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BarbaraVilliers

2005-02-16, 5:50 pm

MilChess
Talking of trolls. I have noticed your new topic. It is highly
unpleasant and designed as a deliberate attack on myself and others
including Aurora who has done you no harm except for the crime of being
my husband.
Is this the way you conduct yourself?
Are you capable of making a reasonable comment without vitriolic
personal attacks!!!!!!
What is your problem?
BarbaraVilliers

MilChess

2005-02-16, 5:50 pm


BarbaraVilliers wrote:
quote:

> MilChess
> Talking of trolls. I have noticed your new topic. It is highly
> unpleasant and designed as a deliberate attack on myself and others
> including Aurora who has done you no harm except for the crime of

being
quote:

> my husband.
> Is this the way you conduct yourself?
> Are you capable of making a reasonable comment without vitriolic
> personal attacks!!!!!!
> What is your problem?
> BarbaraVilliers


Hugs and kisses to you!

Nick

2005-02-17, 3:47 am

BarbaraVilliers wrote (to MilChess):
quote:

> MilChess Talking of trolls. I have noticed your new topic.
> It is highly unpleasant and designed as a deliberate attack
> on myself and others including Aurora who has done you no
> harm except for the crime of being my husband.
> Is this the way you conduct yourself?


'Barbara Villiers', 'welcome' to rec.games.chess.*.
What you have just experienced seems hardly unusual here,
which is *not* to say that I would condone it in any way.

For a recent example, Wlodzimierz Holsztynski has been
writing some sexual insults and lies (of an evidently racist
nature) against me and my father and my mother. (My parents
have no connection whatsoever with the chess newsgroups.)
quote:

> Are you capable of making a reasonable comment without
> vitriolic personal attacks!!!!!! What is your problem?
> BarbaraVilliers


Many male writers (including me) often have been the targets
of 'vitriolic personal attacks'. 'Barbara Villiers', I hope
that you were *not* expecting any preferential treatment on
account of being a woman.

--Nick

BarbaraVilliers

2005-02-17, 6:48 am

Nick
I am sorry you also suffered personal attacks. On the contary I
definitely do not expect preferential treatment for being a woman,
thats not my scene. So this is normal behaviour here. Thankyou for the
warning.
BarbaraVilliers

Jerzy

2005-02-17, 5:50 pm

"BarbaraVilliers" <louise@cernunos.globalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1108629793.333935.96590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
quote:

> Nick
> I am sorry you also suffered personal attacks.


How could it be ? "Nick" is an abstract anonymous entity with no name
created solely for the purpose to insult as many real people here as
possible. Does he have any real name ? Has he any dignity and honour ?
I doubt it.

On the contary I
quote:

> definitely do not expect preferential treatment for being a woman,
> thats not my scene. So this is normal behaviour here. Thankyou for the
> warning.
> BarbaraVilliers


The problem with anonymous "Nick" is that that he is the one who attacks
personally many people here. And such standards of indecent behaviour are
introduced here mostly by him.

If you dare to be of an opinion different from "Nick"`s expect insults from
him like "illiteracy", " trolling" or "dishonesty" not to mention his
lengthy off-topic elaborations :-)


sennajawa@yahoo.com

2005-02-17, 9:48 pm

BarbaraVilliers:
quote:

> I am sorry you [Nick Boobaki :-] also
> suffered personal attacks.


Hi, Barabara,

you must be new to this list. The anonimous
Boobaki is a vicious super-troll and liar, known
for his racial and ethnic prejudices, for prejudices
against older people, and so on. Known for
talking non-stop nonsense about himself.

And before mhe became the butt of the jokes,
he himself was guilty of making highly inappriopiate
sexual remarks. The main point of the jokes was
that Boobaki is a moron, which he is.

You had a hint of his demagogy in his usage
of word "evidently". Instead of sticking to
posts on rgc* and refering to them fairly,
he is full of "evedently" and similar scumback
tricks, distortions, quoting out of context, etc.
His are the most disgusting way of disrupting
a discussion list.
quote:

> On the contary I definitely do not expect
> preferential treatment for being a woman,
> thats not my scene.


But you should! Meritum should be
always treated as logically, reasonably,
fairly etc as possible, regardless of the
gender of the participants. But when it
comes to the style, women should be treated
by men more gently. It is a part of culture,
with centuries behind it. The equal rights,
duties and treatment should relate to things
like equal pay for equal job, etc. but not
to the style of interaction.The gender "small
differences" enrich us and make life more
interesting, contribute to the quality of life.
They should also contribute to the quality
of Internet interactions.

Regards,

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)

BarbaraVilliers

2005-02-18, 6:49 am

Wlodzimerz
I get your point. I enjoy having doors opened for me and other
gentlemanly courtesies paid to me.But then I am happy to sew repairs in
my husband's clothes when they are needed. I am not a strident
femminist but one who enjoys the differences between the genders.
However on a newsgroup such as this I would expect rough handling.
Indeed a fine example comes from the UK congress Sutton 94 where I was
punched in the face by Alec Webster the arbiter and left by a number of
"gentlemen" on the ground unconscious. As a result my husband no longer
allows me to attend a chess event without him being there to protect
me.
The worst part of it all was the puncher trying to lie his way out of
it.
regards
BarbaraVilliers

Mike Murray

2005-02-18, 5:50 pm

On 18 Feb 2005 00:34:39 -0800, "BarbaraVilliers"
<louise@cernunos.globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
quote:

>Indeed a fine example comes from the UK congress Sutton 94 where I was
>punched in the face by Alec Webster the arbiter and left by a number of
>"gentlemen" on the ground unconscious. As a result my husband no longer
>allows me to attend a chess event without him being there to protect
>me.
>The worst part of it all was the puncher trying to lie his way out of
>it.


Did you file criminal charges ?

BarbaraVilliers

2005-02-18, 9:48 pm

Our Police aren't very interested in assault cases, they prefer
motoring offences. Instead my husband riushed down and hit him back.
BarbaraVilliers

sennajawa@yahoo.com

2005-02-21, 3:48 am

BarbaraVilliers:
quote:

> I am sorry you [Nick Boobaki :-] also
> suffered personal attacks.


Hi, Barabara,

you must be new to this list. The anonimous
Boobaki is a vicious super-troll and liar, known
for his racial and ethnic prejudices, for prejudices
against older people, and so on. Known for
talking non-stop nonsense about himself.

And before mhe became the butt of the jokes,
he himself was guilty of making highly inappriopiate
sexual remarks. The main point of the jokes was
that Boobaki is a moron, which he is.

You had a hint of his demagogy in his usage
of word "evidently". Instead of sticking to
posts on rgc* and refering to them fairly,
he is full of "evedently" and similar scumback
tricks, distortions, quoting out of context, etc.
His are the most disgusting way of disrupting
a discussion list.
quote:

> On the contary I definitely do not expect
> preferential treatment for being a woman,
> thats not my scene.


But you should! Meritum should be
always treated as logically, reasonably,
fairly etc as possible, regardless of the
gender of the participants. But when it
comes to the style, women should be treated
by men more gently. It is a part of culture,
with centuries behind it. The equal rights,
duties and treatment should relate to things
like equal pay for equal job, etc. but not
to the style of interaction.The gender "small
differences" enrich us and make life more
interesting, contribute to the quality of life.
They should also contribute to the quality
of Internet interactions.

Regards,

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)

Jerzy

2005-02-24, 6:50 am

"BarbaraVilliers" <louise@cernunos.globalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1108629793.333935.96590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
quote:

> Nick
> I am sorry you also suffered personal attacks.


How could it be ? "Nick" is an abstract anonymous entity with no name
created solely for the purpose to insult as many real people here as
possible. Does he have any real name ? Has he any dignity and honour ?
I doubt it.

On the contary I
quote:

> definitely do not expect preferential treatment for being a woman,
> thats not my scene. So this is normal behaviour here. Thankyou for the
> warning.
> BarbaraVilliers


The problem with anonymous "Nick" is that that he is the one who attacks
personally many people here. And such standards of indecent behaviour are
introduced here mostly by him.

If you dare to be of an opinion different from "Nick"`s expect insults from
him like "illiteracy", " trolling" or "dishonesty" not to mention his
lengthy off-topic elaborations :-)


sennajawa@yahoo.com

2005-02-24, 5:52 pm

BarbaraVilliers:
quote:

> I am sorry you [Nick Boobaki :-] also
> suffered personal attacks.


Hi, Barabara,

you must be new to this list. The anonimous
Boobaki is a vicious super-troll and liar, known
for his racial and ethnic prejudices, for prejudices
against older people, and so on. Known for
talking non-stop nonsense about himself.

And before mhe became the butt of the jokes,
he himself was guilty of making highly inappriopiate
sexual remarks. The main point of the jokes was
that Boobaki is a moron, which he is.

You had a hint of his demagogy in his usage
of word "evidently". Instead of sticking to
posts on rgc* and refering to them fairly,
he is full of "evedently" and similar scumback
tricks, distortions, quoting out of context, etc.
His are the most disgusting way of disrupting
a discussion list.
quote:

> On the contary I definitely do not expect
> preferential treatment for being a woman,
> thats not my scene.


But you should! Meritum should be
always treated as logically, reasonably,
fairly etc as possible, regardless of the
gender of the participants. But when it
comes to the style, women should be treated
by men more gently. It is a part of culture,
with centuries behind it. The equal rights,
duties and treatment should relate to things
like equal pay for equal job, etc. but not
to the style of interaction.The gender "small
differences" enrich us and make life more
interesting, contribute to the quality of life.
They should also contribute to the quality
of Internet interactions.

Regards,

Wlodzimierz Holsztynski (Wlod)

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