| Gunsberg 2005-02-28, 5:50 pm |
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Hans J=F8rgen Lassen wrote:
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> "Dan-the-K" wrote:
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> Well, at least you could try. I do not find the remarks by ChessBase
> improper, offensive or anti-semitic. To describe Fischer's opinions
one does
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> not have to share them. You seem to think that describing an
anti-American,
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> anti-Israeli or anti-Jewish point of view is in itself wrong. Why?
Fischer
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> does in fact have these opinions, and it is these opinions that have
brought
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> him in jail, not his chessplaying in Serbia in 1992.
Actually, from the mid 1990s, Fischer had many radio interviews on
Radio Bomba and other stations (about 2 dozen ?), most of which focused
opprobrium on the Jews. For at least half a dozen years, nothing was
done by the US Government. It should be appreciated that the Executive
branch has wide latitude on how to approachg a case such as this, and
it appears that the Clinton Administration did give Fischer's
activities in Sertbia [OR his very publicized Anti-Jewish comments]
much importance. Things changed after 1/20/2001 (when Bush was
inaugurated) and even more after 9/11/2001.
Fischer had been spewing Anti-Jewish venom for years, and this was
well known in the chess community. However, it was only after "9/11",
when he praised the attack, that the US Chess Federation decided to
revoke Fischer's honorary Life Membership. It can be inferred that
Fischer's 9/11 comments was the crucial event that led to Fischer's
punishment by the USCF. Likewise, it is reasonable to infer that a
desire to punish Fischer for his anti-Jewish stances was not a major or
determining motivation to seek his extradition.
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> Is it? Why? Is it also inflammatory to speak about Holocaust?
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> By the way: Fischer is right in this one thing, that the US over the
years
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> have supported Israel in their oppression of the Palestinians. And
the US
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> never did one thing to make Israel conform to UN resolutions,
although the
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> US had the power to to do so, on the contrary.
To be fair, the US has been very selective in making countries
conform to UN resolutions. Aside from the case of Iraq, the US has
shown very little inclination to make other countries conform to UN
resolutions.
It is important to point out that the mechanics of the UN are such
that UN resolutions are often passed more on the basis of political
expediency, rather than on the basis of genuine merit. In this regard,
a pariah nation such as Israel is an easy mark. Putting aside the fact
that the Permanent 5 (the USA, Russia, China, UK, and France) are
virtually immune from UN censure or resolution, it is also a fact
Muslim (and especially, Arab) nations) are given relatively light
treatment within the UN, simply because of sheer numbers. There are
about 2 dozen Arab countries (most of which are guilty of behavior that
could merit a UN Resolution). The Islamic Bloc of UN members is larger
and more influential, yet. As a result, the generation of UN
resulutions is highly skewed. It is clear that were it not for the
understanding that the anti-Israel UN resolutions were symbolic in
nature, there is much less of a liklihood that they would get passed. I
suspect that many nations (outside of the Arab/Muslim sphere) would be
chagrined if the Anti-Israel resolutions were "resolutely"
enforced--even those nations that voted for the resolutions.
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> This is not what ChessBase is doing. ChessBase is reporting that
Fischer is
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> of the firm opinion (right or wrong, this is not the question here)
that
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> Jews have a great and bad influence in the US. ChessBase is not at
all
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> discussing the question of Jewish influence in the US.
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> ChessBase does not assert things like that.
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> Whats wrong with opening a hornet's nest? But in fact ChessBase does
not
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> even ask that question; if they did, I am sure they would get
spanked, and
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> maybe it would even be illegal in Germany which has very strict laws
> concerning such matters.
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> HansJ
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