don Schultz
The word from the Left Coast is that it has already been decided that
Beatriz Marinello will be the new ED.
What do you have to say about that?
Sam Sloan
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| chessdon@aol.com 2005-03-23, 5:54 pm |
| I don't think so. It would be such a serious violation of the bylaws
that it could not be ignored.
I'm very concerned about Glenn Petersen who had a heart attack late
Monday afternoon. Glenn is in theintensive care unit of a hospital in
the New Windsor area. His condition is unclear.
Don
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| Paul Rubin 2005-03-23, 5:54 pm |
| chessdon@aol.com writes:
quote:
> Folks, there doesn't seem to be any politics at work here.
> The search process for our next ED is going very well indeed.
> It is being done in a professional and thoughtful way.
Good god, I hope not, that's how they got Cavallo and De Feis. Why
not cut the crap this time and hire someone who can get the job done?
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| Mike Nolan 2005-03-23, 5:54 pm |
| Paul Rubin <http://phr.cx@NOSPAM.invalid> writes:
quote:
>chessdon@aol.com writes:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>Good god, I hope not, that's how they got Cavallo and De Feis. Why
>not cut the crap this time and hire someone who can get the job done?
I thought Cavallo was hired using what C. Northcotte Parkinson called
the 'Chinese Short List' principle. That's when you draw up a list of
qualified candidates, and then someone says, "I think we can get Dr. Wu
to take the job", though his name isn't on that list.
--
Mike Nolan
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| chessdon@aol.com 2005-03-23, 5:54 pm |
| Cavallo has detractors and supporters from both sides of the poltical
aisle. Fe also was highly qualified, a Harvard graduate, president of
the Cavallo Foundation for the handicapped etc. And unlike other EDs he
insisted on a condition where the day he was no longer wanted he would
leave and accept no buy out or severance from USCF. He did get into the
final five without going through the preliminaries because of his
application arriving at the eleventh hour and the last minute drop out
of one of the other finalists, a doctor from New England who apparently
was disgusted with all the crap and name calling on the Internet and
did not want to bepart of that scene. Beatriz worked under Mike and had
the highest praise for how hard and well he worked during the first
half of his term. BTW Mike's wife Leah, a five time champion on
Jeopardy, is in the playoffs to determine a challenger for Jeopardies
all time champion Ken Jennings in a 2 million dollar match. Leah won
$46,000 in the first round to determine the challenger by defeating two
other five time champions. i state the jeopardy matter simply as
itprobably is of interest to many of Mike's chess friends who follow
rgcp and obviously not because it gas any relevance to the ED selection
process.
As for DeFeis, if you can't say something good best to say nothing. One
difference in the recruitment of Cavallo from that of Defeis was that
all of Cavallo's referneces and job history wwer checked and verified
and none of DeFeis was.
I'm convinced every member of our current Board is working to get the
best new ED we can, but I see the critics already getting set to shoot
down whoever is selected , however qualified. C'est la rgcp!.
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| Randy Bauer 2005-03-23, 5:54 pm |
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"Sam Sloan" <sloan@ishipress.com> wrote in message
news:42418e9f.9280656@ca.news.verio.net...
quote:
> On 23 Mar 2005 05:34:34 -0800, chessdon@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> The word from the Left Coast is that it has already been decided that
> Beatriz Marinello will be the new ED.
>
> What do you have to say about that?
>
> Sam Sloan
It is not true. Clear enough for you? They call it left field for a
reason.
Randy Bauer
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| Mike Nolan 2005-03-23, 5:54 pm |
| "Randy Bauer" <randybauer2300@yahoo.com> writes:
quote:
>It is not true. Clear enough for you? They call it left field for a
>reason.
But do you KNOW the reason? :-)
Here's the story. Before the Cubs played at Wrigley Field, they played
at the old West Side stands, a bit west of the current Loop.
There was no outfield fence there, just a big open field of grass,
at the other end of which was a mental hospital.
Occasionally the patients would wander out of the hospital, walk across
the grass, and wind up, wait for it.......in left field.
--
Mike Nolan, Certified Cubs Fan
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| jimeade 2005-03-23, 9:52 pm |
| I wish the EB success in the new ED hiring. Hopefully, they've scaled
down the salary along with the job. Re: Cavallo, the only people who
thought he did a good job are ostriches, weasles and the like.
Cavallo had no office management experience, no books and equipment
experience and no magazine experience. He did not make my top three
out of the top five finalists. He was bright and funny and I liked him
personally, but he was also without question the most politicized ED in
the federation's history. That is entirely due to his misfortune of
having had Schultz as President.
During the Schultz/Cavallo administration operations lost money every
single year. The losses totaled something on the order of three
quarters of a million dollars. This was somewhat mitigated by the
stock market bubble which temporarily enriched the LMA during this
span, but the federation was impoverished by the end of their run.
Accounts payable and notes payable reached all time highs while
accounts receivable was artificially inflated. The US Closed
Championship got cancelled the very next year due to lack of funding.
(That turned out to be a blessing in disguise, but how can any sane
person ignore the obvious implication?)
In Schultz' outgoing message to the members in Chess Life he
characterized the federation's financial picture as "strong." The
members and the voters were systematically misled during this period by
both Schultz and Goichberg. I can't believe either has had the
audacity to run again. I take that back. I believe it. They nearly
ruined the federation by denying problems, while simultaneously
pointing fingers elsewhere. Their behavior was despicable.
The voters and members were also misled by the administrations of Bob
Smith and John McCrary. Redman was the only honest administration,
unfortunately it also suffered from incompetent management.
Marinello deserves high praise and our thanks. Tough decisions have
been made, competency has been restored and fiscal health regained.
I'm voting for Shaunessy, Bauer, Schutt and John. They are part of the
solution. Do NOT vote for anyone endorsed by Don Schultz. He is part
of the problem. I don't know Shahade well enough to endorse him, but I
do believe him when he says he is not running on a slate.
Look at this newsgroup! We have Parr and Sloan competing for who will
be the Jean Paul Marat of USCF politics. We have too many spammers,
and too many non-helpful anonymice. I'll offer to start a thread on a
moderated site like chessninja.com called USCF Politics. What do
people think? If reasonable people post there, and ignore r.g.c.p. it
will die its long overdue death. As Dorsch used to say, the signal to
noise ratio is too low.
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| Paul Rubin 2005-03-23, 9:52 pm |
| "jimeade" <jimeade@aol.com> writes:
quote:
> Look at this newsgroup! We have Parr and Sloan competing for who will
> be the Jean Paul Marat of USCF politics. We have too many spammers,
> and too many non-helpful anonymice. I'll offer to start a thread on a
> moderated site like chessninja.com called USCF Politics. What do
> people think? If reasonable people post there, and ignore r.g.c.p. it
> will die its long overdue death. As Dorsch used to say, the signal to
> noise ratio is too low.
There's some weird spam/forgery thing happening on rgcp right now but
these things come and go on newsgroups. Just ride it out. It's better
to have open discussions here on Usenet than on some private web forum.
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"Sam Sloan" <sloan@ishipress.com> wrote in message
news:42418e9f.9280656@ca.news.verio.net...
quote:
> The word from the Left Coast is that it has already been decided that
> Beatriz Marinello will be the new ED.
>
> What do you have to say about that?
It is true. She will get a salary of 150K and Hanke will get the editor job
for 125K. Bauer will get the CFO job for 100K. Don will become the new board
president and get a six-month expense account of 30K (60K annually). You're
on top of everything.
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<chessdon@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1111593409.690132.4960@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
quote:
>I don't think so. It would be such a serious violation of the bylaws
> that it could not be ignored.
>
> I'm very concerned about Glenn Petersen who had a heart attack late
> Monday afternoon. Glenn is in theintensive care unit of a hospital in
> the New Windsor area. His condition is unclear.
That was supposed to be kept confidential until his family was notified.
Shame on you.
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| Randy Bauer 2005-03-23, 9:52 pm |
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"StanB" <stanbooz@comXXXcast.net> wrote in message
news:PNudnaxF2bqijd_fRVn-pg@comcast.com...
quote:
>
> "Sam Sloan" <sloan@ishipress.com> wrote in message
> news:42418e9f.9280656@ca.news.verio.net...
>
>
> It is true. She will get a salary of 150K and Hanke will get the editor
> job for 125K. Bauer will get the CFO job for 100K. Don will become the new
> board president and get a six-month expense account of 30K (60K annually).
> You're on top of everything.
>
Sam, never one to understand sarcasm, will now put this in his deposition
for his latest lawsuit.
Randy Bauer
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| Randy Bauer 2005-03-23, 9:52 pm |
|
"jimeade" <jimeade@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1111625123.626631.310710@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
quote:
>I wish the EB success in the new ED hiring. Hopefully, they've scaled
> down the salary along with the job. Re: Cavallo, the only people who
> thought he did a good job are ostriches, weasles and the like.
A good point, Jim. We have, indeed, changed the salary structure, both to
reflect the cost of living in Tennessee and the smaller/less complex
operating budget.
quote:
>
> Cavallo had no office management experience, no books and equipment
> experience and no magazine experience. He did not make my top three
> out of the top five finalists. He was bright and funny and I liked him
> personally, but he was also without question the most politicized ED in
> the federation's history. That is entirely due to his misfortune of
> having had Schultz as President.
>
> During the Schultz/Cavallo administration operations lost money every
> single year. The losses totaled something on the order of three
> quarters of a million dollars. This was somewhat mitigated by the
> stock market bubble which temporarily enriched the LMA during this
> span, but the federation was impoverished by the end of their run.
> Accounts payable and notes payable reached all time highs while
> accounts receivable was artificially inflated. The US Closed
> Championship got cancelled the very next year due to lack of funding.
> (That turned out to be a blessing in disguise, but how can any sane
> person ignore the obvious implication?)
I am certain that the current Board will NOT paper over signs of budget
trouble. Tim Hanke has been a budget analyst, Beatriz has a degree in
accounting, I have a strong budget background, and we have put CPAs in key
positions both on the Finance Committee and (at present) in the office.
Accounts payable is extremely low, we don't have to deal with the
inventory/cashflow issues surrounding books and equipment, and we're hitting
our revenue numbers. I agree that the partnership with AF4C has served US
chess very well, and I believe it will continue -- they have done an
excellent job with the US Championship, and I commend them for it.
quote:
>
> In Schultz' outgoing message to the members in Chess Life he
> characterized the federation's financial picture as "strong." The
> members and the voters were systematically misled during this period by
> both Schultz and Goichberg. I can't believe either has had the
> audacity to run again. I take that back. I believe it. They nearly
> ruined the federation by denying problems, while simultaneously
> pointing fingers elsewhere. Their behavior was despicable.
>
> The voters and members were also misled by the administrations of Bob
> Smith and John McCrary. Redman was the only honest administration,
> unfortunately it also suffered from incompetent management.
>
> Marinello deserves high praise and our thanks. Tough decisions have
> been made, competency has been restored and fiscal health regained.
> I'm voting for Shaunessy, Bauer, Schutt and John. They are part of the
> solution. Do NOT vote for anyone endorsed by Don Schultz. He is part
> of the problem. I don't know Shahade well enough to endorse him, but I
> do believe him when he says he is not running on a slate.
I honestly believe that the current Board deserves the chance to continue to
build on successes that have been achieved. There is a great opportunity to
finish the move -- and reduce administrative and fixed costs -- and then
focus on better customer service and building strategic partnerships. The
HB International Tournament is an exciting example of what the future might
bring.
quote:
>
> Look at this newsgroup! We have Parr and Sloan competing for who will
> be the Jean Paul Marat of USCF politics. We have too many spammers,
> and too many non-helpful anonymice. I'll offer to start a thread on a
> moderated site like chessninja.com called USCF Politics. What do
> people think? If reasonable people post there, and ignore r.g.c.p. it
> will die its long overdue death. As Dorsch used to say, the signal to
> noise ratio is too low.
I have not been to the site before, but I will and promise to read and post
to it.
Tom Dorsch was right about a lot of things (but I still think he was wrong
about OMOV). I hope the voters will continue to breathe some fresh air into
USCF politics and maintain some Board continuity -- we've come a long way,
but the job is not finished.
Randy Bauer
quote:
>
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| Sam Sloan 2005-03-24, 3:52 am |
| On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 01:23:42 GMT, "Randy Bauer"
<randybauer2300@yahoo.com> wrote:
quote:
>
>"StanB" <stanbooz@comXXXcast.net> wrote in message
>news:PNudnaxF2bqijd_fRVn-pg@comcast.com...
>
>Sam, never one to understand sarcasm, will now put this in his deposition
>for his latest lawsuit.
>
>Randy Bauer
You got it right!
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| Randy Bauer 2005-03-24, 3:52 am |
|
"Sam Sloan" <sloan@ishipress.com> wrote in message
news:42423300.3242515@ca.news.verio.net...
quote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 01:23:42 GMT, "Randy Bauer"
> <randybauer2300@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> You got it right!
Since you view the newsgroups as a sufficient way to present information for
a lawsuit, please note that I will not now, or during my Board service and 5
years after, take a paid position with the USCF. Besides, why would I take
a CFO job with salary and benefits and responsibility well below my current
position?
Did you get that, Sam? Please make sure you note my denial in your Court
documents.
Randy Bauer
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| parrthenon@cs.com 2005-03-24, 3:52 am |
| JIM EADE'S OFFICIAL NEWS CHANNEL
<Look at this newsgroup! We have Parr and Sloan competing for who will
be the Jean Paul Marat of USCF politics. We have too many spammers, and
too many non-helpful anonymice. I'll offer to start a thread on a
moderated site like chessninja.com called USCF Politics. What do people
think? If reasonable people post there, and ignore r.g.c.p. it will die
its long overdue death.> Jim Eade
Jim Eade returns and his big bazoo is always a welcome if
predictable voice.
It is fair to assume that neither I nor other dissenting voices
would be permitted to post at his private "news" group. You would not
read over there about:
1. The $60,000 award to Crossville architect Phil Elmore, which forced
a renegotiaton of the dirty contract, thereby saving the Federaton the
cost of about 300 memberships;
2. The cost of the new building in Crossville continuing to spiral
upwards with inside estimates now reaching $650,000 (this report forced
our lads to begin talking about the subject);
3. A writedown of the Federation's income, which I reported months
ago and that was denied by Randy Bauer and others until made public by
Bill Goichberg.
But you would get a lot of official news.
At the official news channel, Randy Bauer will contradict himself
according to the political needs of the moment, though you can rest
assured he won't tell you about that $60,000 contract and whether
Crossville lawyer Harry Sabine knew of the cost overrun and protected a
friend. You will get all the news that the politicians find fit for
you to know.
That's why they want to kill rgcp.
You will receive responsible news from responsible people who
didn't want you to know about the contract for Famished architect Phil
Elmore.
You might not hear about those imprisoned or murdered by FIDE
President Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, but you would read testimonials about
what a grand job Kirsan is doing as president of FIDE and why drug
testing player is so necessary.
There would be no reports about presidential gifts of gold rolexes
and jars of caviar or large prize funds for cronies, but you would read
reports aboutthe wonderful achievements of our FIDE "team." Randy
Bauer would certainly offer a testimonial about the grand work in FIDE
of Honest Steve Doyle and
Truthful Bill Kelleher.
Jim's proposed site will be a fine place for cured insomniacs to
learn what the authorities believe you need to know.
Elsewhere, Randy Bauer has informed us that he was being
sarcastic (silvery irony, like silvery laughter, is not his forte) when
announcing that Beatriz Marinello will receive $150,000 annually as
executive director, while Tim Hanke steps in as editor at $125,000 and
himself as CFO at $100,000. Don Schultz would then get an annualized
$60,000 in "expenses," since Mrs. Marinello will have moved on to
greener Federation employment pastures.
Mr. Bauer can be relied upon to provide more of his heavy
Teutonic humor at Mr. Eade's site.
I shall likely make my way over to the proposed official news
channel in order to be banned. It's the least I can do.
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| Sam Sloan 2005-03-24, 5:53 pm |
| On 23 Mar 2005 23:01:19 -0800, "parrthenon@cs.com" <parrthenon@cs.com>
wrote:
quote:
> Randy Bauer would certainly offer a testimonial about the grand work in FIDE
>of Honest Steve Doyle
This one is good. I think I will use it when I get the chance.
Sam Sloan
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| chessdon@aol.com 2005-03-24, 5:53 pm |
|
StanB wrote:
quote:
> That was supposed to be kept confidential until his family was
notified.
quote:
> Shame on you.
Stan, staff knew it and dozens and dozens of others did. There are some
thngs that can't be kept secret. That aside, when I was told about it
nobody said it was confidential, when Beatriz told me that last night,
I told her it was too late, the world knows.
Stan you jump at anything to get a dig in whether it is spreading
gossip about someone's wife without checking the facts or saying shame
on me without checking the facts. Shame on me? No, shame on you!
Don Schultz
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| jimeade 2005-03-24, 5:53 pm |
| Here's the url for the chessninja message board:
http://www.chessninja.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi I've started a thread
called USCF Politics on the "Hall of Flame" board. I respect Paul's
opinion, but I think a moderated group will serve a purpose.
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| Susan'sBoyToy 2005-03-24, 5:53 pm |
|
<chessdon@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1111677236.278563.255010@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
quote:
>
> StanB wrote:
>
> notified.
>
> Stan, staff knew it and dozens and dozens of others did. There are some
> thngs that can't be kept secret. That aside, when I was told about it
> nobody said it was confidential, when Beatriz told me that last night,
> I told her it was too late, the world knows.
>
> Stan you jump at anything to get a dig in whether it is spreading
> gossip about someone's wife without checking the facts or saying shame
> on me without checking the facts. Shame on me? No, shame on you!
>
> Don Schultz
Stan Booz is bad news. Thank you for supporting us when USCF try to cheat
us.
Paul
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| parrthenon@cs.com 2005-03-24, 5:53 pm |
| JIM EADE'S MODERATED "NEWS"
As promised, I peeked at Mr. Eade's new forum. Needless to say, his
screed attacked Don Schultz and Bill Goichberg and supported the
incumbents plus George John.
Author Topic: USCF Politics
Jim Eade
Knight
Member # 1517
posted document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,2,24,14,31,0), dfrm,
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The USCF was in excellent financial shape back in 1996 when Don
Schultz and Bill Goichberg became President and vice-President
respectively. Three years later they left an organization so
impoverished that the 2000 U.S. Closed Championship was cancelled due
to lack of funds.
Operations lost money every single year of their administration, while
accounts payable and notes payable hit record highs. Vendors were
putting the USCF on a cash only basis due to lack of payment.
There is an election this year and Schultz, who is already on the
Executive Board is hoping that Goichberg, who is running again, will
join him so that they can regain power. It will be a disaster, if they
do. They consistently put their own narrow self interest ahead of the
good of the organization.
Three board members who have particpated in the return to financial
health, Randy Bauer, Elizabeth Shaunnessy, and Steve Schutt are
candidates this year and deserve your support. Another candidate,
George John, is a person I've known for years and also has my full
support.
The membership was systematically misled during the Schultz years.
Don't let him do it again. Vote for the people who will tell the
members the truth. Posts: 9 | From: Menlo Park | Registered: Mar 2005 |
IP: Logged
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| George John 2005-03-24, 5:53 pm |
| Jim,
Thanks for starting this. I think there is a place for both moderated
(yours) and unmoderated groups (this one). I plan to contribute to
yours soon (after my registration is approved).
Best regards,
George John
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| Ray Gordon 2005-03-24, 5:53 pm |
| Just had to crosspost this one!
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<parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> JIM EADE'S OFFICIAL NEWS CHANNEL
>
> <Look at this newsgroup! We have Parr and Sloan competing for who will
> be the Jean Paul Marat of USCF politics. We have too many spammers, and
> too many non-helpful anonymice. I'll offer to start a thread on a
> moderated site like chessninja.com called USCF Politics. What do people
> think? If reasonable people post there, and ignore r.g.c.p. it will die
> its long overdue death.> Jim Eade
>
> Jim Eade returns and his big bazoo is always a welcome if
> predictable voice.
>
> It is fair to assume that neither I nor other dissenting voices
> would be permitted to post at his private "news" group. You would not
> read over there about :
>
> 1. The $60,000 award to Crossville architect Phil Elmore, which forced
> a renegotiaton of the dirty contract, thereby saving the Federaton the
> cost of about 300 memberships;
>
> 2. The cost of the new building in Crossville continuing to spiral
> upwards with inside estimates now reaching $650,000 (this report forced
> our lads to begin talking about the subject);
>
> 3. A writedown of the Federation's income, which I reported months
> ago and that was denied by Randy Bauer and others until made public by
> Bill Goichberg.
>
> But you would get a lot of official news.
>
> At the official news channel, Randy Bauer will contradict himself
> according to the political needs of the moment, though you can rest
> assured he won't tell you about that $60,000 contract and whether
> Crossville lawyer Harry Sabine knew of the cost overrun and protected a
> friend. You will get all the news that the politicians find fit for
> you to know.
>
> That's why they want to kill rgcp.
>
> You will receive responsible news from responsible people who
> didn't want you to know about the contract for Famished architect Phil
> Elmore.
>
> You might not hear about those imprisoned or murdered by FIDE
> President Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, but you would read testimonials about
> what a grand job Kirsan is doing as president of FIDE and why drug
> testing player is so necessary.
>
> There would be no reports about presidential gifts of gold rolexes
> and jars of caviar or large prize funds for cronies, but you would read
> reports aboutthe wonderful achievements of our FIDE "team." Randy
> Bauer would certainly offer a testimonial about the grand work in FIDE
> of Honest Steve Doyle and
> Truthful Bill Kelleher.
>
> Jim's proposed site will be a fine place for cured insomniacs to
> learn what the authorities believe you need to know.
>
> Elsewhere, Randy Bauer has informed us that he was being
> sarcastic (silvery irony, like silvery laughter, is not his forte) when
> announcing that Beatriz Marinello will receive $150,000 annually as
> executive director, while Tim Hanke steps in as editor at $125,000 and
> himself as CFO at $100,000. Don Schultz would then get an annualized
> $60,000 in "expenses," since Mrs. Marinello will have moved on to
> greener Federation employment pastures.
>
> Mr. Bauer can be relied upon to provide more of his heavy
> Teutonic humor at Mr. Eade's site.
>
> I shall likely make my way over to the proposed official news
> channel in order to be banned. It's the least I can do.
>
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| Le Modern Caveman 2005-03-24, 5:53 pm |
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| Sam Sloan 2005-03-24, 9:53 pm |
| On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:58:01 -0500, "StanB" <stanbooz@comXXXcast.net>
wrote:
quote:
>
><chessdon@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:1111593409.690132.4960@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>That was supposed to be kept confidential until his family was notified.
>Shame on you.
Don Schultz posted this on Wednesday, March 23. The heart attack
occured on Monday, March 21. If the family does not know about it
after two days, that would be surprising.
We were the last to know. When I called around with this "news" after
I read it here, I found that everybody else had heard it the previous
day.
Glenn Petersen is one of the very few who supports the move to
Crossville. Beatriz probably wants to keep his condition a secret for
as long aspossible.
We all hope that Glenn has a speedy recovery, but if he is unable to
continue as editor of Chess Life there is a real problem that will
have to be addressed. Already it was being said that Chess Life would
remain in New Windsor until the last or perhaps even permanently.
Sam Sloan
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| Sam Sloan 2005-03-24, 9:53 pm |
| On 24 Mar 2005 12:21:51 -0800, "George John" <george@neosoft.com>
wrote:
quote:
>Jim,
>
>Thanks for starting this. I think there is a place for both moderated
>(yours) and unmoderated groups (this one). I plan to contribute to
>yours soon (after my registration is approved).
>
>Best regards,
>
>George John
You guys have a real nice time talking to each other,will you !
Sam Sloan
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| George John 2005-03-24, 9:53 pm |
| Sam Sloan wrote:
[SNIP]
quote:
> Already it was being said that Chess Life would
> remain in New Windsor until the last or perhaps even permanently.
The architectural plan included in the upcoming April "Chess Life"
shows a large open area for the "Publications Department". This would
suggest that publications will eventually be moved to Crossville once
the new building is ready which is scheduled for mid to late March
2006.
See: http://www.uschess.org/crossvillemove.pdf
[SNIP]
Best regards,
George John
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| George John 2005-03-24, 9:53 pm |
| A life member has asked me a question about how I would go about
improving publications, and I have answered. So, the current count is
up to three.
Best regards,
George John
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|
|
<chessdon@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1111677236.278563.255010@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
quote:
>
> StanB wrote:
>
> notified.
>
> Stan, staff knew it and dozens and dozens of others did. There are some
> thngs that can't be kept secret. That aside, when I was told about it
> nobody said it was confidential, when Beatriz told me that last night,
> I told her it was too late, the world knows.
That doesn't justify bragging about it here.
quote:
> Stan you jump at anything to get a dig in whether it is spreading
> gossip about someone's wife without checking the facts or saying shame
> on me without checking the facts. Shame on me? No, shame on you!
Don't change the subject. You had no right to do a Sam Sloan and publish
someone else's misfortune here.
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|
|
"Susan'sBoyToy" <USLive@admin.com> wrote in message
news:mOD0e.19$j27.720@news.uswest.net...
quote:
>
> Stan Booz is bad news. Thank you for supporting us when USCF try to cheat
> us.
>
> Paul
Another slug joins Sam Sloan and Larry Parr as Don's loyal supporters.
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| Dwayne 2005-03-25, 3:52 am |
| "Sam Sloan" <> Glenn Petersen is one of the very few who supports the move
to Crossville. >>
Perhaps God is smiting the wicked. The USCF needs for more of those old
assholes that are running it into the ground to be called up.
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| parrthenon@cs.com 2005-03-25, 3:52 am |
| SCHULTZ VS. BOOZ: WHO SHOULD BE ASHAMED?
<That was supposed to be kept confidential until his family was
notified. Shame on you.> Stan Booz
<Stan, staff knew it and dozens and dozens of others did. There are
some thngs that can't be kept secret. That aside, when Iwas told about
it nobody said it was confidential, when Beatriz told me that last
night, I told her it was too late, the world knows. Stan you jump at
anything to get a dig in whether it is spreading gossip about someone's
wife without checking the facts or saying shame on me without checking
the facts. Shame on me? No, shame on you!> Don Schultz
Shame, then, upon whom?
If Don Schultz is correct in saying that the staff and dozens of
others knew about Glenn Petersen's heart attack and if it occurred on
March 21st and Don Schultz only reported it on March 23rd, then it is
difficult to imagine how Glenn's family would not have known. If the
preceding are all true, then Mr. Schultz deserves moderate
congratulations for letting us know that a fine man is ill. I remember
when I had an operation seven years ago, and there was Glenn on the
blower to me a number of times, ordering me to get well. Arnold
Denker, too, phoned three or four times. So, too, good ol' Lev Alburt.
These are the kindnesses that you don't forget.
To be sure, telephone calls to a sick person are made NOT to
make you feel good about yourself but only when the doctors say that
such calls will make the patient feel well. I will be getting hold of
Glenn this weekend to wish him a speedy recovery.
Don Schultz says shame on Stan Booz. Okay, I have no doubt that
Mr. Booz's motives were the WORST IMAGINABLE: he doesn't give a fig
about a nice man who is sick but did wish to stick a cocktail fork, if
not a shiv, into Mr. Schultz. Having said that, Mr.Booz's act was a
venial sin -- a tiny bit of rpresentative nastiness that we have all
come to expect of him. No more than that.
Shame? Not exactly. Mr. Booz ought simply to resolve to act
better.
The answer, then, is that no one need feel ashamed. Mr.
Schultz actually showed a human impulse. Mr. Booz simply showed
himself.
How refreshing were Mr. Booz to apologize for the episode. Not
effusively. He need not grind himself into the dusty roadside. But
something like this: "My choler collared me. I'm sorry."
But don't hold your breath. Without a shred of evidence Bozo Booz
still claims I am lobbying for the job of Chess Life editor.
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| parrthenon@cs.com 2005-03-25, 3:52 am |
| RGCP: THE INTERNET TABLOID
How long will the official "news" channel last?
The biggest danger to Jim Eade's enterprise is that he and his
political cronies will grow bored with one another and come back here.
That is the most likely outcome.
"News" such as the following won't keep these guys around too
long:
George John, "The building is 'scheduled' to be finished in
2006."
Jim Eade, "Yeah, great news, great news. You're doing a grand
job, George."
Randy Bauer, "But, hey guys, a big round of applause for
Honest Steve Doyle and Truthful Bill Kelleher, our great
representatives in FIDE. They're
telling the truth to us. Let's give them a standing ovation."
Stan Booz, "Guys, we're kicking the shit oudda dem."
Official stuff won't keep anyone interested very long.
If you want to learn about the inside details of crooked
contracts and the possible 100 percent or more rise in the cost of the
Cross-to-Bear building, then rgcp will still be the place, along with
the fide-chess group. If you want to discuss whether Harry Sabine knew
that a friend was ripping off the USCF and kept his Tennessee trap
shut, then don't go to the official news channel. You'll find the story
right here in the Internet tabloid.
Rgcp will be for the news that the politicians don't want you to
know -- the news that comes from moles. The official news channel will
be for news that the politicians wish you to know.
Their motto should be: "All the news that's not fit to print."
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| Randy Bauer 2005-03-25, 3:52 am |
| In article <1111722746.183260.297540@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
parrthenon@cs.com says...
quote:
>
>RGCP: THE INTERNET TABLOID
>
> How long will the official "news" channel last?
>
> The biggest danger to Jim Eade's enterprise is that he and his
>political cronies will grow bored with one another and come back here.
>That is the most likely outcome.
>
> "News" such as the following won't keep these guys around too
>long:
>
> George John, "The building is 'scheduled' to be finished in
>2006."
>
> Jim Eade, "Yeah, great news, great news. You're doing a grand
>job, George."
>
> Randy Bauer, "But, hey guys, a big round of applause for
>Honest Steve Doyle and Truthful Bill Kelleher, our great
>representatives in FIDE. They're
>telling the truth to us. Let's give them a standing ovation."
This is not a quote, it is fiction from Larry Parr. It is a cheap parlor trick
that no doubt will be quoted by Sloan or Parr sometime in the future.
It's not the first time that Parr has resorted to this kind of deception. He
should be ashamed of himself.
And so it goes.
Randy Bauer
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| Paul Rubin 2005-03-25, 3:52 am |
| "jimeade" <jimeade@aol.com> writes:
quote:
> Here's the url for the chessninja message board:
> http://www.chessninja.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi I've started a thread
> called USCF Politics on the "Hall of Flame" board. I respect Paul's
> opinion, but I think a moderated group will serve a purpose.
I hope if you post anything interesting there, that you'll also post
it here.
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| parrthenon@cs.com 2005-03-25, 3:52 am |
| MR. BAUER NEVER HEARD OF PARODY
<This is not a quote, it is fiction from Larry Parr. It is a cheap
parlor trick that no doubt will be quoted by Sloan or Parr sometime in
the future. It's not the first time that Parr has resorted to this kind
of deception. He should be ashamed of himself.> Randy Bauer
Well, good. Randy Bauer has gotten down and dirty. Anyone reading the
full message that the man snipped realizes I was writing a parody. But
the stuff that will appear at the official "news" channel will indeed
be sounding like that.
These guys can't help it. Politicians can never accept the unfettered
give and take of ideas. When they themselves try to produce official
news, there is always a big snooze factor. Such is not the fault of a
Randy Bauer, a Jim Eade, or any of the other types who will try to be
interesting at the official news channel. Their purpose must inevitably
be: give members the news we want them to know, not the news that they
MUST know.
Happy talk. PR spin.
Not the inside story. Not the real skinny.
After all, as Mary Poppins (I think) put the matter better than Randy
Bauer could ever hope to do: a little bit of sugar makes the medicine
go down -- in a most delightful way! True. Delightful to the tastebuds,
but not to the newsbuds.
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| Randy Bauer 2005-03-25, 3:52 am |
|
<parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1111727905.346082.233060@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> MR. BAUER NEVER HEARD OF PARODY
>
> <This is not a quote, it is fiction from Larry Parr. It is a cheap
> parlor trick that no doubt will be quoted by Sloan or Parr sometime in
> the future. It's not the first time that Parr has resorted to this kind
> of deception. He should be ashamed of himself.> Randy Bauer
>
> Well, good. Randy Bauer has gotten down and dirty. Anyone reading the
> full message that the man snipped realizes I was writing a parody. But
> the stuff that will appear at the official "news" channel will indeed
> be sounding like that.
In Larry Parr's world, it's "down and dirty" for me to object to a "quote"
from a Larry Parr post attributed to me with "quotations" around it that
isn't a "quote."
Larry's response: "Of course" it was a parody.
Right.
Sam Sloan takes these sorts of "parodies" and writes them as facts into
sworn statements in lawsuits. Then they show up as actual "quotes" in
newsgroup posts and people believe them as fact.
Larry Parr knows this -- he's Sam's biggest cheerleader.
And so it goes.
Randy Bauer
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| George John 2005-03-25, 3:52 am |
| Paul,
Someone asked me to add a reset button to my rating & performance
calculator, which was trivial to do, and I did so. I can now say the
copy on the Texas Chess Association Website (http://www.texaschess.org)
is better than the one on the USCF Website (which I can't access to
update). -smile-
Someone asked me about what I thought transparency, conflict of
interest disclosure, and online voting -- all good questions which I
responded to. Randy has posted at least one message.
What has me currently puzzled is I can no long see Jim's "USCF
Politics" thread in the "Hall of Flame" forum. Hopefully, it will
reappear later. Although I love y'all here ;-), it's nice chatting
with a different crowd, too (at least I assume they are different
-smile-).
Best regards,
George John
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| usenet69@hotmail.com 2005-03-25, 6:50 am |
| ED?
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| Dwayne 2005-03-25, 5:51 pm |
| What is the url for the RGCP? Where can we go to find out the real dirt on
these scurrilous cretins that are destroying the USCF?
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|
|
<parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1111727905.346082.233060@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> Well, good. Randy Bauer has gotten down and dirty. Anyone reading the
> full message that the man snipped realizes I was writing a parody.
I read it and didn't realize it was a parody. It is pretty damn sad when a
professional writer writes a parody and no one recognizes it as such. Kinda
like holding a party and no one comes. Might just be time to hang up that
there quill.
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| David Ames 2005-03-25, 5:51 pm |
|
StanB wrote:
quote:
> <parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
> news:1111727905.346082.233060@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
the[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> I read it and didn't realize it was a parody. It is pretty damn sad
when a
quote:
> professional writer writes a parody and no one recognizes it as such.
Kinda
quote:
> like holding a party and no one comes. Might just be time to hang up
that
quote:
> there quill.
The tone of it was more like sarcasm.
David Ames
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| parrthenon@cs.com 2005-03-25, 5:51 pm |
| PARR'S PARODY
Well, interestinger and interestinger.
Randy Bauer admits I was writing a parody but he feigns outrage
because another person could use lines from the parody in a legal
action.
Has Mr. Bauer taken leave of his senses? Has he no sense of
humor?
First, I know of no instance in which Sam used material from a
parody for his lawsuits; secondly, even if he has, what has that to do
with the price of ocean sponges in Burma?
Mr. Bauer has dishonestly, indeed incontinently, attempted
to make a molehill from a mountain of hurt.
He tries to suggest, in his snipped version, that what is clearly
an imaginary conversation was an attempt by yours truly to misquote him
because I used quotation marks when writing dialogue. Mr. Bauer then
suggests I wrote a parody that Sam Sloan might use in a lawsuit!
Does one cry or hoot? Here is a member of the USCF Executive
Board, supposedly an adult male, whose goat has been royally gotten and
gored, framing an utterly incontinent argument. He has chafed for
days, and he now seems to be dribbling keyboard drivel..
I think I will write an entire imaginary dialogue of the kind that
we will likely be hearing at the official news channel. Mr. Bauer
begins to sound like that sadsack DJ in Good Morning, Vietnam, who was
the foil for Robin Williams. I mean to say, he really does.
FOR GEORGE JOHN: I'll visit Jim's "news" site again to write
a couple of little things. You will notice that I won't attack anyone's
wife and that I won't employ foul language. But what do you want to bet
that I won't be allowed access or will soon be banned?
Maybe it's time to repost Eade's Bestiary when for weeks on end, as
America's FIDE delegate, he defended killer Kirsan Ilyumzhinov and his
drug testing policy. In the process Mr. Eade told GM Yasser Seirawan
"F-you" and maligned several grandmasters who opposed testing including
GM Larry Evans whose book MODERN CHESS BRILLIANCIES Mr. Eade once
published.
Oh, yes, in balmier days Mr. Eade also published THE BOBBY FISCHER I
KNEW, AND OTHER STORIES by Arnold Denker and yours truly.
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| George John 2005-03-25, 5:51 pm |
| Larry,
FYI, Jim Eade is not the moderator of this board, ChessNinja's
moderators are.
That said, Jim's thread was nuked, so I created a replacement. It is
currently being researched why the thread was nuked. The moderator who
replied to my inquiry didn't not know why, and said he would have to
research this issue.
One interesting feature about this board is if the initial poster of a
thread deletes the first message, all subsequent posts are deleted with
it. So, in that sense an individual can have the power to censor, but
it's all or nothing.
Best regards,
George John
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| Randy Bauer 2005-03-25, 5:51 pm |
| In article <1111764348.261781.224740@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
parrthenon@cs.com says...
quote:
>
>PARR'S PARODY
>
> First, I know of no instance in which Sam used material from a
>parody for his lawsuits; secondly, even if he has, what has that to do
>with the price of ocean sponges in Burma?
Wrong. Sloan took an obvious "parody" by Tim Hanke concerning having the USCF's
cash from the sale of the building in New Windsor in the trunk of his car and
included it in his lawsuit as a reason to freeze USCF's funds.
Note that "PARR'S PARODY" did not show up at the front of this discussion until
Parr was called out for his mis-use of "quotations" attributed to people. The
obvious tactic in this case is for Parr to start an exercise in deflecting
attention.
Randy Bauer
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| Chess One 2005-03-25, 5:51 pm |
|
<parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1111764348.261781.224740@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> PARR'S PARODY
A STORM IN A TOILET-BOWL
Randy Bauer replying to this writer states he knew one was writing
like a parrot but his ire caused an outrage in Cross-shache
because another person there had thought to use it in ChessLife, increasing
circulation, but at the regretable expense of the content becoming
interesting.
Mr. Bauer who has taken to writing mournful haiku for ninjaland has
flushed away, indeed incontinently attempted
to make a mere fairy storey a dunghill of metaphors. He has turned Pooh into
poo.
He tries to suggest, in his own boquet, an imaginary conversation
between Jim Eade and the Red Queen.
Mr. Bauer, while an apparently adequate bean-counter by government standards
is a complete stranger to reading literary works of any merit, and such as I
reproduce before him from my own hand, and suggested I wrote that Sam Sloan
could use a good suit!
Does one cry or hoot?
If I read this writer sufficiently long I will be ashamed to be sober and
out of jail. It is little else but absolute raving; and we are not assured
to the contrary by merit that from his dankest cranial recess an aspiration
has formed in him, that he should aspire to the big trough, and so by any
ordinary means we would take it for granted that the author was a lunatic,
or worse, a mathematician! - as his principles are ludicrously wicked, and
his writing a melange of nonsense, the outpouring of an unrepentent dreamer,
maniacally raving, weaving... and hungry for grits.
I think I will write an entire imaginary dialogue of the kind that we
will likely be hearing at the election special official chess haiku
automatic past-post incinerating dumpster. Mr. Bauer begins to sound like
Edith Wharton interviewing Henry James. I mean to say, he really does.
Cordially, Lawrence H. Doit.
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| parrthenon@cs.com 2005-03-25, 5:51 pm |
| PARR'S PARODY (Cont.)
<Sloan took an obvious "parody" by Tim Hanke concerning having the
USCF's cash from the sale of the building in New Windsor in the trunk
of his car and included it in his lawsuit as a reason to freeze USCF's
funds.> Randy Bauer
Mr. Bauer is screaming like a stuck pig.
He has repeatedly said that Sam Sloan's lawsuit was totally
frivolous and that the USCF had nothing to fear -- even though Mr.
Bauer himself refused to accept service of a certified letter from the
court.
Now Mr. Bauer fears that Mr. Sloan may use portions of my parody in
the frivolous lawsuit!
This claim is on a par with his claim last October that the USCF was
under no legal pressure to choose Crossville. Yet he recently
contradicted himself by not including legal fees in his estimate of
moving costs on the grounds that NOT going there might have provoked a
costlier lawsuit from Crossville.
When will this bean counter ever get his story straight?
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| Ray Gordon 2005-03-25, 5:51 pm |
| > ED?
quote:
>
> wtf are you talking about?
I was referring to the faith they had in a moderated version of their
newsgroup. Quite hysterical.
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| Randy Bauer 2005-03-25, 5:51 pm |
| In article <1111773063.481956.317270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
parrthenon@cs.com says...
quote:
>
quote:
>
> He has repeatedly said that Sam Sloan's lawsuit was totally
>frivolous and that the USCF had nothing to fear -- even though Mr.
>Bauer himself refused to accept service of a certified letter from the
>court.
This is a lie. I have never refused service of a certified letter from the
court. The only letter I refused service was from Sam Sloan.
Parr cannot keep his stories straight. This is what he wrote about this issue
on December 1, 2004:
"If I were on the USCF Executive Board, I would also refuse a certified letter
from Sam Sloan. Why? Because if I believed his legal suit to be of
ill-informed purpose, my job would be to make Sam's job tough as can be.
I see no reason to criticize Mr. Bauer or any other Board member, given
their own lights, for refusing certified letters from Sam."
How the worm turns. When will this ink slinger get his story straight?
Randy Bauer
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| Italy Anonymous Remailer 2005-03-25, 5:51 pm |
| In article <ZSY0e.85663$534.24468@twister.nyc.rr.com>
"Ray Gordon" <ray@cybersheet.com> wrote:
quote:
>
>
> I was referring to the faith they had in a moderated version of their
> newsgroup. Quite hysterical.
Yet when groups to go the moderated route, everyone seems to find it
a wonderful experience except for Mr. Parker.
In an attempt to eliminate disruption caused by this individual in the
alt.seduction.fast newsgroup, along with spam and misinformation, alt.seduction.fast
now also has a website and discussion forums in which this individual is prevented
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"Italy Anonymous Remailer" <nobody@See.Comments.Header> wrote in message
news:AL0MZ51M38436.8882986111@anonymous.poster...
quote:
>
> Yet when groups to go the moderated route, everyone seems to find it
> a wonderful experience except for Mr. Parker.
>
> In an attempt to eliminate disruption caused by this individual in the
> alt.seduction.fast newsgroup, along with spam and misinformation,
> alt.seduction.fast
> now also has a website and discussion forums in which this individual is
> prevented
> from posting. The website forums have proven extremely popular and
> successful since
> off-topic material and bad behavior is prevented there.
Censorship. You gotta love it.
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| jimeade 2005-03-25, 9:52 pm |
|
I have to figure out to filter Parr and Sloan again. For the record I
did used to regard Parr as a sort of pathetic eccentric of the type
chess players everywhere know. I also used to pay Sloan to do odd jobs
just so that he'd have some money. This is before I learned their true
characters, or lack thereof.
I didn't learn that Parr was a liar until I went to FIDE meetings and
reported on what actually took place there, as opposed to the crock
Parr writes about. Parr also is in the habit of lying about me having
insulted his wife. Never happened.
In the context of Parr defending Sloan sexpploits in Thailand, I
pointed out that Parr had bragged to me of his own. His punch line was
"They liked what I had in my pants. (pause) My passport." Those were
Parr's words to me.
He has become the tool of the old guard, who see their hold on the USCF
slipping. He has no inkling of what a joke he's become.
Does he think I fear him publishing a list of some of my previous
postings? What a crock. The last time, or I think it was the last
time he did so, I asked that, if anyone objected to any of my
characterizations to please e-mail me. No one did. I asked them to
e-mail me, if Parr posted anything worthy of response. I think George
John did once, a long time ago. Otherwise, nothing. He isn't worth
reading or responding to. I'll figure out how to filter his posts
along with Sloan's and a spammer, and maybe this newsgroup will be
usable.
I did publish Arnie's memoirs, but Parr's purple prose makes me hold my
nose. The only time the Denker book breaks down is when Parr's voice
intrudes. He is a good editor and a servicable writer when he controls
himself, but he can't seem to do so very often.
He has placed me on a par with Randy Bauer, and I consider that a nice
compliment. When I was a board member I made myself available on this
forum and answered all reasonable questions from reasonable people.
Randy has done the same thing, and is to be commended for it.
What Parr fails to understand is that he is not the voice of the USCF
membership, nor is he in any way reasonable. That is why Inside Chess,
the ChessCafe and other decent sources of chess journalism turned their
noses up at his rantings. Parr is a sophist, who appeals to the worst
in people. And, he is most certainly dishonest to the core.
Again, for the record, absolutely, I told Yasser f-you. Grown men
sometimes do that, and Parr is acting like a Victorian granny
pretending to be shocked. Yasser deserved it. Absolutely, I have
criticized GM Evans for, among other inanities, claiming that universal
drug testing in tournaments was just around the corner. I've forgotten
how many years have past since he made that preposterous statement in
Chess Life. They shouldn't be held accountable for their statements
and actions, because they are GMs? What kind of nonsense is that?
Parr and Sloan turn off decent people. Why can't they take up poker?
I take that back. I have no quarrel with poker players.
Where were they when the federation was being run into the ground? Why
are they against the obviously necessary and so far successful moves to
save it? Because they are the instruments of the old guard.
| |
| Chess One 2005-03-25, 9:52 pm |
|
"jimeade" <jimeade@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1111794437.149070.327100@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
quote:
>
> I have to figure out to filter Parr and Sloan again. For the record I
> did used to regard Parr as a sort of pathetic eccentric of the type
wait! not so fast - this deserves careful appreciation from the ex-politico
with new buddies in the race...
quote:
> chess players everywhere know. I also used to pay Sloan to do odd jobs
> just so that he'd have some money. This is before I learned their true
> characters, or lack thereof.
There you go. What do millionaires think of the rest of us?
quote:
> I didn't learn that Parr was a liar until I went to FIDE meetings and
> reported on what actually took place there, as opposed to the crock
> Parr writes about. Parr also is in the habit of lying about me having
> insulted his wife. Never happened.
Ha! I suppose you never told Seirawan to f*** off either? Or ignored
Benjamin's letter in CL, thinking all the time you knew what was better for
Gms than they knew themselves...
quote:
> In the context of Parr defending Sloan sexpploits in Thailand, I
> pointed out that Parr had bragged to me of his own. His punch line was
> "They liked what I had in my pants. (pause) My passport." Those were
> Parr's words to me.
How glad I never shared what I had in my - er - kilt. Its a Scot's thing: if
a woman asks what you wear beneath you tell her to take a look, if a man ask
you, depending on your genreral inclination to men, knock the sucker on his
arse.
quote:
> He has become the tool
Ha! tool - ooooo 
quote:
> of the old guard, who see their hold on the USCF
> slipping. He has no inkling of what a joke he's become.
he does see something slipping, that's for sure. The question I always pose
Lawrence H. Parr is this; why he thinks he can sway all you young things
away from your course, since you are so obviously dead-on-arrival as I might
paraphrase Kasparov. Lawrence-san has the same attitude to Fide - he still
thinks one can appease dictators - his friend The Other Larry knows better.
quote:
> Does he think I fear him publishing a list of some of my previous
> postings? What a crock. The last time, or I think it was the last
> time he did so, I asked that, if anyone objected to any of my
> characterizations to please e-mail me. No one did. I asked them to
> e-mail me, if Parr posted anything worthy of response. I think George
> John did once, a long time ago. Otherwise, nothing. He isn't worth
> reading or responding to. I'll figure out how to filter his posts
> along with Sloan's and a spammer, and maybe this newsgroup will be
> usable.
Its all about you, isn't it Jim?
quote:
> I did publish Arnie's memoirs, but Parr's purple prose makes me hold my
> nose. The only time the Denker book breaks down is when Parr's voice
> intrudes. He is a good editor and a servicable writer when he controls
> himself, but he can't seem to do so very often.
Nevertheless, this is one of the best books of insight into the psychology
of chess players, as revealed by their actual lives that has been written.
Not that any objective appreciation need intrude into this affair...
quote:
> He has placed me on a par with Randy Bauer, and I consider that a nice
> compliment. When I was a board member I made myself available on this
> forum and answered all reasonable questions from reasonable people.
> Randy has done the same thing, and is to be commended for it.
Randy is the most devious poster in an almost-offical position to ever
appear before us. He apologises for stuff he doesn't even know yet. In 59
billion posts he relays no facts. But perhaps this is what is laudatory in
your opinion?
quote:
> What Parr fails to understand is that he is not the voice of the USCF
> membership, nor is he in any way reasonable. That is why Inside Chess,
> the ChessCafe and other decent sources of chess journalism turned their
> noses up at his rantings.
Chesscafe turn their nose up at any criticism whatever of their current
material. Winter can write 25 criticisms of Evans, and Evans can't write one
message in return.
I wrote to Hanon to, for God sake, restrain Short et al, from writing shit
about the dead Tony Miles, since Tony can't reply, and there is an
undisclosed mutual girlfriend, and our Nigel is less than frank.
It stopped - but my letter was not published. Only the idea of a counter
series of letters elsewhere seems to have had an effect.
For god's sake! This site sole-sourced the KGB on Russian players.
quote:
> Parr is a sophist, who appeals to the worst
> in people. And, he is most certainly dishonest to the core.
>
> Again, for the record, absolutely, I told Yasser f-you.
You didn't just tell him, you told him as his representative. His Fide
representative.
quote:
> Grown men
> sometimes do that, and Parr is acting like a Victorian granny
> pretending to be shocked. Yasser deserved it.
Did he though? He was resenting drug testing at the time. Which tends to
open the debate: if all players subject to drug testing are against it, and
the delegates of USCF specifically instruct the Fide representative [you] to
be againt it, why are you telling America's leading grandmaster, in a nasty
e-mail campaign, to go XXXX himself?
quote:
> Absolutely, I have
> criticized GM Evans for, among other inanities, claiming that universal
> drug testing in tournaments was just around the corner. I've forgotten
> how many years have past since he made that preposterous statement in
> Chess Life. They shouldn't be held accountable for their statements
> and actions, because they are GMs? What kind of nonsense is that?
It s the nonsense that has so far prevented 'representatives' like you from
introducing drug testing to the USA.
quote:
> Parr and Sloan turn off decent people. Why can't they take up poker?
> I take that back. I have no quarrel with poker players.
>
> Where were they when the federation was being run into the ground? Why
> are they against the obviously necessary and so far successful moves to
> save it? Because they are the instruments of the old guard.
What high school-like rhetoric. US chess is dying.
This shit, which distances both players and people who have been around the
block will have no effect except to sugest to gullible newbies that a new
cult of secrecy is not milking the federation, but has a secret plan which
will save it... and the plan must remain secret in case people spoil it,
didn't everyone see the cool California movie of Buffy the Vampire Slayer?
Trash, from start to finish.
Phil Innes
| |
|
|
"Chess One" <innes8@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:df21e.24753$ed6.23698@trndny06...
quote:
> How glad I never shared what I had in my - er - kilt. Its a Scot's thing:
> if a woman asks what you wear beneath you tell her to take a look, if a
> man ask you, depending on your genreral inclination to men, knock the
> sucker on his arse.
I've heard the reason Scotsmen wear kilts is because zippers scare the
sheep.
| |
| Randy Bauer 2005-03-25, 9:52 pm |
|
"Chess One" <innes8@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:df21e.24753$ed6.23698@trndny06...
quote:
>
> "jimeade" <jimeade@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1111794437.149070.327100@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Randy is the most devious poster in an almost-offical position to ever
> appear before us. He apologises for stuff he doesn't even know yet. In 59
> billion posts he relays no facts. But perhaps this is what is laudatory in
> your opinion?
I've worked in politics and government for almost 20 years. One of the
things a wise former Senate President taught me is that if you're agitating
the flakes (Sloan, Parr, Innes), you're probably doing just fine.
Randy Bauer
| |
| parrthenon@cs.com 2005-03-26, 3:50 am |
| ANOTHER NON-ANSWER
<I've worked in politics and government for almost 20 years. One of
the things a wise former Senate President taught me is that if you're
agitating the flakes (Sloan, Parr, Innes), you're probably doing just
fine.> Randy Bauer
We still do not have the cost estimates of the move to Cross-to-Bear.
Instead, we have a new front opening on this little chess battlefield.
Jim Eade has joined us in his inimitable
faux-soldier-of-fortune-tough-guy tone, and I will be responding
elsewhere.
Randy Bauer has accused me -- but then unaccused me of quoting
him seriously. I wrote a brief few lines that I called a "parody" and
which David Ames correctly calls sarcasm.
In any event every reader here, including most definitely Randy
Bauer,
understood that I was mocking the kind of boring junk that will occupy
our chess politicians at their proposed official news channel at
ChessNinja.
Mr. Bauer saw a chance and tried to say I falsely attributed a
quotation to him, though in the very same message he contradicted
himself by stating that Sam Sloan takes these pieces of invention and
uses them in lawsuits. So now we have a new standard: be silent because
what you say might be used in court!
To which my response is, "So what?"
I am not responsible for what others make of parody or, more
accurately, sarcasm. Mr. Bauer has reached the point where he makes a
claim in one
section of a messagae and then retracts it in another section and later
messages. His ploy is to deflect attention away from the suppressed
cost estimates of the move to Cross-to-Bear.
He does not want you to ask whether Harry Sabine knew of the
$60,000 contract given to a possible friend in Cross-to-Bear and kept
his Tennessee trap shut at the Federation's expense. He does not want
you to think about why it fell to this dirt farmer to tell you the
truth and force renegotiation of the contract, whilst the Board
suppressed the information. He does not want you to compare his
statement in October in which he stated was no little chance of legal
action and that the Board was unworried -- he does not want you to
compare this statement with his claim a few days back that he left
legal costs off his personal estimates of the move to Cross-to-Bear
because of the still larger legal costs that would have ensued if the
Federation were not to move.
Mr. Bauer lied. He couldn't keep his lies straight over a
matter of months. Hence the latest ploy and name calling from the man
to distract attention from the real costs of relocating when such a
move was unnecessary to begin with.
| |
| parrthenon@cs.com 2005-03-26, 3:50 am |
| <Larry, FYI, Jim Eade is not the moderator of this board, ChessNinja's
moderators are. That said, Jim's thread was nuked, so I created a
replacement. It is currently being researched why the thread was
nuked..> George John
George,
By "nuked," you mean one can no longer access it? How do I go
to your replacement thread so that I may quickly be banned from the new
official news channel?
You will notice that Jim Eade has returned, offering us his
inimitable style. I will be reposting my "Bestiary Eadiensis."
Perhaps you will condescend to read it over. It is a day-by-day
account of our Jim attacking GM Larry Evans as "a bitter old man" for
opposing FIDE's drug testing and telling GM Yasser "F-you" for siding
with GM Evans.
Jim's screeds either reflect a forceful purveyor of whatever he
claims to purvey or the howling of someone who has been skewered in too
many passages of arms.
| |
| George John 2005-03-26, 3:50 am |
| Larry,
By "nuked" I mean it is as if it were never there. Why this happened I
do not know, nor does Jim, nor does the moderator who responded when I
asked. He said he would research why, but I have not heard back from
him.
The URL to the new thread is
http://www.chessninja.com/cgi-bin/u...ic;f=8;t=000119
I will not "nuke" the thread I started. Should it disappear or
anyone's post under it, that will because a ChessNinja moderator chose
to do so.
Best regards,
George John
| |
| parrthenon@cs.com 2005-03-26, 3:50 am |
| Eade calls Parr instrument of Old Guard
Jim writes below that he is once again figuring out how to avoid
reading my internet postings. There have been several persons who have
received this treatment, including Yasser Seirawan, a the one thing I
can't understand is why he is always
filtering us out AFTER having filtered us out.
I assume that like a putative health food advocate who furtively drives
to another town to eat at McDonald's, our Jim is a McParr junk food
junkie. He simply can't stay away from my intellectual McNuggets and
the cheesiness in my undercooked (or overcooked) McBurgers. He should
just admit this addiction rather than being a big McChicken about it.
Jim is always explaining that he has better things to do with his time
than to address anything hat could come from my keyboard. Yet he has
spent an inordinate amount of time boring himself in this pursuit,
ostensibly because of a selfless devotion to chess, as he would have
it.
As readers will see in the Bestiary Eadiensis to be reposted shortly,
he changes his mind often on the subject because he promised there to
pound and pound and destroy my advocacy. But then he filtered me out,
except that he is always trying to figure out how to filter me out.
Still, he wants to filter me out. He does filter me out. Then he
returns to tell us that he will filter me out. Which is to say, once he
figures out how to filter me out.
At times, Jim's advocacy sounds like one of those old L &M menthol
cigarette commercials. See below for further comments by me in extended
brackets.
quote:
>I have to figure out to filter Parr and Sloan again. For the record I
did used to regard Parr as a sort of pathetic eccentric of the type
chess players everywhere know. I also used to pay
Sloan to do odd jobs just so that he'd have some money. This is before
I learned their true characters, or lack thereof.>
[[[[[Jim is never one to impart meaning clearly. For the record, he has
never paid me to do an odd job. The tactic here, which Randy Bauer has
now taken up in another posting, is to equate this writer with Sam
Sloan. The hope is that you will forget that you have not yet seen the
suppressed cost estimates of the move o Cross-to-Bear. I would also
note that Jim, in spite of his largesse with Sam Sloan, does not pay
the private school tuition for my children, though as readers will see
in my "Bestiary Eadiensis," he was certainly upset that they were
attending a British curriculum school.]]]]]
quote:
>I didn't learn that Parr was a liar until I went to FIDE meetings and
reported on what actually took place there, as opposed to the crock
Parr writes about. Parr also is in the habit of lying about me having
insulted his wife. Never happened.>
[[[[[Concerning the episode with my wife, readers are asked to consult
my "Bestiary Eadiensis." Even an individual who was in frequent
agreement with Jim, caught our lad's clear implication. Jim favors drug
testing, and he did not like the reports of Larry
Evans and myself about what Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, a killer and torturer,
was doing in FIDE. Mind you, the jars of caviar, the gold Rolexes and
the private tournaments with large prize funds for FIDE officials were
all on the up and up.]]]]]
In the context of Parr defending Sloan sexpploits in Thailand, I
pointed out that Parr had bragged to me of his own. His punch line was
"They liked what I had in my pants. (pause) My passport." Those were
Parr's words to me.>
[[[[[My remark about the American passport was an evident piece of
self-deprecation. I was putting myself down rather than bragging about
anything. Anyone can see that. As for Sam Sloan's exploits, I never
defended a single thing he did. I pointed out that nothing he told us
about is any different and frequently a lot better than what "our
boys," Marines and army men in foreign lands, do on a regular
basis.]]]]]
quote:
>He has become the tool of the old guard, who see their hold on the
USCF slipping. He has no inkling of what a joke he's become.>
[[[[[Here are two interesting, contradictory claims. I am a "tool" of
the old guard, though I am an insightless joke. Whatever tools may be,
they are usually not termed jokes. A hammer is a hammer; a scalpel is a
scalpel. Jim thinks he is saying something important here, whereas he
is haplessly mixing metaphors. Jim could argue that I am a human joke
attempting pitifully to attach myself to the old guard in the hope
they may use me as a tool. That, at least, makes formal sense. What he
has written above is nonsense on its own terms.
Tim Redman, an ally of Jim's, describes himself as a member of the old
guard, one of those "40 Oligarchs." So, unless Jim is accusing Tim of
being a liar, then I am Jim and Tim's tool. SUGGESTION TO JIM: Follow
up on my point here by arguing that I am your unwitting tool, driving
away possible support from the old guard.]]]]]
quote:
>Does he think I fear him publishing a list of some of my previous
postings? What a crock. The last time, or I think it was the last time
he did so, I asked that, if anyone objected to any of my
characterizations to please e-mail me. No one did. I asked them to
e-mail me, if Parr posted anything worthy of response. I think George
John did once, a long time ago. Otherwise, nothing.>
[[[[[Readers will judge for themselves whether Jim's oint means much.
No one bothered with him for quite some time because he went off to his
tent for a most monumental sulk. Yes, I will repost "Bestiary
Eadiensis" because it contains some of Jim's most characteristic
efforts.]]]]]
quote:
>He isn't worth reading or responding to. I'll figure out how to filter
his posts along with Sloan's and a spammer, and maybe this newsgroup
will be usable.>
[[[[[Not worth it; but somehow always worth it. There is something
Buddhist about it.]]]]]
quote:
>I did publish Arnie's memoirs, but Parr's purple prose makes me hold
my nose. The only time the Denker book breaks down is when Parr's voice
intrudes. He is a good editor and a servicable writer when he controls
himself, but he can't seem to do so very often.>
[[[[[The line from someone like Jim is that I injured the 1996 USCF-ACF
Book of the Year. What was a great book would have been a super-great
book otherwise. Back in New York, I have a great deal of correspondence
from Jim in which he writes the precise opposite of what is is now
saying. I will hold on to this posting, and when I take my belongings
out of storage will make a comparison with his claim above and his
claims in correspondence with me. Which will be when Jim manages to
filter me out once again.]]]]]
quote:
>He has placed me on a par with Randy Bauer, and I consider that a nice
compliment. When I was a board member I made myself available on this
forum and answered all reasonable questions from reasonable people.
Randy has done the same thing, and is to be commended for it.>
[[[[[I think Jim should feel complimented to be placed on the same
level as Randy Bauer. It was meant to be a compliment or, more
accurately, a complement.]]]]]
quote:
>What Parr fails to understand is that he is not the voice of the USCF
membership, nor is he in any way reasonable. That is why Inside Chess,
the ChessCafe and other decent sources of chess journalism turned their
noses up at his rantings. Parr is a sophist, who appeals to the worst
in people. And, he is most certainly dishonest to the core.>
[[[[[For the record, I wrote several articles for Inside Chess until a
quarrel with Yasser Seirawan. My writing has appeared in Chess Life
very often, including this month's cover story; in Chess (the magazine
edited by Jimmy Adams in England), in German magazines and elsewhere.
It is true I am banned at ChessCafe, along with Larry Evans, Times of
London correspondent Ray Keene and a number of others. So are our
books.]]]]]
quote:
>Again, for the record, absolutely, I told Yasser f-you. Grown men
sometimes do that, and Parr is acting like a Victorian granny
pretending to be shocked. Yasser deserved it. Absolutely, I have
criticized GM Evans for, among other inanities, claiming that universal
drug testing in tournaments was just around the corner. I've forgotten
how many years have past since he made that preposterous statement in
Chess Life. They shouldn't be held accountable for their statements and
actions, because they are GMs? What kind of nonsense is that?>
[[[[[Jim referred to Larry Evans as this bitter old man (see "Bestiary
Eadiensis") a claim that even Tim Redman, a close ally of Jim's, found
too foul. Tim had been entertained by Larry and his artist wife Ingrid
and found them to be successful, charming peple. To his credit, Tim
contradicted Jim publicly. Jim's bile went beyond what even his llies
could stomach.
As for drug testing, FIDE is ow trying to enforce out of competition
testing for 40 of the top ranked players.
Jim claims that Larry Evans argued that universal drug testing in chess
was "just around the corner." That is Jim's dishonest strawman. Evans
stated that unless opposed, FIDE will be seeking such drug testing.
Thus far, FIDE continues creeping in this direction, which would have
been leaping except for authentic resistance to the irrational practice
of creating a problem where none exists. It is precisely the opposition
of respected GMs like Evans and the Association of Chess Professionals
that has stymied FIDE's attempt to impose testing whenever and wherever
it pleases.]]]]]
quote:
>Parr and Sloan turn off decent people. Why can't they take up poker? I
take that back. I have no quarrel with poker players.>
[[[[[Here we have that wonderful technique of equating this writer with
Sam Sloan. I can't be faulted as a parent (though Jim tried) and my
economic status is likely better than Sam's. The hope here is you will
forget that you still have not seen the
suppressed detailed cost estimates of the move to Cross-to-Bear. Has
the new building now skyrocketted from $300,000 to some $650,000?
Fohgeddaboudit!
Sam Sloan and Larry Evans need to go back to poker except -- and how
witty -- Jim has nothing against poker players. Pitiful stuff, in
truth.]]]]]
quote:
>Where were they when the federation was being run into the ground? Why
are they against the obviously necessary and so far successful moves to
save it? Because they are the instruments of the old guard.>
[[[[[More dishonesty. Jim knows EXACTLY where I was during the years
"when the federaton was being run into the ground." I was supporting
Tom Dorsch TO THE HILT when he was USCF treasurer. I was conducting a
running battle with Mike Cavallo, the absentee executive director. Mike
might have made a great leader, but he could not do so from afar. I was
deeply shocked and wrote repeatedly about this shock when I learned he
was not working in the office itself. Every office needs to have a head
bastard in it. It was Don Schultz's fault for failing to appreciate
this point. You need someone like an Al Lawrence to keep the troops
stepping lightly.
But unlike Jim, I also attacked the Redman administration which made
equally bad hires. I played no favorites at all. None.
Once again: I backed Tom Dorsch TO THE HILT in his battle when he was
treasurer. I never dissented from his views on the money problems
because I figured he was -- quite distressingly -- absolutely correct.
And where was GM Evans? He was mounting a successful defense against
"old guardist" Don Schultz's $21 million lawsuit for slander.]]]]]
__________________________________________________
| |
| Randy Bauer 2005-03-26, 3:51 am |
| In article <1111806890.625905.120680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
parrthenon@cs.com says...
quote:
>
>ANOTHER NON-ANSWER
>
><I've worked in politics and government for almost 20 years. One of
>the things a wise former Senate President taught me is that if you're
>agitating the flakes (Sloan, Parr, Innes), you're probably doing just
>fine.> Randy Bauer
>
> We still do not have the cost estimates of the move to Cross-to-Bear.
> Instead, we have a new front opening on this little chess battlefield.
> Jim Eade has joined us in his inimitable
>faux-soldier-of-fortune-tough-guy tone, and I will be responding
>elsewhere.
Once again, Larry Parr, when his lies are exposed, simply doubles the number of
words he writes. He thinks you'll forget. I'm tired, once again, of Parr not
taking responsibility for his lies, so I'll no longer respond to him.
Last post he lied that I refused service on a court document. Turns out it was
a Sam Sloan document -- gee, that's a close miss, right?
Of course, he also criticizes me for doing so. When I quote LARRY PARR saying
that is what should be expected... well, of course, he ignores the fact and goes
off on another rant.
I'm done with him. If he starts attacking me again, I'll simply point out his
past lies.
Randy Bauer
quote:
>
> Randy Bauer has accused me -- but then unaccused me of quoting
>him seriously. I wrote a brief few lines that I called a "parody" and
>which David Ames correctly calls sarcasm.
>
> In any event every reader here, including most definitely Randy
>Bauer,
> understood that I was mocking the kind of boring junk that will occupy
>our chess politicians at their proposed official news channel at
>ChessNinja.
>
> Mr. Bauer saw a chance and tried to say I falsely attributed a
>quotation to him, though in the very same message he contradicted
>himself by stating that Sam Sloan takes these pieces of invention and
>uses them in lawsuits. So now we have a new standard: be silent because
>what you say might be used in court!
>
>
> To which my response is, "So what?"
>
> I am not responsible for what others make of parody or, more
>accurately, sarcasm. Mr. Bauer has reached the point where he makes a
>claim in one
>section of a messagae and then retracts it in another section and later
>messages. His ploy is to deflect attention away from the suppressed
>cost estimates of the move to Cross-to-Bear.
>
> He does not want you to ask whether Harry Sabine knew of the
>$60,000 contract given to a possible friend in Cross-to-Bear and kept
>his Tennessee trap shut at the Federation's expense. He does not want
>you to think about why it fell to this dirt farmer to tell you the
>truth and force renegotiation of the contract, whilst the Board
>suppressed the information. He does not want you to compare his
>statement in October in which he stated was no little chance of legal
>action and that the Board was unworried -- he does not want you to
>compare this statement with his claim a few days back that he left
>legal costs off his personal estimates of the move to Cross-to-Bear
>because of the still larger legal costs that would have ensued if the
>Federation were not to move.
>
> Mr. Bauer lied. He couldn't keep his lies straight over a
>matter of months. Hence the latest ploy and name calling from the man
>to distract attention from the real costs of relocating when such a
>move was unnecessary to begin with.
>
| |
| Spam Scone 2005-03-26, 6:51 am |
|
Chess One wrote:
quote:
>
> There you go. What do millionaires think of the rest of us?
If a millionaire is interested in a chance to sponsor a chess
historian's research....
(Snip Innes writing about "arse" and "tool".)
I'll figure out how to filter his posts
quote:
>
> Its all about you, isn't it Jim?
As opposed to screaming Vermont fops?
quote:
hold my[vbcol=seagreen]
voice[vbcol=seagreen]
controls[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Nevertheless, this is one of the best books of insight into the
psychology
quote:
> of chess players, as revealed by their actual lives that has been
written.
quote:
> Not that any objective appreciation need intrude into this affair...
>
nice[vbcol=seagreen]
this[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Randy is the most devious poster in an almost-offical position to
ever
quote:
> appear before us.
No, there's a former unofficial frontman for Shahcom that holds the
lead.
He apologises for stuff he doesn't even know yet. In 59
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> billion posts he relays no facts. But perhaps this is what is
laudatory in
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> your opinion?
>
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> Chesscafe turn their nose up at any criticism whatever of their
current
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> material.
Not so.
Winter can write 25 criticisms of Evans, and Evans can't write one
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> message in return.
Which explains the Larry Evans response to Winter at Chess Cafe?
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> I wrote to Hanon to, for God sake, restrain Short et al, from writing
shit
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> about the dead Tony Miles, since Tony can't reply, and there is an
> undisclosed mutual girlfriend, and our Nigel is less than frank.
What in the hell does Chess Cafe have to do with writers who don't
write for them? Nigel Short has never been a CC columnist or regular
contributor.
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> It stopped - but my letter was not published.
I can think of a reason why, but I'm trying to be polite.
Only the idea of a counter
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> series of letters elsewhere seems to have had an effect.
Where/what was this?
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> For god's sake! This site sole-sourced the KGB on Russian players.
Why are you sole-sourcing Moron Tomic for your accusation?
(Snip Cornish Hen hysteria.)
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| Spam Scone 2005-03-26, 6:51 am |
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Randy Bauer wrote:
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> "Chess One" <innes8@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:df21e.24753$ed6.23698@trndny06...
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>
> I've worked in politics and government for almost 20 years. One of
the
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> things a wise former Senate President taught me is that if you're
agitating
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> the flakes (Sloan, Parr, Innes), you're probably doing just fine.
>
> Randy Bauer
Yes, but better to agitate them by actions rather than endless debate.
And yes, I should follow my own advice.
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| Spam Scone 2005-03-26, 6:51 am |
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jimeade wrote:
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> I did publish Arnie's memoirs, but Parr's purple prose makes me hold
my
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> nose. The only time the Denker book breaks down is when Parr's voice
> intrudes. He is a good editor and a servicable writer when he
controls
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> himself, but he can't seem to do so very often.
Jim, I think the Denker/Parr book is wonderful, although I could
quibble about this and that. We should be grateful Larry Parr worked
with Denker. Now if we could get Larry Evans to write his autobiography
with him....
Neil Brennen
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| parrthenon@cs.com 2005-03-26, 6:51 am |
| <Winter can write 25 criticisms of Evans, and Evans can't write one
message in return.> Phil Innes
<Which explains the | | |