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Desperate Times at US Chess Live
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| NyMan05 2005-02-18, 9:48 pm |
| Today, I received a spam from Chess Live announcing a sale on their
paid membership - up to 80% off. You can now buy 3 years of less than I
paid for one year of membership back when it first started.
I will ask the obvious question: who in their right mind actually
believes that Chess Live will be around in 3 years???
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>From what I hear, it ran out of money a long time ago and got rid off
its paid staff. Mr. Berez is the only one left.
A word to the wise: If Chess Live owes you any money, you better not
wait around and hope they pay it. I am stilled owed nearly $200.00 from
Friday Night Blitz Prizes from 2002! And I know there are many others
who are owed money. And they wonder why Grandmasters avoid the place
like the plague.
If this isn't a going out of business sale, I don't know what is..
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| CRuderman 2005-02-18, 9:48 pm |
| How long ago has this server been in business? I hate to see any
company going out of business but if what you said is true then it does
not sound good. I hope you will get your prizes. Good luck.
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| When will this stop? One new HA, djud kicked out, alrightnow sucked his
way back to A, BarbaraVilliers banned, Arclight; a good friend of the
Truong family as HA, ManOfStyle; ChessTactics; ICM; AmsterDoom; Truong;
SusanPolgar; same person? An answer would be really helpful now.
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| Gunsberg 2005-02-20, 9:47 pm |
| Not a surprise. Chess Live failed to get critical mass, and is dying
on the vine. Really, the chess server niche is rather small, and ICC
has become the Wal-Mart that monopolizes business.
I won't be sad to see Chess Live fold, if it does. From accounts
that I've read, it exploited both the USCF membership, AND the USCF
itself.
Players may join up with chess servers that compete with ICC, but
eventually they realize that the ICC offers a better "product", and
they switch. It is lamentable that ICC thrives, as it ultimately harms
chess on the Internet. However, chess players are nothing, if not
crass, and will naturally seek the best short term deal for themselves,
even if it turns out to be to the detriment of the game.
NyMan05 wrote:
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> Today, I received a spam from Chess Live announcing a sale on their
> paid membership - up to 80% off. You can now buy 3 years of less than
I
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> paid for one year of membership back when it first started.
>
> I will ask the obvious question: who in their right mind actually
> believes that Chess Live will be around in 3 years???
>
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> its paid staff. Mr. Berez is the only one left.
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> A word to the wise: If Chess Live owes you any money, you better not
> wait around and hope they pay it. I am stilled owed nearly $200.00
from
quote:
> Friday Night Blitz Prizes from 2002! And I know there are many others
> who are owed money. And they wonder why Grandmasters avoid the place
> like the plague.
>
> If this isn't a going out of business sale, I don't know what is..
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| David Richerby 2005-02-20, 9:47 pm |
| Gunsberg <gunsberg@kasparovchess.com> wrote:
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> Not a surprise. Chess Live failed to get critical mass, and is dying
> on the vine. Really, the chess server niche is rather small, and ICC
> has become the Wal-Mart that monopolizes business.
Playchess.com seems to be doing rather well for itself, as does FICS.
But it would be very hard for anyone else to attain critical mass.
Dave.
--
David Richerby Hilarious Chainsaw (TM): it's like
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a lethal weapon but it's a bundle
of laughs!
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> When will this stop? One new HA, djud kicked out, alrightnow sucked his
> way back to A, BarbaraVilliers banned, Arclight; a good friend of the
> Truong family as HA, ManOfStyle; ChessTactics; ICM; AmsterDoom; Truong;
> SusanPolgar; same person? An answer would be really helpful now.
Charlie.
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| Dan-the-K 2005-02-21, 3:48 am |
| I haven't yet played on any of these forums, but isn't ChessLive free
(for USCF members) and ICC not free???
Dan
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| Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod) 2005-02-21, 3:48 am |
| Gunsberg:
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> It is lamentable that ICC thrives, as it
> ultimately harms chess on the Internet.
Why? To me ICC provides a ray of hope
for chess in general, and on Internetin particular.
I am considering to go back to ICC :-)
But even as a guest I can still replay nice
GM games, can play a bit myself (without
any rating), etc. ICC offers a nice data base,
robots to practise endings, initeresting
chess lectures, and more.
Many of us are frustrated with years of FIDE
and USCF. But I wonder if the problem of chess
is chess itself. It is rather impressive that chess
over the centuries was doing as well as it did.
It must be its ability to collect the trivia :-)
Regards,
Wlod
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| BarbaraVilliers 2005-02-21, 6:48 am |
| I'm playing on FICS. Although I far prefer the interface of Chess-Live
and I'm having to adjust to a brighter layout. I prefer it to the
interface of ICC. Just want to get my rating level with my Chess-Live
one
BarbaraVilliers
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| David Richerby 2005-02-21, 5:49 pm |
| BarbaraVilliers <louise@cernunos.globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
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> I'm playing on FICS. Although I far prefer the interface of Chess-Live
> and I'm having to adjust to a brighter layout. I prefer it to the
> interface of ICC.
There are many different interfaces you can use with FICS. You can
download several from
http://www.freechess.org/cgi-bin/Do...d_Interface.cgi
and see which you like best.
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> Just want to get my rating level with my Chess-Live one
Remember that ratings only allow you to compare within the group of people
they rate so there's no reason to expect that your FICS and Chess-Live
ratings should be the same number, though they'll probably be quite close.
Dave.
--
David Richerby Broken Salted Windows (TM): it's like
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a graphical user interface but it's
covered in salt and it doesn't work!
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| BarbaraVilliers 2005-02-21, 5:49 pm |
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David Richerby wrote:
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> BarbaraVilliers <louise@cernunos.globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
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> There are many different interfaces you can use with FICS. You can
> download several from
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http://www.freechess.org/cgi-bin/Do...d_Interface.cgi
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> and see which you like best.
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> Remember that ratings only allow you to compare within the group of
people
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> they rate so there's no reason to expect that your FICS and
Chess-Live
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> ratings should be the same number, though they'll probably be quite
close.
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> Dave.
Dave
point taken! however at present there is a huge disgusting discrepancy
LOL
BarbaraVilliers
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> David Richerby Broken Salted Windows (TM):
it's like
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> www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a graphical user interface
but it's
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> covered in salt and it
doesn't work!
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| psychowacko@london.com 2005-02-25, 5:49 pm |
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| Solomondapimp17 2005-02-27, 3:49 am |
| gg, all i can say
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| 64guru@gmail.com 2005-02-27, 3:49 am |
| StanB wrote:
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> "XxXxX" <YCC.webmaster@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1108935775.022432.23430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
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> Charlie.
What's this? Did Barbara Villiers get banned from USCL? Is this true?
What happend? Also, wasn't it the USCF that shot itself in the foot(and
us hopefuls in the foot too) when it started with this ROYAL crap and
extra fee for that and then a limit of games per day for thos who are
not ROYALS? And all this only AS it was possilby approaching critical
mass? What a pity, as the USCL interface seems to be the best i have
used on ANY server. Someone should reverse engineer that bad boy and
make a fics version. Lol.
Botchvin(n)ik
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