| Gunsberg 2004-12-25, 6:45 am |
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Nick wrote:
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> "Isidor Gunsberg" wrote (to Hans Jorgen Lassen):
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> Some writers in the chess newgroups evidently find nothing
> significantly wrong with Israel killing Palestinians (etc.
> as in Hans Jorgen Lassen's comment) whenever Israel pleases.
What has that to do with whether an Israeli posts information about
a Go tournament, scheduled to be held in Israel? The originator of the
thread had nothing to say about the current geo-political situation in
Israel; he merely announced that there would be a competetion. It is a
huge stretch to infer anything about the attitude of the original
poster, with regard to the acceptablitity of killing Palestinians.
For the record, I think that Israel has the right to kill
Palestinian militants, who directly engage in violence, or who plan
attacks, or who provide leadership to groups that engage in violence.
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> Personally, I have no objection to discussing Go with an Israeli,
> though I would not prefer to do so in a chess newsgroup.
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> But Greenland has fewer people than the number of Palestinians
> who must live now under Israel's military occupation.
Yeah, NOW. But what would have been the Inuit population, if not
for the Centuries of exploitative and oppressive occupation by Denmark.
In contrast, the size of the population of Palestinian Arabs has
veritably exploded since 1967. Clearly, the Palestinians have been
thriving under the Israelis (with huge increases in Life Expectancy,
Literacy, and Educational Attainment), whilst the Inuits have been
languishing.
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> In fact, many Palestinian Arabs, including some of the most
influential
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> (such as the late Edward Said) are *not* Muslim. I can recall
meeting
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> several Palestinians who are not Muslim. And I can say that I have
> more respect for them than for 'Isidor Gunsberg', who has expressed
> his admiration (in his other posts here) for anti-Arab and
anti-Muslim
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> racists such as Brigitte Bardot and Orianna Fallaci.
Yes, indeed there are "many" Palestinian Christians in the West
Bank and Gaza. About 50,000 of them. This amounts to about 2 percent of
the total Palestinian Arab population. Lassen has expressed no concern
over the treatment of the Palestinian Christians in the West Bank and
Gaza, BY the Palestinian Muslim majority.
In fact, there has been much internecine violence amongst various
Palestinian factions, and this has probably accounted for even more
deaths than have occurred at the hands of the Israelis.
Surely you have noticed that there has been a rise in Islamist
extremism amonst the Palestinian Muslims. While Islamist extremists
hate Jews most of all, they also have no love al all for
Christians--even if they are fellow Palestinian Arabs. So, Lassen has
blinders on, and I submit that he cares more about the Palestinian
(Muslim) Arabs, and quite little about the Palestinian Christians.
Really, it appears as though Lassen hates Israel far more than he
cares about the Palestinians...
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> "The incapacity of the United States to see Arabs as other
> human beings is consistent with the ebbing of universalism
> within American society."
> --Emmanuel Todd (After the Empire, p. 118)
>
> --Nick
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