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Author Re: Crossville Move April Chess Life Article
George John

2005-03-18, 5:50 pm

parrthenon@cs.com wrote:

Larry,

[SNIP]
quote:

> Another interesting development in lieu of answering the
> questions of members: George John, a member of a slate backing the
> current Board majority, is suddenly offering us an estimate of what a
> building with five thousand square feet ought to cost in

..=2E.Knoxville,
quote:

> Tennessee.


I have repeatedly called for a Crossville move "white paper" including
budget numbers. I was told there would be a Crossville move article in
the April "Chess Life", but had no details what that article would
contain until yesterday. It thought it might have budget numbers, it
did not.

Since budget numbers are not forthcoming at this time, I decided to
initiate on my own a process where we might attempt to estimate the
cost ourselves. I did a Google search for a construction cost
calculator and used the first one I found. Since it didn't provide
numbers for Crossville, I used Knoxville, which in the same state.
quote:

> Another typical ploy.


Let me assure you this was not intended as a ploy. I want a reasonble
budget published, because in general I strongly support transparency
(or openness) in our governance. The April "Chess Life" article is
helpful, but not sufficient, IMO.
quote:

> [SNIP] and now a political candidate
> offering us nformation NOT about the proposed USCF structure in
> Tennessee (oh no, not that!) but his understanding of what a building
> OUGHT to cost in ... Knoxville.


If I could have offered an estimate in Crossville, I would have done
so. Knoxville is the best I could find. I thought this information
might be a good starting point in a discussion of how much this
building might cost to build, hoping that the cost differences between
Crossville and Knoxville might not be greatly different (but, they
could be).
quote:

> TRANSLATION: Fohgeddaboud the approx. 12,000 square foot
> building in New Windsor that we sold for $515,000 and be thankful

that
quote:

> in "low-expense" Tennessee you can get a replacement of 4,000 square
> feet (the current plan, as I understand it)


Let me correct part of your understanding please, the April "Chess
Life" article, as currently posted on the USCF Website, shows 4996
sq-ft, and not 4000. It is about 25% larger than your number.
quote:

> for about $500,000
> according to Mr. John's numbers,


The numbers I posted were:

$319,000 Low
$373,000 Median
$494,000 High

They were estimated using software found at
http://www.buildingjournal.com=AD/c...-estimating.asp

Your $500,000 number is a bit over the high estimate. I do not know
how accurate these estimates are, and that is why I asked for those who
have expertise in this area to comment.
quote:

> which vary from those of Board
> members.


What have our Board members told us about the building costs? Please
give your source so that I may verify it.
quote:

> But never mind: Members don't need to know about these
> things because we have someone telling us what a building less than
> half the size of the New Windsor facility may or may not cost in ...
> Knoxville.


A building half the size may be highly desirable. For example, it
should take considerably less money to heat, and maintain.

IMO, our layout in New Windsor was far from ideal. With new
construction you get what you want. I wonder how much that translates
into productivity gains? This could be a significant benefit.

[SNIP]

Best regards,

George John

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