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| HAASpittle 2004-11-16, 5:00 pm |
| Old Hassie got a computer virus several days ago. It came as an attachment
to an email using the address of one of our rcgp posters, George Miriling.
I’m sure George didn’t willfully send it himself. The virus just took over
his address and sent it to me. My McAfee had just finished an update and their
M icon had gone from red to black. I hadn’t yet rebooted to activate the
update when the email arrived. Because it was from someone familiar to me on
rgcp I opened the attachment and released a Trojan type virus with the name of
BackDoor-AZV.gen. I didn’t realize I had a virus for a few days. Then I
became suspicious. I ran McAfee VirusScan and it found it after a two hour
scan. It also found several other undesirable items. But when I clicked on
the delete icon the virus couldn’t be deleted, nor could it be quarantined
because it occupied a write protected temp file. Some techs told me I have to
do a system restore to get rid of it, losing all my stuff. Another tech told
me to download and run McAfee’s "stinger" utility. That didn’t work
because McAfee hadn’t added this particular BackDoor trojan to the four
BackDoor types it had on their list.
Finally, I got some good advice from AOL-McAfee level two support. They
told me to download and run SpyBot and Ad-Aware. I did that. Then download
and install McAfee again without uninstalling the original. Reboot the
computer in safe mode. Run McAfee Virus Scan in safe mode. I did that and it
got the Trojan.
Old Haasie
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| Jürgen R. 2004-11-16, 5:00 pm |
| haaspittle@aol.com (HAASpittle) wrote:
quote:
> Old Hassie got a computer virus several days ago. It came as an attachment
>to an email using the address of one of our rcgp posters, George Miriling.
>I’m sure George didn’t willfully send it himself. The virus just took over
>his address and sent it to me.
That's how it has been working for years. Simply don't open unexpected
atachments.
quote:
> My McAfee had just finished an update and their
>M icon had gone from red to black. I hadn’t yet rebooted to activate the
>update when the email arrived. Because it was from someone familiar to me on
>rgcp I opened the attachment and released a Trojan type virus with the name of
>BackDoor-AZV.gen. I didn’t realize I had a virus for a few days. Then I
>became suspicious. I ran McAfee VirusScan and it found it after a two hour
>scan. It also found several other undesirable items. But when I clicked on
>the delete icon the virus couldn’t be deleted, nor could it be quarantined
>because it occupied a write protected temp file. Some techs told me I have to
>do a system restore to get rid of it, losing all my stuff. Another tech told
>me to download and run McAfee’s "stinger" utility. That didn’t work
>because McAfee hadn’t added this particular BackDoor trojan to the four
>BackDoor types it had on their list.
> Finally, I got some good advice from AOL-McAfee level two support. They
>told me to download and run SpyBot and Ad-Aware. I did that. Then download
>and install McAfee again without uninstalling the original. Reboot the
>computer in safe mode. Run McAfee Virus Scan in safe mode. I did that and it
>got the Trojan.
And did you ask yourself why you are paying money to these Mcafee
people?
quote:
>
>Old Haasie
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| The moral of the story is to switch to Norton anti-virus and suggest that
George do the same.
"HAASpittle" <haaspittle@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041113083557.12369.00000593@mb-m28.aol.com...
quote:
> Old Hassie got a computer virus several days ago. It came as an
> attachment
> to an email using the address of one of our rcgp posters, George
> Miriling.
> I'm sure George didn't willfully send it himself. The virus just took
> over
> his address and sent it to me. My McAfee had just finished an update and
> their
> M icon had gone from red to black. I hadn't yet rebooted to activate the
> update when the email arrived. Because it was from someone familiar to me
> on
> rgcp I opened the attachment and released a Trojan type virus with the
> name of
> BackDoor-AZV.gen. I didn't realize I had a virus for a few days. Then I
> became suspicious. I ran McAfee VirusScan and it found it after a two
> hour
> scan. It also found several other undesirable items. But when I clicked
> on
> the delete icon the virus couldn't be deleted, nor could it be quarantined
> because it occupied a write protected temp file. Some techs told me I
> have to
> do a system restore to get rid of it, losing all my stuff. Another tech
> told
> me to download and run McAfee's "stinger" utility. That didn't work
> because McAfee hadn't added this particular BackDoor trojan to the four
> BackDoor types it had on their list.
> Finally, I got some good advice from AOL-McAfee level two support. They
> told me to download and run SpyBot and Ad-Aware. I did that. Then
> download
> and install McAfee again without uninstalling the original. Reboot the
> computer in safe mode. Run McAfee Virus Scan in safe mode. I did that
> and it
> got the Trojan.
>
> Old Haasie
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| Miriling 2004-11-16, 5:00 pm |
| >Subject: Old Haasie Whups a Computer Virus
quote:
>On 13 November 2004 haaspittle@aol.com (HAASpittle) wrote in
>Message-id: <20041113083557.12369.00000593@mb-m28.aol.com>
>
> Old Hassie got a computer virus several days ago. It came as an
>attachment
>to an email using the address of one of our rcgp posters, George Miriling.
>I’m sure George didn’t willfully send it himself. The virus just took
over
quote:
>his address and sent it to me. My McAfee had just finished an update and
>their
>M icon had gone from red to black. I hadn’t yet rebooted to activate the
>update when the email arrived. Because it was from someone familiar to me on
>rgcp I opened the attachment and released a Trojan type virus with the name
>of
>BackDoor-AZV.gen. I didn’t realize I had a virus for a few days. Then I
>became suspicious. I ran McAfee VirusScan and it found it after a two hour
>scan. It also found several other undesirable items. But when I clicked on
>the delete icon the virus couldn’t be deleted, nor could it be quarantined
>because it occupied a write protected temp file. Some techs told me I have
>to
>do a system restore to get rid of it, losing all my stuff. Another tech told
>me to download and run McAfee’s "stinger" utility. That didn’t work
>because McAfee hadn’t added this particular BackDoor trojan to the four
>BackDoor types it had on their list.
> Finally, I got some good advice from AOL-McAfee level two support. They
>told me to download and run SpyBot and Ad-Aware. I did that. Then download
>and install McAfee again without uninstalling the original. Reboot the
>computer in safe mode. Run McAfee Virus Scan in safe mode. I did that and
>it
>got the Trojan.
>
>Old Haasie
>
>
>Old Haasie,
Rest assured. I have NEVER sent an e-mail with an attachment to you or, for
that matter, to anybody on this newsgroup. Some despicable wretch has caused
great aggravation for you. I wish I knew who it was
George Mirijanian
quote:
>
>
>
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| Wickdeer3 2004-11-16, 5:00 pm |
| George Mirijanian wrote:
quote:
>
>Rest assured. I have NEVER sent an e-mail with an attachment to you or, for
>that matter, to anybody on this newsgroup. Some despicable wretch has caused
>great aggravation for you. I wish I knew who it was
>
>George Mirijanian
George:
I don't doubt for a moment that you never knowingly sent a virus to Mr. Haas,
or anyone else.
Unfortunately, the nature of many computer viruses is that they propagate by
sending out emails without the knowlege of the computer's owner. The one time
we got infected was when my wife opened an email purportedly been sent by a
friend. It had come from the friend's computer without his knowlege. This is
especially true if you are using Outlook as your mailer, a program that has
more holes than a collander convention.
You would do well to run a virus check on your computer. A good free virus
checker is available for download at www.grisoft.com.
Wick Deer
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| Spam Scone 2004-11-16, 5:00 pm |
| wickdeer3@cs.comKillSpam (Wickdeer3) wrote in message news:<20041113164930.06096.00000343@mb-m21.news.cs.com>...
quote:
> George Mirijanian wrote:
>
>
> George:
>
> I don't doubt for a moment that you never knowingly sent a virus to Mr. Haas,
> or anyone else.
>
> Unfortunately, the nature of many computer viruses is that they propagate by
> sending out emails without the knowlege of the computer's owner. The one time
> we got infected was when my wife opened an email purportedly been sent by a
> friend. It had come from the friend's computer without his knowlege. This is
> especially true if you are using Outlook as your mailer, a program that has
> more holes than a collander convention.
>
> You would do well to run a virus check on your computer. A good free virus
> checker is available for download at www.grisoft.com.
>
> Wick Deer
Good advice from Wick. Also, you might consider dumping Outlook and
Internet Explorer, which are both virus magnets. Mozilla's Thunderbird
and Firefox are both good freeware programs.
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| HAASpittle 2004-11-16, 5:00 pm |
| Speaking of viruses, how's the move to Crossville coming along?
Old Haasie
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| Angelo DePalma 2004-11-16, 5:00 pm |
| Don't feel so bad Rich. Two years ago I was infected by an email-generating
virus that took over my computer and sent out tens of thousands of messages
from my machine -- in Russian. Within a day my ISP shut me down because I
was on every spammer list on the globe.
People who write viruses should be executed. I don't care if they're 10
years old. XXXX 'em. Spammers should get at least 10 years in jail.
"HAASpittle" <haaspittle@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041113083557.12369.00000593@mb-m28.aol.com...
quote:
> Old Hassie got a computer virus several days ago. It came as an
> attachment
> to an email using the address of one of our rcgp posters, George
> Miriling.
> I'm sure George didn't willfully send it himself. The virus just took
> over
> his address and sent it to me. My McAfee had just finished an update and
> their
> M icon had gone from red to black. I hadn't yet rebooted to activate the
> update when the email arrived. Because it was from someone familiar to me
> on
> rgcp I opened the attachment and released a Trojan type virus with the
> name of
> BackDoor-AZV.gen. I didn't realize I had a virus for a few days. Then I
> became suspicious. I ran McAfee VirusScan and it found it after a two
> hour
> scan. It also found several other undesirable items. But when I clicked
> on
> the delete icon the virus couldn't be deleted, nor could it be quarantined
> because it occupied a write protected temp file. Some techs told me I
> have to
> do a system restore to get rid of it, losing all my stuff. Another tech
> told
> me to download and run McAfee's "stinger" utility. That didn't work
> because McAfee hadn't added this particular BackDoor trojan to the four
> BackDoor types it had on their list.
> Finally, I got some good advice from AOL-McAfee level two support. They
> told me to download and run SpyBot and Ad-Aware. I did that. Then
> download
> and install McAfee again without uninstalling the original. Reboot the
> computer in safe mode. Run McAfee Virus Scan in safe mode. I did that
> and it
> got the Trojan.
>
> Old Haasie
| |
| Wickdeer3 2004-11-16, 5:00 pm |
| Spam Scone wrote:
quote:
>Good advice from Wick. Also, you might consider dumping Outlook and
>Internet Explorer, which are both virus magnets. Mozilla's Thunderbird
>and Firefox are both good freeware programs.
>
At the moment, I am using Pegasus as my mailer, and Opera as my browser. I was
planning to give Mozilla a look. Outlook's vulnerability is the primary reason
for my switch.
Wick
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| Jürgen R. 2004-11-16, 5:00 pm |
| "StanB" <stanbooz@comXXXcast.net> wrote:
quote:
>The moral of the story is to switch to Norton anti-virus and suggest that
>George do the same.
No, Norton is no better and both are unnecessary.
quote:
>
>
>"HAASpittle" <haaspittle@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20041113083557.12369.00000593@mb-m28.aol.com...
>
>
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| HAASpittle 2004-11-16, 5:01 pm |
| "Spammers should get at least 10 years in jail." (Angelo)
=============
I send spam, usually 10 or 20 solicitations for health insurance per day
primarily to real estate agents in Florida. I do it the "right" way with my
real name, physical address, offer to remove, and so on. Never once had a
legal problem. I ignore the do-not-call lists as well. If a real estate agent
places her cell phone number in her advertisements, she has little chance of
winning a case against me for giving her a commercial call.
Old Haas <still trying to make a buck>
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| Spam Scone 2004-11-16, 5:01 pm |
| wickdeer3@cs.comKillSpam (Wickdeer3) wrote in message news:<20041114070423.08392.00000640@mb-m04.news.cs.com>...
quote:
> Spam Scone wrote:
>
>
> At the moment, I am using Pegasus as my mailer, and Opera as my browser. I was
> planning to give Mozilla a look. Outlook's vulnerability is the primary reason
> for my switch.
>
> Wick
Mozilla's Firefox is a great program. It blocks pop-up ads, and
includes "tabbed browsing". Thunderbird, the mail program, has a great
junk-mail filter and tons of security features. Plus, because it's
open-code and free, no one is writing viruses for it.
| |
| Angelo DePalma 2004-11-16, 5:01 pm |
|
Haasie,
10-20 emails at a time with your name on them, offering something valuable
to bona fide prospects is not spam, it's marketing. 500,000 messsages for
dick cream to random email addresses is spam.
As for the DNC lists....If I didn't like you I'd use certain words here. You
should respect someone's decision not to receive unsolicited phone calls.
"HAASpittle" <haaspittle@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041114121629.06458.00000247@mb-m26.aol.com...
quote:
> "Spammers should get at least 10 years in jail." (Angelo)
> =============
> I send spam, usually 10 or 20 solicitations for health insurance per day
> primarily to real estate agents in Florida. I do it the "right" way with
> my
> real name, physical address, offer to remove, and so on. Never once had a
> legal problem. I ignore the do-not-call lists as well. If a real estate
> agent
> places her cell phone number in her advertisements, she has little chance
> of
> winning a case against me for giving her a commercial call.
>
> Old Haas <still trying to make a buck>
| |
| Bill Smythe 2004-11-16, 5:01 pm |
| "Wickdeer3" wrote:
quote:
> .... the nature of many computer viruses is that they propagate by
> sending out emails without the knowlege of the computer's owner. ....
Isn't it also possible that a third-party computer did this, and spoofed the
return address by picking an address at random from somebody's address book?
Bill Smythe
| |
| Jürgen R. 2004-11-18, 5:47 pm |
| haaspittle@aol.com (HAASpittle) wrote:
quote:
> Old Hassie got a computer virus several days ago. It came as an attachment
>to an email using the address of one of our rcgp posters, George Miriling.
>I’m sure George didn’t willfully send it himself. The virus just took over
>his address and sent it to me.
That's how it has been working for years. Simply don't open unexpected
atachments.
quote:
> My McAfee had just finished an update and their
>M icon had gone from red to black. I hadn’t yet rebooted to activate the
>update when the email arrived. Because it was from someone familiar to me on
>rgcp I opened the attachment and released a Trojan type virus with the name of
>BackDoor-AZV.gen. I didn’t realize I had a virus for a few days. Then I
>became suspicious. I ran McAfee VirusScan and it found it after a two hour
>scan. It also found several other undesirable items. But when I clicked on
>the delete icon the virus couldn’t be deleted, nor could it be quarantined
>because it occupied a write protected temp file. Some techs told me I have to
>do a system restore to get rid of it, losing all my stuff. Another tech told
>me to download and run McAfee’s "stinger" utility. That didn’t work
>because McAfee hadn’t added this particular BackDoor trojan to the four
>BackDoor types it had on their list.
> Finally, I got some good advice from AOL-McAfee level two support. They
>told me to download and run SpyBot and Ad-Aware. I did that. Then download
>and install McAfee again without uninstalling the original. Reboot the
>computer in safe mode. Run McAfee Virus Scan in safe mode. I did that and it
>got the Trojan.
And did you ask yourself why you are paying money to these Mcafee
people?
quote:
>
>Old Haasie
| |
|
| The moral of the story is to switch to Norton anti-virus and suggest that
George do the same.
"HAASpittle" <haaspittle@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041113083557.12369.00000593@mb-m28.aol.com...
quote:
> Old Hassie got a computer virus several days ago. It came as an
> attachment
> to an email using the address of one of our rcgp posters, George
> Miriling.
> I'm sure George didn't willfully send it himself. The virus just took
> over
> his address and sent it to me. My McAfee had just finished an update and
> their
> M icon had gone from red to black. I hadn't yet rebooted to activate the
> update when the email arrived. Because it was from someone familiar to me
> on
> rgcp I opened the attachment and released a Trojan type virus with the
> name of
> BackDoor-AZV.gen. I didn't realize I had a virus for a few days. Then I
> became suspicious. I ran McAfee VirusScan and it found it after a two
> hour
> scan. It also found several other undesirable items. But when I clicked
> on
> the delete icon the virus couldn't be deleted, nor could it be quarantined
> because it occupied a write protected temp file. Some techs told me I
> have to
> do a system restore to get rid of it, losing all my stuff. Another tech
> told
> me to download and run McAfee's "stinger" utility. That didn't work
> because McAfee hadn't added this particular BackDoor trojan to the four
> BackDoor types it had on their list.
> Finally, I got some good advice from AOL-McAfee level two support. They
> told me to download and run SpyBot and Ad-Aware. I did that. Then
> download
> and install McAfee again without uninstalling the original. Reboot the
> computer in safe mode. Run McAfee Virus Scan in safe mode. I did that
> and it
> got the Trojan.
>
> Old Haasie
| |
| Jürgen R. 2004-11-18, 5:47 pm |
| "StanB" <stanbooz@comXXXcast.net> wrote:
quote:
>The moral of the story is to switch to Norton anti-virus and suggest that
>George do the same.
No, Norton is no better and both are unnecessary.
quote:
>
>
>"HAASpittle" <haaspittle@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20041113083557.12369.00000593@mb-m28.aol.com...
>
>
| |
| Spam Scone 2004-11-18, 5:47 pm |
| wickdeer3@cs.comKillSpam (Wickdeer3) wrote in message news:<20041114070423.08392.00000640@mb-m04.news.cs.com>...
quote:
> Spam Scone wrote:
>
>
> At the moment, I am using Pegasus as my mailer, and Opera as my browser. I was
> planning to give Mozilla a look. Outlook's vulnerability is the primary reason
> for my switch.
>
> Wick
Mozilla's Firefox is a great program. It blocks pop-up ads, and
includes "tabbed browsing". Thunderbird, the mail program, has a great
junk-mail filter and tons of security features. Plus, because it's
open-code and free, no one is writing viruses for it.
| |
| Spam Scone 2004-11-19, 12:46 am |
| wickdeer3@cs.comKillSpam (Wickdeer3) wrote in message news:<20041113164930.06096.00000343@mb-m21.news.cs.com>...
quote:
> George Mirijanian wrote:
>
>
> George:
>
> I don't doubt for a moment that you never knowingly sent a virus to Mr. Haas,
> or anyone else.
>
> Unfortunately, the nature of many computer viruses is that they propagate by
> sending out emails without the knowlege of the computer's owner. The one time
> we got infected was when my wife opened an email purportedly been sent by a
> friend. It had come from the friend's computer without his knowlege. This is
> especially true if you are using Outlook as your mailer, a program that has
> more holes than a collander convention.
>
> You would do well to run a virus check on your computer. A good free virus
> checker is available for download at www.grisoft.com.
>
> Wick Deer
Good advice from Wick. Also, you might consider dumping Outlook and
Internet Explorer, which are both virus magnets. Mozilla's Thunderbird
and Firefox are both good freeware programs.
| |
| Angelo DePalma 2004-11-19, 12:46 am |
| Don't feel so bad Rich. Two years ago I was infected by an email-generating
virus that took over my computer and sent out tens of thousands of messages
from my machine -- in Russian. Within a day my ISP shut me down because I
was on every spammer list on the globe.
People who write viruses should be executed. I don't care if they're 10
years old. XXXX 'em. Spammers should get at least 10 years in jail.
"HAASpittle" <haaspittle@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041113083557.12369.00000593@mb-m28.aol.com...
quote:
> Old Hassie got a computer virus several days ago. It came as an
> attachment
> to an email using the address of one of our rcgp posters, George
> Miriling.
> I'm sure George didn't willfully send it himself. The virus just took
> over
> his address and sent it to me. My McAfee had just finished an update and
> their
> M icon had gone from red to black. I hadn't yet rebooted to activate the
> update when the email arrived. Because it was from someone familiar to me
> on
> rgcp I opened the attachment and released a Trojan type virus with the
> name of
> BackDoor-AZV.gen. I didn't realize I had a virus for a few days. Then I
> became suspicious. I ran McAfee VirusScan and it found it after a two
> hour
> scan. It also found several other undesirable items. But when I clicked
> on
> the delete icon the virus couldn't be deleted, nor could it be quarantined
> because it occupied a write protected temp file. Some techs told me I
> have to
> do a system restore to get rid of it, losing all my stuff. Another tech
> told
> me to download and run McAfee's "stinger" utility. That didn't work
> because McAfee hadn't added this particular BackDoor trojan to the four
> BackDoor types it had on their list.
> Finally, I got some good advice from AOL-McAfee level two support. They
> told me to download and run SpyBot and Ad-Aware. I did that. Then
> download
> and install McAfee again without uninstalling the original. Reboot the
> computer in safe mode. Run McAfee Virus Scan in safe mode. I did that
> and it
> got the Trojan.
>
> Old Haasie
| |
| Bill Smythe 2004-11-19, 12:46 am |
| "Wickdeer3" wrote:
quote:
> .... the nature of many computer viruses is that they propagate by
> sending out emails without the knowlege of the computer's owner. ....
Isn't it also possible that a third-party computer did this, and spoofed the
return address by picking an address at random from somebody's address book?
Bill Smythe
| |
| Wickdeer3 2004-11-19, 12:46 am |
| Spam Scone wrote:
quote:
>Good advice from Wick. Also, you might consider dumping Outlook and
>Internet Explorer, which are both virus magnets. Mozilla's Thunderbird
>and Firefox are both good freeware programs.
>
At the moment, I am using Pegasus as my mailer, and Opera as my browser. I was
planning to give Mozilla a look. Outlook's vulnerability is the primary reason
for my switch.
Wick
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