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What questions were asked in Crossville?
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| Miriling 2004-11-22, 12:47 am |
| When the USCF Executive Board met for a board meeting in Crossville, Tenn., on
Sept. 24-25, 2004, it had the opportunity of meeting Philip D. Elmore of
ArchiStructures Inc., the local architect who designed the proposed new
building for the federation and showed drawings of the building and answered
questions.
What questions were asked of the architect and who asked them?
What were Mr. Elmore's answers? Were the proceedings tape-recorded?
Also, is the federation in possession of copies of the drawings of the
building? If so, who within the USCF has them?
George Mirijanian
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| Parrthenon 2004-11-22, 6:46 am |
| <<What questions were asked of the architect and who asked them? What were Mr.
Elmore's answers? Were the proceedings tape-recorded? Also, is the federation
in possession of copies of the drawings of the
building? If so, who within the USCF has them?>> -- George Mirijanian
As Arnold Denker might say, "Silly boy."
The board won't even release their contract with Crossville, and you expect to
receive a rational answer to this question?
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| RSHaas 2004-11-22, 6:46 am |
| "Also, is the federation in possession of copies of the drawings of the
building? If so, who within the USCF has them?
(George Mirijanian)
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Don't worry about a thang, George. Lil' BessieMae Suggs, a 5th grader at the
Crooked Crick School done made a fine drawing of the Chess HQ building. It
shows smoke coming outta the chimney and Santa's reindeer and sleigh on the
roof. Santa looks a little like Neil Brennen.
Old Haasie
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| Randy Bauer 2004-11-22, 9:45 am |
| In article <20041121233137.06587.00000538@mb-m24.aol.com>, Miriling says...
quote:
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>When the USCF Executive Board met for a board meeting in Crossville, Tenn., on
>Sept. 24-25, 2004, it had the opportunity of meeting Philip D. Elmore of
>ArchiStructures Inc., the local architect who designed the proposed new
>building for the federation and showed drawings of the building and answered
>questions.
>What questions were asked of the architect and who asked them?
>What were Mr. Elmore's answers? Were the proceedings tape-recorded?
>Also, is the federation in possession of copies of the drawings of the
>building? If so, who within the USCF has them?
>
>George Mirijanian
After viewing the proposed construction site and the temporary space, members of
the EB walked over to the architect's office, viewed the plans and a model of
the building. I don't recall who asked what questions, but typical questions
covered estimated cost per square foot, how the design might be modified to
increase or decrease square footage, how the design fit with the parcel of land,
scalability, etc. The architect was also asked about other projects of a
similar size or scope that he had been involved with. In fact, we later took a
quick tour of one of those facilities, the Crossville City Hall, which is a
modern structure of somewhat comparable size with many of the same types of
features as the USCF building -- reception area, offices, meeting rooms,
storage, etc.
I do ont believe the proceedings were tape recorded, and I also do not know who
owns/has possession of the drawings.
Randy Bauer
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| KJ2350 2004-11-23, 12:48 am |
| >Don't worry about a thang, George. Lil' BessieMae Suggs, a 5th grader at the
quote:
>Crooked Crick School done made a fine drawing of the Chess HQ building. It
>shows smoke coming outta the chimney and Santa's reindeer and sleigh on the
>roof. Santa looks a little like Neil Brennen.
>
>Old Haasie
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Silly Haasie! That was not the chess HQ, that was the outhouse....No, wait!
It is the chess HQ AND the outhouse (sorta like what we have now.)
KJ
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| Miriling 2004-11-24, 12:46 am |
| >Subject: Re: What questions were asked in Crossville?
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>On 22 November 2004 Randy Bauer Randy_member@newsguy.com wrote in
>Message-id: <cnsql401pto@drn.newsguy.com>
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>After viewing the proposed construction site and the temporary space, members
>of
>the EB walked over to the architect's office, viewed the plans and a model of
>the building. I don't recall who asked what questions, but typical questions
>covered estimated cost per square foot, how the design might be modified to
>increase or decrease square footage, how the design fit with the parcel of
>land,
>scalability, etc. The architect was also asked about other projects of a
>similar size or scope that he had been involved with. In fact, we later took
>a
>quick tour of one of those facilities, the Crossville City Hall, which is a
>modern structure of somewhat comparable size with many of the same types of
>features as the USCF building -- reception area, offices, meeting rooms,
>storage, etc.
>
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>Randy Bauer
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>Is that the "new" Crossville City Hall that was plagued by construction
delays, triggering daily damages against the contractor, Milborn Construction,
which was working with the architect, Philip D. Elmore of Archistructures Inc.?
Asking the architect about other projects of similar size and scope his company
has done is one thing; finding about the history of these projects is another
thing. Did anybody on the EB ask the architect if he ever experienced any
construction delays from contractors he's worked with? I doubt that question
was ever asked. You should have asked him about the history of the Crossville
City Hall building project and how much that cost the city in delays.
George Mirijanian
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| Miriling 2004-11-24, 12:46 am |
| >Subject: Re: What questions were asked in Crossville?
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>On 22 November 2004 Randy Bauer Randy_member@newsguy.com wrote in
>Message-id: <cnsql401pto@drn.newsguy.com>
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>The architect was also asked about other projects of a similar size or scope
that he had been involved with.
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>Randy Bauer
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>Did the architect tell you about a project his company, ArchiStructures Inc.,
worked on about six years ago? It involved building the city of Crossville's
Multi-Purpose Senior Citizen Center - a project not of scope and size of a new
USCF building, to be true, but still a building project, nevertheless.
The architect used state prisoners and students from the Tennessee Technology
Center as construction labor. The project became a community effort, since
several local business donated construction materials to it.
George Mirijanian
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| Randy Bauer 2004-11-24, 12:46 am |
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"Miriling" <miriling@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041123233052.15947.00001134@mb-m02.aol.com...
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> that he had been involved with.
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> worked on about six years ago? It involved building the city of
> Crossville's
> Multi-Purpose Senior Citizen Center - a project not of scope and size of a
> new
> USCF building, to be true, but still a building project, nevertheless.
> The architect used state prisoners and students from the Tennessee
> Technology
> Center as construction labor. The project became a community effort, since
> several local business donated construction materials to it.
>
> George Mirijanian
No.
I would note that we use state prisoners all the time on
construction/maintenance projects at our state facilities. It's a cost
effective way to get the work done and get them skills that might prove
useful when they are no longer wards of the state.
Randy Bauer
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"Miriling" <miriling@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041123233052.15947.00001134@mb-m02.aol.com...
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> The architect used state prisoners and students from the Tennessee
> Technology
> Center as construction labor.
Are you saying that the architect was also the general contractor?
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| Randy Bauer 2004-11-26, 6:45 am |
| In article <20041121233137.06587.00000538@mb-m24.aol.com>, Miriling says...
quote:
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>When the USCF Executive Board met for a board meeting in Crossville, Tenn., on
>Sept. 24-25, 2004, it had the opportunity of meeting Philip D. Elmore of
>ArchiStructures Inc., the local architect who designed the proposed new
>building for the federation and showed drawings of the building and answered
>questions.
>What questions were asked of the architect and who asked them?
>What were Mr. Elmore's answers? Were the proceedings tape-recorded?
>Also, is the federation in possession of copies of the drawings of the
>building? If so, who within the USCF has them?
>
>George Mirijanian
After viewing the proposed construction site and the temporary space, members of
the EB walked over to the architect's office, viewed the plans and a model of
the building. I don't recall who asked what questions, but typical questions
covered estimated cost per square foot, how the design might be modified to
increase or decrease square footage, how the design fit with the parcel of land,
scalability, etc. The architect was also asked about other projects of a
similar size or scope that he had been involved with. In fact, we later took a
quick tour of one of those facilities, the Crossville City Hall, which is a
modern structure of somewhat comparable size with many of the same types of
features as the USCF building -- reception area, offices, meeting rooms,
storage, etc.
I do ont believe the proceedings were tape recorded, and I also do not know who
owns/has possession of the drawings.
Randy Bauer
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"Miriling" <miriling@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041123233052.15947.00001134@mb-m02.aol.com...
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> The architect used state prisoners and students from the Tennessee
> Technology
> Center as construction labor.
Are you saying that the architect was also the general contractor?
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| KJ2350 2004-11-29, 12:46 am |
| >Don't worry about a thang, George. Lil' BessieMae Suggs, a 5th grader at the
quote:
>Crooked Crick School done made a fine drawing of the Chess HQ building. It
>shows smoke coming outta the chimney and Santa's reindeer and sleigh on the
>roof. Santa looks a little like Neil Brennen.
>
>Old Haasie
>
Silly Haasie! That was not the chess HQ, that was the outhouse....No, wait!
It is the chess HQ AND the outhouse (sorta like what we have now.)
KJ
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