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| "Isidor Gunsberg" wrote:
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> Nick wrote:
Based on the evidence of his previous posts, "Isidor Gunsberg"
(or "Gunsberg" as now he calls himself) is a writer in the chess
newsgroup who evidently finds nothing significantly wrong with
Israel killing Palestinians whenever Israel pleases.
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> What has that to do with whether an Israeli posts information
> about a Go tournament, scheduled to be held in Israel?
I wrote: "Personally, I have no objection to discussing Go with an
Israeli, though I would not prefer to do so in chess newsgroup."
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> The originator of the thread had nothing to say about the
> current geo-political situation in Israel; he merely announced
> that there would be a competetion.
As I wrote to Hans Jorgen Lassen elsewhere in this thread:
"I found nothing wrong with the originating post in this thread
beyond that it created an undeclared off-topic thread."
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> It is a huge stretch to infer anything about the attitude of the
> original poster, with regard to the acceptablitity of killing
> Palestinians.
Gunsberg's presumption about my intent is wrong.
I made no inference whatsoever about what the writer who
created this thread may or may not believe about that.
But that conclusion seems well-justified in the case of
"Isidor Gunsberg", given his record of previous posts here.
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> For the record, I think that Israel has the right to kill
> Palestinian militants, who directly engage in violence, or who plan
> attacks, or who provide leadership to groups that engage in violence.
In every case that I can recall now, "Isidor Gunsberg" has
consistently attempted to 'justify' the killing of Palestinian
civilians, including children, by Israelis.
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> Yeah, NOW. But what would have been the Inuit population,
> if not for the Centuries of exploitative and oppressive
> occupation by Denmark.
Gunsberg's attempted comparison between living conditions
in Greenland and those in the West Bank and Gaza Strip
is ludicrous. Greenland never has had a large population.
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> In contrast, the size of the population of Palestinian
> Arabs has veritably exploded since 1967. Clearly, the
> Palestinians have been thriving under the Israelis (with
> huge increases in Life Expectancy, Literacy, and Educational
> Attainment), whilst the Inuits have been languishing.
"Gunsberg" likes to recite his favourite 'hasbara'
(Israeli propaganda), however ludicrous it may be.
None of the Palestinians of my acquaintance (whether Muslim,
Christian, or atheist) believe that they 'been thriving
under the Israelis'.
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> Yes, indeed there are "many" Palestinian Christians in the
> West Bank and Gaza. About 50,000 of them. This amounts to
> about 2 percent of the total Palestinian Arab population.
That's a false statement by "Isidor Gunsberg".
As I recall, it's generally accepted that at least
ten percent of the Palestinians are Christians.
There's a summary of a demographic survey of the Palestinians
in 'Blaming the Victims: Spurious Scholarship and the Palestinian
Question' edited by Edward Said and Christopher Hitchens.
(I lack access to that source as I write this post.)
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> Lassen has expressed no concern over the treatment of the
> Palestinian Christians in the West Bank and Gaza, BY the
> Palestinian Muslim majority. In fact, there has been much
> internecine violence amongst various Palestinian factions,
> and this has probably accounted for even more deaths than
> have occurred at the hands of the Israelis. ...
That's another false statement by "Isidor Gunsberg".
Palestinian Christians tend to be just as much opposed as
Palestinian Muslims to their continuing oppression by Israel.
By the way, in the 1980s Israel had secretly encouraged
the rise of Hamas as a rival to the Palestine Liberation
Organisation (PLO).
"The incapacity of the United States to see Arabs as other
human beings is consistent with the ebbing of universalism
within American society."
--Emmanuel Todd (After the Empire, p. 118)
--Nick
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