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Re: Braunlich's article, "Scholastics and the Soul of Chess" (OT)
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| Tim Hanke wrote:
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> "Mike Murray" <mikemurray@despammed.com> quoted "Nick" as follows ...
The text (above) has been left *exactly* as it was in Tim Hanke's post.
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> It seems Nick did not quote me accurately.
In fact, I was *not quoting* Tim Hanke at all.
*If* I had attempted to quote Tim Hanke, then the text would have
appeared within 'quotation marks', which it did *not* in my post.
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> I did not say there is "no subculture of sexism within chess."
I did *not* write that Tim Hanke said there is 'no subculture
of sexism within chess'.
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> I said I didn't believe that "chess as a subculture" discriminates
> against women. This is quite a different point.
For the record, Tim Hanke wrote (this *is* a quotation):
"...chess clubs, or chess as a subculture, discriminates
in some way against women. I don't believe it."
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> This is quite a different point.
It was unclear to me that Tim Hanke was attempting to make such a
distinction. I interpreted what Tim Hanke wrote as a general denial
of sexism within chess.
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> Put another way, I deny that chessplayers as a group tend to
> discriminate against women,
I do *not* believe that every male chess-player tends to
discriminate *consciously* against women.
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> though some individual chessplayers may. On the contrary,
> I believe that women often get preferential treatment in chess.
Tim Hanke may believe whatever he likes about the supposed general
absence of discrimination against women and girls in chess.
But, as I noted earlier, the 'bottom line' is that quite few
women and girls continue to be active in chess. So what Tim
Hanke believes seems irrelevant, what's relevant is what
most women and girls would perceive about sexism in chess.
--Nick
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