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Parrthenon

2004-12-24, 6:45 am

So where do we stand?

Two questions suggested themselves from the outset:

1. Why did the Executive Board refuse to grant wealthy, respected and highly
chess-productive businessman Erik Anderson two weeks to speak to billionaire
Gerry about the property in Liberty, NY?

2. What is in the contract(s) signed with the Crossville folks?

Frank Brady, whose family jewel recently received extravagant, arguendo
envious, praise from Stan Booz, asked two further questions:

1. What is the estimated cost of moving to Crossville?

2. What are the estimated expenditures in about a dozen important expense
categories for the move?

Neither question seems unusual or unfair. But both were met by more of
the anti-Sloan armpit stuff, though this time ineptly formulated by Stan Booz,
directed at Dr. Brady.

Richard Haas, who has taken to denominating himself "Old Haasie," asked
why the Federation did not look into erecting a Butler building in Crossville
rather than hiring an architect.

We have learned that an architect named Phil Elmore, whom Stan Booz
thinks it likely is a friend of Harry Sabine, has a contract to design
headquarters for the USCF in Crossville. The fee, we learned after months of
prodding, is $60,000 for a building with an original estimated cost of $300,000
to $350,000. That puts the architect's fee in the range of 15 to 20 percent of
the building's cost.

I then asked two questions:

1. Is this Mr. Elmore a friend of Harry Sabine?

2. Are there extenuating circumstances for Mr. Elmore receiving a contract
amounting to 15 to 20 percent of the estimated construction cost, or is the
contract as crooked as hell?

Somone following the exchanges on rgcp states that the Board has NOT
done estimates for the expense categories mentioned by Dr. Brady.

Even this writer, a prime critic of the disastrous move to Crossville,
finds it difficult to believe that before voting to move, the Board did not
produce detailed estimates for the major expense categories involved with
relocating -- including Beatriz Marinello in charge of relocating, although she
has a serious medical ailment and lives in Florida, instead of someone who is
already on the staff.

I speak directly to my source: I respect your knowledge, but is what
you say at all likely? Could any ruling board of an organization act so
irresponsibly? One can attack the move as imbecilic, but the people behind it
are far from being fools. They are wrong but not halfwits. One of them is
budget director for the state of Iowa who ran as a reform candidate.

Yet we have to ask Board members this question: before voting in favor of
going to Crossville, did you produce reasonably detailed estimates of costs for
the major expense categories involved in such a move?

Instead of honest answers, we fully expect more excremental responses to
this latest question.

________________________________________________________________
"FIDE has made its decision. Players who refuse to be drug tested will not be
able to play chess." -- Dr. Press, co-founder of the FIDE Medical Commission.
StanB

2004-12-24, 9:45 am


"Parrthenon" <parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
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quote:

> Frank Brady, whose family jewel recently received extravagant,
> arguendo
> envious, praise from Stan Booz, asked two further questions:


??? Better consult your Funk and Wagnall's pal. You are using the word out
of context.

So predictable.

So tiresome.

Unable to mount any substantive argument, our resident journalist
resorts to his usual intellectual dishonesty.



Jerzy

2004-12-24, 9:45 am

"StanB" <stanbooz@comXXXcast.net> wrote in message
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quote:

>
> ??? Better consult your Funk and Wagnall's pal. You are using the word out
> of context.
>
> So predictable.


Stan, it`s you who`s predictable here. It`s obvious that you won`t answer
any questions here :-)



Regards,

Jerzy


StanB

2004-12-24, 9:45 am


"Jerzy" <jciruk@poczta.fm> wrote in message
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quote:

> Stan, it`s you who`s predictable here. It`s obvious that you won`t answer
> any questions here :-)


What kind of troll is this. What question have you asked that I din't
answer? What question that I have the answer has been left unanswered?



Sam Sloan

2004-12-24, 9:45 am

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 08:16:42 -0500, "StanB" <stanbooz@comXXXcast.net>
wrote:
quote:

>
>"Parrthenon" <parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
>news:20041224010503.21734.00002219@mb-m14.news.cs.com...
>
>
>??? Better consult your Funk and Wagnall's pal. You are using the word out
>of context.
>
> So predictable.
>
> So tiresome.
>
> Unable to mount any substantive argument, our resident journalist
> resorts to his usual intellectual dishonesty.


Just to explain in case you missed it:

Stan Booz wrote here that Frank Brady was "a big prick".

Frank Brady thanked him for the compliment but wondered how Stan knew
that he had a big prick.

Sam Sloan
Jerzy

2004-12-24, 5:45 pm

"StanB" <stanbooz@comXXXcast.net> wrote in message
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quote:

>
> What kind of troll is this. What question have you asked that I din't
> answer? What question that I have the answer has been left unanswered?
>


I don`t expect any intelligent answer from you. That`s all. Calling someone
a troll is a convenient way to escape inconvenient questions or discussions
:-)

Regards,

Jerzy


StanB

2004-12-24, 5:45 pm


"Sam Sloan" <sloan@ishipress.com> wrote in message
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quote:

> Stan Booz wrote here that Frank Brady was "a big prick".
>
> Frank Brady thanked him for the compliment but wondered how Stan knew
> that he had a big prick.


You told me.


StanB

2004-12-24, 5:45 pm


"Jerzy" <jciruk@poczta.fm> wrote in message
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quote:

> I don`t expect any intelligent answer from you. That`s all. Calling
> someone
> a troll is a convenient way to escape inconvenient questions or
> discussions
> :-)


You didn't ask a question.


Doom & Gloom Dave

2004-12-24, 5:45 pm

Jerzy wrote:
quote:

> "StanB" <stanbooz@comXXXcast.net> wrote in message
> news:B86dnU0MOqQki1HcRVn-ig@comcast.com...
>
> Stan, it`s you who`s predictable here. It`s obvious that you won`t
> answer any questions here :-)
>
>
>


The questions have all been answered. Just because a certain segment
doesn't like the answers and keeps asking the questions refusing to accept
the answer doesn't invalidate the answers.


Jerzy

2004-12-24, 5:45 pm

"Doom & Gloom Dave" <dwhent@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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quote:

> The questions have all been answered. Just because a certain segment
> doesn't like the answers and keeps asking the questions refusing to accept
> the answer doesn't invalidate the answers.


If it`d been so then all discussions would`ve immediately stopped but this
is not the case :-)

Regards,

Jerzy




Jerzy

2004-12-24, 5:45 pm

"StanB" <stanbooz@comXXXcast.net> wrote in message
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quote:

>
> You didn't ask a question.


Read more carefully it`s not me who was asking :-)

Regards,

Jerzy


Doom & Gloom Dave

2004-12-24, 5:45 pm

Jerzy wrote:
quote:

> "Doom & Gloom Dave" <dwhent@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:IrYyd.173086$Oc.44525@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>
>
> If it`d been so then all discussions would`ve immediately stopped but
> this is not the case :-)
>

You either didn't read, didn't understand, or refuse to understand what I
wrote.

The questions have been answered.

Now, just because the questions were answered doesn't mean people stop
asking them.

Simple enough for you?



Jerzy

2004-12-24, 5:45 pm

"Doom & Gloom Dave" <dwhent@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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quote:

> You either didn't read, didn't understand, or refuse to understand what

I
quote:

> wrote.
>
> The questions have been answered.
>
> Now, just because the questions were answered doesn't mean people stop
> asking them.
>
> Simple enough for you?


So what are the answers ? Don`t try to escape like Stan Booz :-)

Regards,

Jerzy


Parrthenon

2004-12-24, 5:45 pm

ARRANT NONSENSE
quote:

> The questions have all been answered. Just because a certain segment

doesn't like the answers and keeps asking the questions refusing to accept the
answer doesn't invalidate the answers.> Doon & Gloom Dave

What has been answered?

1. Not a single document such as the $60,000 contract with the architect has
been placed online for inspection.

2. Not a single document or e-mail has been placed online to show that the USCF
has a legal obligation to move to Crossville.

3. Not a single response to Frank Brady's questions about the cost of
relocation has been posted by any board member.

4. Nor has anyone explained why the board couldn't wait two weeks to try and
negotiate a better deal with Mr. Gerry that would have retained the current
staff and reduced the horrendous cost of relocating and training a bevy of new
employees who can't tell the difference between a TD and a TN.

5. And why is Beatriz Marinello, a board member in poor health, been named
COO to supervise the move to Crossville when someone already on the payroll
could do the job without shuttling between Florida, New Windsor and Crossville
at USCF expense.

Finally, resident CPA Stan Booz, now reduced to snarling one-liners, has not
explained how Erik Anderson of the AF4C is "just another trough feeder" and
yet a potential dispenser of "paychecks" to bribe board members.

Yup. Guess all these questions have been answered and all is for the best in
the best of all possible worlds.
________________________________________________________________
"FIDE has made its decision. Players who refuse to be drug tested will not be
able to play chess." -- Dr. Press, co-founder of the FIDE Medical Commission.
StanB

2004-12-24, 5:45 pm


"Parrthenon" <parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20041224151119.06084.00001519@mb-m19.news.cs.com...
quote:

> Finally, resident CPA Stan Booz, now reduced to snarling one-liners, has
> not
> explained how Erik Anderson of the AF4C is "just another trough feeder"
> and
> yet a potential dispenser of "paychecks" to bribe board members.


So predictable.

So tiresome.

Unable to mount any substantive argument, our resident journalist
resorts to his usual intellectual dishonesty.

I never remotely said he would bribe anyone.




StanB

2004-12-24, 5:45 pm


"Parrthenon" <parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20041224151119.06084.00001519@mb-m19.news.cs.com...
quote:

> 3. Not a single response to Frank Brady's questions about the cost of
> relocation has been posted by any board member.


Yes why are Billy G. and Ken Thomas sitting on the books. Release that
information.




Sam Sloan

2004-12-24, 5:45 pm

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:43:10 -0500, "StanB" <stanbooz@comXXXcast.net>
wrote:
quote:

>
>"Parrthenon" <parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
>news:20041224151119.06084.00001519@mb-m19.news.cs.com...
>
>
>Yes why are Billy G. and Ken Thomas sitting on the books. Release that
>information.


It might help if you would stop calling them a-holes and f-offs.
StanB

2004-12-24, 5:45 pm


"Sam Sloan" <sloan@ishipress.com> wrote in message
news:41cc8005.15430828@ca.news.verio.net...
quote:

>
> It might help if you would stop calling them a-holes and f-offs.


First off, I haven't, second off they're being paid to do a job.


Parrthenon

2004-12-25, 12:45 am

HOW QUICKLY BOOZ FORGETS
quote:

> Finally, resident CPA Stan Booz, now reduced to snarling one-liners, has

not
explained how Erik Anderson of the AF4C is "just another trough feeder" and
yet a potential dispenser of "paychecks" to bribe board members. > -- Larry
Parr

< I never remotely said he would bribe anyone. > -- Stan Booz

< Yea the board wasn't very smart there. With Erik in charge they could expect
to draw paychecks.> -- "StanB" on Thursday, 23 Dec 2004 08:54:13 -0500

Our resident CPA can argue until he's blue in the face that dispensing
paychecks to an unpaid board doesn't equal a bribe. His response came after I
wrote:
quote:

>Indeed, it is normal enough for a national organization moving somewhere to

look around for some nice benefits. That's why it would have made sense for the
EB to have granted, wealthy, respected and chess productive businessman Erik
Anderson two more weeks to speak with billionaire Gerry about Liberty, NY.
Such a move would have kept the current staff and not required extensive
relocation costs.> -- Larry Parr

________________________________________________________________
"FIDE has made its decision. Players who refuse to be drug tested will not be
able to play chess." -- Dr. Press, co-founder of the FIDE Medical Commission.
StanB

2004-12-25, 12:45 am


"Parrthenon" <parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20041224175622.06298.00002120@mb-m18.news.cs.com...
quote:

> Our resident CPA can argue until he's blue in the face that dispensing
> paychecks to an unpaid board doesn't equal a bribe.


No argument necessary. It speaks for itself.


Doom & Gloom Dave

2004-12-25, 12:45 am

Parrthenon wrote:
quote:

> ARRANT NONSENSE
>
> doesn't like the answers and keeps asking the questions refusing to
> accept the answer doesn't invalidate the answers.> Doon & Gloom Dave
>
> What has been answered?
>
> 1. Not a single document such as the $60,000 contract with the
> architect has been placed online for inspection.


The answer is: Noneya
quote:

>
> 2. Not a single document or e-mail has been placed online to show
> that the USCF has a legal obligation to move to Crossville.


The answer is:Noneya
quote:

>
> 3. Not a single response to Frank Brady's questions about the cost
> of relocation has been posted by any board member.
>


That is also: Noneya. You wanna know Larry, join USCF and run for the
board.
quote:

> 4. Nor has anyone explained why the board couldn't wait two weeks
> to try and negotiate a better deal with Mr. Gerry that would have
> retained the current staff and reduced the horrendous cost of
> relocating and training a bevy of new employees who can't tell the
> difference between a TD and a TN.


This has been answered repeatedly.
quote:

>
> 5. And why is Beatriz Marinello, a board member in poor health,
> been named COO to supervise the move to Crossville when someone
> already on the payroll could do the job without shuttling between
> Florida, New Windsor and Crossville at USCF expense.


Who says poor health? Your buddy Sam? The board did it, and justified it.
Again, you don't like it so don't consider it answered.
quote:

>
> Finally, resident CPA Stan Booz, now reduced to snarling
> one-liners, has not explained how Erik Anderson of the AF4C is "just
> another trough feeder" and yet a potential dispenser of "paychecks"
> to bribe board members.


This is not a question!
quote:

>
> Yup. Guess all these questions have been answered and all is for
> the best in the best of all possible worlds.


It's a damn damn damn better USCF world than it was when other boards were
frittering away my LMA.

Give it up Larry, USCF is going to Crossville. Go do something productive
with your time.


Parrthenon

2004-12-25, 9:45 am

ANONYMOUSE SHIFTS GROUND

< The questions have all been answered. Just because a certain segment
doesn't like the answers and keeps asking the questions refusing to accept
the answer doesn't invalidate the answers. > Doom & Gloom Dave
quote:

> What has been answered?


1. Not a single document such as the $60,000 contract with the architect has
been placed online for inspection. > -- Larry Parr

< The answer is: Noneya > -- Doom & Gloom Dave

Suddenly our anonymouse has gone from "the questions have all been answered"
to NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

And so it goes.
________________________________________________________________
"FIDE has made its decision. Players who refuse to be drug tested will not be
able to play chess." -- Dr. Press, co-founder of the FIDE Medical Commission.
Doom & Gloom Dave

2004-12-25, 5:45 pm

Parrthenon wrote:
quote:

> ANONYMOUSE SHIFTS GROUND
>
> < The questions have all been answered. Just because a certain
> segment doesn't like the answers and keeps asking the questions
> refusing to accept the answer doesn't invalidate the answers. > Doom
> & Gloom Dave
>
>
> 1. Not a single document such as the $60,000 contract with the
> architect has been placed online for inspection. > -- Larry Parr
>
> < The answer is: Noneya > -- Doom & Gloom Dave
>
> Suddenly our anonymouse has gone from "the questions have all been
> answered" to NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
>
> And so it goes.


Hard to swallow, but it is the truth. That is the answer you have been
given. It is none of your business.

Oh, and I'm not a "phony insider" Larry, I have never claimed to be an
insider.
However I can read and comprehend well enough to know that all the answers
you have been looking for have been given.

When it comes to ducking questions you are the most adept of all.


StanB

2004-12-25, 5:45 pm


"Doom & Gloom Dave" <dwhent@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4ahzd.149351$8G4.33805@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
quote:

> Oh, and I'm not a "phony insider" Larry, I have never claimed to be an
> insider.
> However I can read and comprehend well enough to know that all the answers
> you have been looking for have been given.
>
> When it comes to ducking questions you are the most adept of all.


Adept? More like blatant.


Doom & Gloom Dave

2004-12-25, 5:45 pm

Parrthenon wrote:
quote:

> ANONYMOUSE SHIFTS GROUND



Oh, hey Larry, why the problem with my anonymity when you eat up all the
information anonymous sources provide you and Sam.

Tell you what, you reference every "rumor" you post with the source, and
have Sam do the same.

I'd have thought since you love anonymous sources so well, and take their
word as gospel that you'd have loved me.

Well well, I guess that you only love anonymous folks who give you what you
want. Imagine that!


Angelo DePalma

2004-12-26, 5:45 pm


Geez, I thought you had promised to stop posting here.


"Parrthenon" <parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20041224010503.21734.00002219@mb-m14.news.cs.com...
quote:

> So where do we stand?
>
> Two questions suggested themselves from the outset:
>
> 1. Why did the Executive Board refuse to grant wealthy, respected and
> highly
> chess-productive businessman Erik Anderson two weeks to speak to
> billionaire
> Gerry about the property in Liberty, NY?
>
> 2. What is in the contract(s) signed with the Crossville folks?
>
> Frank Brady, whose family jewel recently received extravagant,
> arguendo
> envious, praise from Stan Booz, asked two further questions:
>
> 1. What is the estimated cost of moving to Crossville?
>
> 2. What are the estimated expenditures in about a dozen important expense
> categories for the move?
>
> Neither question seems unusual or unfair. But both were met by
> more of
> the anti-Sloan armpit stuff, though this time ineptly formulated by Stan
> Booz,
> directed at Dr. Brady.
>
> Richard Haas, who has taken to denominating himself "Old Haasie,"
> asked
> why the Federation did not look into erecting a Butler building in
> Crossville
> rather than hiring an architect.
>
> We have learned that an architect named Phil Elmore, whom Stan Booz
> thinks it likely is a friend of Harry Sabine, has a contract to design
> headquarters for the USCF in Crossville. The fee, we learned after
> months of
> prodding, is $60,000 for a building with an original estimated cost of
> $300,000
> to $350,000. That puts the architect's fee in the range of 15 to 20
> percent of
> the building's cost.
>
> I then asked two questions:
>
> 1. Is this Mr. Elmore a friend of Harry Sabine?
>
> 2. Are there extenuating circumstances for Mr. Elmore receiving a
> contract
> amounting to 15 to 20 percent of the estimated construction cost, or is
> the
> contract as crooked as hell?
>
> Somone following the exchanges on rgcp states that the Board has NOT
> done estimates for the expense categories mentioned by Dr. Brady.
>
> Even this writer, a prime critic of the disastrous move to
> Crossville,
> finds it difficult to believe that before voting to move, the Board did
> not
> produce detailed estimates for the major expense categories involved with
> relocating -- including Beatriz Marinello in charge of relocating,
> although she
> has a serious medical ailment and lives in Florida, instead of someone who
> is
> already on the staff.
>
> I speak directly to my source: I respect your knowledge, but is
> what
> you say at all likely? Could any ruling board of an organization act so
> irresponsibly? One can attack the move as imbecilic, but the people
> behind it
> are far from being fools. They are wrong but not halfwits. One of them is
> budget director for the state of Iowa who ran as a reform candidate.
>
> Yet we have to ask Board members this question: before voting in
> favor of
> going to Crossville, did you produce reasonably detailed estimates of
> costs for
> the major expense categories involved in such a move?
>
> Instead of honest answers, we fully expect more excremental
> responses to
> this latest question.
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> "FIDE has made its decision. Players who refuse to be drug tested will not
> be
> able to play chess." -- Dr. Press, co-founder of the FIDE Medical
> Commission.



StanB

2004-12-27, 6:45 am


"Sam Sloan" <sloan@ishipress.com> wrote in message
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quote:

> Stan Booz wrote here that Frank Brady was "a big prick".
>
> Frank Brady thanked him for the compliment but wondered how Stan knew
> that he had a big prick.


You told me.


StanB

2004-12-27, 6:45 am


"Jerzy" <jciruk@poczta.fm> wrote in message
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quote:

> I don`t expect any intelligent answer from you. That`s all. Calling
> someone
> a troll is a convenient way to escape inconvenient questions or
> discussions
> :-)


You didn't ask a question.


Jerzy

2004-12-27, 6:45 am

"StanB" <stanbooz@comXXXcast.net> wrote in message
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quote:

>
> You didn't ask a question.


Read more carefully it`s not me who was asking :-)

Regards,

Jerzy


Jerzy

2004-12-27, 6:45 am

"Doom & Gloom Dave" <dwhent@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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quote:

> The questions have all been answered. Just because a certain segment
> doesn't like the answers and keeps asking the questions refusing to accept
> the answer doesn't invalidate the answers.


If it`d been so then all discussions would`ve immediately stopped but this
is not the case :-)

Regards,

Jerzy




Jerzy

2004-12-27, 6:45 am

"Doom & Gloom Dave" <dwhent@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3kZyd.145869$8G4.35529@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
quote:

> You either didn't read, didn't understand, or refuse to understand what

I
quote:

> wrote.
>
> The questions have been answered.
>
> Now, just because the questions were answered doesn't mean people stop
> asking them.
>
> Simple enough for you?


So what are the answers ? Don`t try to escape like Stan Booz :-)

Regards,

Jerzy


StanB

2004-12-27, 6:45 am


"Parrthenon" <parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20041224151119.06084.00001519@mb-m19.news.cs.com...
quote:

> Finally, resident CPA Stan Booz, now reduced to snarling one-liners, has
> not
> explained how Erik Anderson of the AF4C is "just another trough feeder"
> and
> yet a potential dispenser of "paychecks" to bribe board members.


So predictable.

So tiresome.

Unable to mount any substantive argument, our resident journalist
resorts to his usual intellectual dishonesty.

I never remotely said he would bribe anyone.




Sam Sloan

2004-12-27, 6:45 am

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:43:10 -0500, "StanB" <stanbooz@comXXXcast.net>
wrote:
quote:

>
>"Parrthenon" <parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
>news:20041224151119.06084.00001519@mb-m19.news.cs.com...
>
>
>Yes why are Billy G. and Ken Thomas sitting on the books. Release that
>information.


It might help if you would stop calling them a-holes and f-offs.
StanB

2004-12-27, 6:45 am


"Parrthenon" <parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20041224151119.06084.00001519@mb-m19.news.cs.com...
quote:

> 3. Not a single response to Frank Brady's questions about the cost of
> relocation has been posted by any board member.


Yes why are Billy G. and Ken Thomas sitting on the books. Release that
information.




Doom & Gloom Dave

2004-12-27, 6:45 am

Parrthenon wrote:
quote:

> ARRANT NONSENSE
>
> doesn't like the answers and keeps asking the questions refusing to
> accept the answer doesn't invalidate the answers.> Doon & Gloom Dave
>
> What has been answered?
>
> 1. Not a single document such as the $60,000 contract with the
> architect has been placed online for inspection.


The answer is: Noneya
quote:

>
> 2. Not a single document or e-mail has been placed online to show
> that the USCF has a legal obligation to move to Crossville.


The answer is:Noneya
quote:

>
> 3. Not a single response to Frank Brady's questions about the cost
> of relocation has been posted by any board member.
>


That is also: Noneya. You wanna know Larry, join USCF and run for the
board.
quote:

> 4. Nor has anyone explained why the board couldn't wait two weeks
> to try and negotiate a better deal with Mr. Gerry that would have
> retained the current staff and reduced the horrendous cost of
> relocating and training a bevy of new employees who can't tell the
> difference between a TD and a TN.


This has been answered repeatedly.
quote:

>
> 5. And why is Beatriz Marinello, a board member in poor health,
> been named COO to supervise the move to Crossville when someone
> already on the payroll could do the job without shuttling between
> Florida, New Windsor and Crossville at USCF expense.


Who says poor health? Your buddy Sam? The board did it, and justified it.
Again, you don't like it so don't consider it answered.
quote:

>
> Finally, resident CPA Stan Booz, now reduced to snarling
> one-liners, has not explained how Erik Anderson of the AF4C is "just
> another trough feeder" and yet a potential dispenser of "paychecks"
> to bribe board members.


This is not a question!
quote:

>
> Yup. Guess all these questions have been answered and all is for
> the best in the best of all possible worlds.


It's a damn damn damn better USCF world than it was when other boards were
frittering away my LMA.

Give it up Larry, USCF is going to Crossville. Go do something productive
with your time.


Doom & Gloom Dave

2004-12-30, 6:45 am

Parrthenon wrote:
quote:

> ARRANT NONSENSE
>
> doesn't like the answers and keeps asking the questions refusing to
> accept the answer doesn't invalidate the answers.> Doon & Gloom Dave
>
> What has been answered?
>
> 1. Not a single document such as the $60,000 contract with the
> architect has been placed online for inspection.


The answer is: Noneya
quote:

>
> 2. Not a single document or e-mail has been placed online to show
> that the USCF has a legal obligation to move to Crossville.


The answer is:Noneya
quote:

>
> 3. Not a single response to Frank Brady's questions about the cost
> of relocation has been posted by any board member.
>


That is also: Noneya. You wanna know Larry, join USCF and run for the
board.
quote:

> 4. Nor has anyone explained why the board couldn't wait two weeks
> to try and negotiate a better deal with Mr. Gerry that would have
> retained the current staff and reduced the horrendous cost of
> relocating and training a bevy of new employees who can't tell the
> difference between a TD and a TN.


This has been answered repeatedly.
quote:

>
> 5. And why is Beatriz Marinello, a board member in poor health,
> been named COO to supervise the move to Crossville when someone
> already on the payroll could do the job without shuttling between
> Florida, New Windsor and Crossville at USCF expense.


Who says poor health? Your buddy Sam? The board did it, and justified it.
Again, you don't like it so don't consider it answered.
quote:

>
> Finally, resident CPA Stan Booz, now reduced to snarling
> one-liners, has not explained how Erik Anderson of the AF4C is "just
> another trough feeder" and yet a potential dispenser of "paychecks"
> to bribe board members.


This is not a question!
quote:

>
> Yup. Guess all these questions have been answered and all is for
> the best in the best of all possible worlds.


It's a damn damn damn better USCF world than it was when other boards were
frittering away my LMA.

Give it up Larry, USCF is going to Crossville. Go do something productive
with your time.


Doom & Gloom Dave

2004-12-30, 6:45 am

Parrthenon wrote:
quote:

> ANONYMOUSE SHIFTS GROUND
>
> < The questions have all been answered. Just because a certain
> segment doesn't like the answers and keeps asking the questions
> refusing to accept the answer doesn't invalidate the answers. > Doom
> & Gloom Dave
>
>
> 1. Not a single document such as the $60,000 contract with the
> architect has been placed online for inspection. > -- Larry Parr
>
> < The answer is: Noneya > -- Doom & Gloom Dave
>
> Suddenly our anonymouse has gone from "the questions have all been
> answered" to NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
>
> And so it goes.


Hard to swallow, but it is the truth. That is the answer you have been
given. It is none of your business.

Oh, and I'm not a "phony insider" Larry, I have never claimed to be an
insider.
However I can read and comprehend well enough to know that all the answers
you have been looking for have been given.

When it comes to ducking questions you are the most adept of all.


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