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Marz

2004-11-09, 6:45 am

Here is a video done by People in Ohio about problems with the election
there.

http://www.metroblogging.com/videothevote/

want more? read this:

http://rwor.org/a/1257/elections-stolen.htm

can ya read more? try this!:

http://www.opednews.com/thoreau_110404_diebold.htm

Here's some more food for thought:

(11-05) 08:49 PST COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) --

An error with an electronic voting system gave President Bush 3,893
extra votes in suburban Columbus, elections officials said.

Franklin County's unofficial results had Bush receiving 4,258 votes to
Democrat John Kerry's 260 votes in a precinct in Gahanna. Records show
only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct.

Bush actually received 365 votes in the precinct, Matthew Damschroder,
director of the Franklin County Board of Elections, told The Columbus
Dispatch.

Another article:
quote:

> "In recent years, central Ohio has been transformed from a bastion of
> Republicanism into a Democratic stronghold. Six of Columbus' seven
> city council members are Democrats, as is the city's mayor, Michael
> Coleman. But no Democrat has been elected to Congress from central
> Ohio in more than 20 years, and the area around Columbus still
> includes pockets where no Democrat stands a chance. One such
> Republican pocket is Upper Arlington, the Columbus suburb that is home
> to Walden "Wally" O'Dell, the chairman of the board and chief
> executive of Diebold (voting machine manufacturer). For years, O'Dell

has given generously to
quote:

> Republican candidates. Last September, he held a packed
> $1,000-per-head GOP fundraiser at his 10,800-square-foot mansion. He
> has been feted as a guest at President Bush's Texas ranch, joining a
> cadre of "Pioneers and Rangers" who have pledged to raise more than
> $100,000 for the Bush reelection campaign. Most memorably, O'Dell last
> fall penned a letter pledging his commitment "to helping Ohio deliver
> its electoral votes to the President."


From an article in The Hill
by Dick Morris

"Exit polls are almost never wrong. They eliminate the two major
potential fallacies in survey research by correctly separating actual
voters from those who pretend they will cast ballots but never do and by
substituting actual observation for guesswork in judging the relative
turnout of different parts of the state.

So reliable are the surveys that actually tap voters as they leave the
polling places that they are used as guides to the relative honesty of
elections in Third World countries.

So, according to ABC-TV’s exit polls, for example, Kerry was slated to
carry Florida, Ohio, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada and Iowa, all of which
Bush carried. The only swing state the network had going to Bush was
West Virginia, which the president won by 10 points.

To screw up one exit poll is unheard of. To miss six of them is
incredible. It boggles the imagination how pollsters could be that
incompetent and invites speculation that more than honest error was at
play here.

This was no mere mistake. Exit polls cannot be as wrong across the board
as they were on election night. I suspect foul play."

Now, he thinks that the polls were biased in an attempt to disuade
voters. He says they counted too many women.

apparently there was quite a bit of drama during election day with
projections that Kerry was the frontrunner.
on Dennis Millers show the following night, Lawrence O'Donnel Jr.
senior polital analyst of msnbc said,

"Yesterday afternoon everyone in Washington; everyone in the political
game, firmly believed that John Kerry was going to sweep all the
battleground states except Colorado. I spoke to people in Republican
headquarters in D. C. at 4 pm who were wiping back tears."

His take was that he was glad that exit polls have been proven wrong
like the good republican that he is.

Here's a post from a chat room of college kids on election day around
6pm, I think:

"I seem to be getting different exit numbers than Kos (not to mention
Drudge, who's NH number represent a 22% swing in three hours. I think
not). I'm damn confident in my source though, so take it all as you will:

FL: Kerry +1
OH: Kerry +1
MI: Kerry +4
PA: Kerry +11
IA: Even
WI: Kerry +5
MN: Kerry +18
NH: Kerry +15
NJ: Kerry +15
ME: Kerry +11
NV: Bush +2
NM: Kerry +2
NC: Bush +5
CO: Bush +7
VA: Bush +1 "

This compares the two voting systems used in Florida.

The machines that produced a verifyible audit trail (e-machines) were pretty
much dead on.
The machines that don't produce any sort of audit trail (op-scan) were
overwhelmingly tallied for Bush.

http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm

In Baker County for Example:
Registered Voters - 69.3% Democrat vs. 24.3% Republican
Bush got 77.7% of the votes cast.

Bradford County:
Registered Voters - 61.4% Democrat vs. 28.3% Republican
Bush got 69.6% of the votes cast.

Lavayette County:
Registered Voters - 82.8% Democrat vs. 13.2% Republican
Bush got 73.98% of the votes cast.

In many counties where Kerry should have easily won, there was and
unbelieveable
percentage of votes tallied for Bush.

Then this, from boingboing.net

* Palast: Kerry won, here's the facts.

*/Harper's Magazine/ contributing editor Greg Palast argues that
election management in Ohio was hopelessly borked, and that the state
was unfairly and inaccurately declared a win for Bush. Snip from
editor's intro to his latest feature, on Tompaine.com:
Bush won Ohio by 136,483 votes. Typically in the United States, about 3
percent of votes cast are voided -- known as 'spoilage' in election
jargon -- because the ballots cast are inconclusive. Drawing on what
happened in Florida and studies of elections past, Palast argues that if
Ohio's discarded ballots were counted, Kerry would have won the state.
Today, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports there are a total of 247,672
votes not counted in Ohio, if you add the 92,672 discarded votes plus
the 155,000 provisional ballots. So far there's no indication that
Palast's hypothesis will be tested because only the provisional ballots
are being counted.
And snip from Palast's story:
Most voters in Ohio thought they were voting for Kerry. CNN's exit poll
showed Kerry beating Bush among Ohio women by 53 percent to 47 percent.
Kerry also defeated Bush among Ohio's male voters 51 percent to 49
percent. Unless a third gender voted in Ohio, Kerry took the state.

So what's going on here? Answer: the exit polls are accurate. Pollsters
ask, "Who did you vote for?" Unfortunately, they don't ask the crucial,
question, "Was your vote counted?" The voters don't know Here's why.
Although the exit polls show that most voters in Ohio punched cards for
Kerry-Edwards, thousands of these votes were simply not recorded. This
was predictable and it was predicted. Once again, at the heart of the
Ohio uncounted vote game are, I'm sorry to report, hanging chads and
pregnant chads, plus some other ballot tricks old and new.

What You Can Do About Election Fraud
By Susan Truitt, Co-founder, CASE Ohio, Citizens' Alliance for Secure
Elections

Thank you all for your supportive responses to the allegations of
election fraud in the 2004 presidential election. Here are some concrete
actions that you can take that will make a difference.

Please keep your indignation alive and use that energy to raise the issue
publicly until the mass media can use the "F" word - fraud.

Please keep the energy going to help educate the public regarding the
devastating truth that our electoral process is broken and is being taken
over by right wing zealots and privatization.

Send financial donations to: www.blackboxvoting.org
<http://www.blackboxvoting.org/> , Bev Harris' site. She
is doing a world of good with her tenacious and brave work. She sent out
Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests to every county in the country,
and that type of effort requires funds. Read Black Box Voting, by Bev
Harris, available on the web, to arm yourself with the sad facts of a broken
electoral process.

Also, send donations to www.eff.org <http://www.eff.org/> . The
Electronic Frontier Foundation has
been instrumental in all litigation across the country relating to e-voting
(electronic voting).

Send donations to www.verifiedvoting.org
<http://www.verifiedvoting.org/> and www.votersunite.org
<http://www.votersunite.org/> and www.ballotintegrity.org
<http://www.ballotintegrity.org/> . These organizations have done a
lion's share of
getting the word out about what is wrong in this country's electoral
process.

Contact www.TrueMajority.org <http://www.truemajority.org/> and
www.moveon.org <http://www.moveon.org/> and www.commoncause.org
<http://www.commoncause.org/> and
tell them to help pursue a post-election challenge to the vote tallies.
Donate money to these organizations.

Write to your local newspapers to inform the public at large what is going
on. Tell them to cover the election debacle and tell them to use the "F"
word liberally.

FAX Ralph Nader, 202-265-0092, and tell him to file for recounts and
reexaminations of the tally in the states in which he was on the ballot.

Write to John Conyers (D - Mich), Ranking Member of the House Judiciary
Committee on the Constitution, who has requested a Congressional Hearing on
the 2004 election. Tell him you support the request and that you want him to
push for the hearing to be held as soon as possible.

Contact Information for John Conyers:
Washington DC E-Mail Address:
john.conyers@mail.house.gov <mailto:john.conyers@mail.house.gov>
Washington DC Web Address:
http://www.house.gov/conyers; <http://www.house.gov/conyers>
Washington DC Web Mail Address:
http://www.house.gov/conyers/letstalk.htm
<http://www.house.gov/conyers/letstalk.htm> ;
Washington DC Web Mail Address:
http://www.house.gov/writerep <http://www.house.gov/writerep> ;

Washington DC Address
2426 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515-2214
Phone: 202-225-5126
Fax: 202-225-0072

District Address - Detroit
Federal Building, Room 669
231 West Lafayette Boulevard
Detroit, MI 48226-2766
Phone: 313-961-5670
Fax: 313-226-2085

District Address - Southgate
DCC Building
15100 Northline Road, Suite 257
Southgate, MI 48195
Phone: 734-285-5624
Fax: 734-285-5943

Campaign Address
19512 Livernoise
Detroit, MI 48221
Phone: 313-864-3671

Write to George Soros and ask him to help fund litigation in Ohio and
Florida to challenge the vote tallies.

c/o Open Society Institute--New York
888 7th Avenue
New York, N.Y. 10106
United States of America
Telephone: +1-212-757-2323
Fax: +1-212-974-0367
E-mail: osnews@sorosny.org <mailto:osnews@sorosny.org>
Web: http://www.soros.org/gsbio.html <http://www.soros.org/gsbio.html> ;

Write to the DNC and ask why Senator Kerry capitulated so quickly - before
the information on the vote tallies was even beginning to come in. Tell them
that Senator Kerry needs to take back his concession. Democratic National
Committee, 430 South Capitol St SE, Washington, DC 20003. Their phone number
is 202-863-8000. Their web-site is: www.democrats.org
<http://www.democrats.org/> .

Contact the Kerry campaign and tell them that he has done a great disservice
to the American people by capitulating so quickly - before information could
be gathered. Tell him to reconsider in light of all that is coming to the
surface.

Contact National Headquarters
Kerry-Edwards 2004, Inc.
P.O. Box 34640
Washington, DC 20043
202-712-3000
202-712-3001 (fax)
202-336-6950 (TTY)

Stay in touch with CASE_OH@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:CASE_OH@yahoogroups.com> and www.caseohio.org
<http://www.caseohio.org/> .

Finally, forward this to all of you friends, acquaintances, listservs, etc.

Keep up the good fight.

Thank you.

Susan

Susan Truitt
Co-founder, CASE Ohio, Citizens' Alliance for Secure Elections
www.caseohio.org <http://www.caseohio.org/>
614-487-1759
614-270-5239

Go to http://www.thenation.com/ and read articles by people like Naomi
Klein and learn how Bush and Neocons are committing genocide for money
in Iraq and the rest of the world.
Stop watching Fox! Rupert Murdock is one of them. The truth is out
there. Look for it!
http://www.buzzflash.com
http://www.democracynow.org/index.pl
http://nowar.org/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/
http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
Angelo DePalma

2004-11-09, 6:45 am


Blow it out your ear.

Whiner. You just can't believe you lost legitimately, can you? Why are you
posting here?


"Marz" <marz@angryred.comic> wrote in message
news:m0Zjd.41031$tL5.18181@fe2.texas.rr.com...
quote:

> Here is a video done by People in Ohio about problems with the election
> there.
>
> http://www.metroblogging.com/videothevote/
>
> want more? read this:
>
> http://rwor.org/a/1257/elections-stolen.htm
>
> can ya read more? try this!:
>
> http://www.opednews.com/thoreau_110404_diebold.htm
>
> Here's some more food for thought:
>
> (11-05) 08:49 PST COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) --
>
> An error with an electronic voting system gave President Bush 3,893 extra
> votes in suburban Columbus, elections officials said.
>
> Franklin County's unofficial results had Bush receiving 4,258 votes to
> Democrat John Kerry's 260 votes in a precinct in Gahanna. Records show
> only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct.
>
> Bush actually received 365 votes in the precinct, Matthew Damschroder,
> director of the Franklin County Board of Elections, told The Columbus
> Dispatch.
>
> Another article:
>
> has given generously to
>
> From an article in The Hill
> by Dick Morris
>
> "Exit polls are almost never wrong. They eliminate the two major potential
> fallacies in survey research by correctly separating actual voters from
> those who pretend they will cast ballots but never do and by substituting
> actual observation for guesswork in judging the relative turnout of
> different parts of the state.
>
> So reliable are the surveys that actually tap voters as they leave the
> polling places that they are used as guides to the relative honesty of
> elections in Third World countries.
>
> So, according to ABC-TV’s exit polls, for example, Kerry was slated to
> carry Florida, Ohio, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada and Iowa, all of which
> Bush carried. The only swing state the network had going to Bush was West
> Virginia, which the president won by 10 points.
>
> To screw up one exit poll is unheard of. To miss six of them is
> incredible. It boggles the imagination how pollsters could be that
> incompetent and invites speculation that more than honest error was at
> play here.
>
> This was no mere mistake. Exit polls cannot be as wrong across the board
> as they were on election night. I suspect foul play."
>
> Now, he thinks that the polls were biased in an attempt to disuade voters.
> He says they counted too many women.
>
> apparently there was quite a bit of drama during election day with
> projections that Kerry was the frontrunner.
> on Dennis Millers show the following night, Lawrence O'Donnel Jr.
> senior polital analyst of msnbc said,
>
> "Yesterday afternoon everyone in Washington; everyone in the political
> game, firmly believed that John Kerry was going to sweep all the
> battleground states except Colorado. I spoke to people in Republican
> headquarters in D. C. at 4 pm who were wiping back tears."
>
> His take was that he was glad that exit polls have been proven wrong like
> the good republican that he is.
>
> Here's a post from a chat room of college kids on election day around 6pm,
> I think:
>
> "I seem to be getting different exit numbers than Kos (not to mention
> Drudge, who's NH number represent a 22% swing in three hours. I think
> not). I'm damn confident in my source though, so take it all as you will:
>
> FL: Kerry +1
> OH: Kerry +1
> MI: Kerry +4
> PA: Kerry +11
> IA: Even
> WI: Kerry +5
> MN: Kerry +18
> NH: Kerry +15
> NJ: Kerry +15
> ME: Kerry +11
> NV: Bush +2
> NM: Kerry +2
> NC: Bush +5
> CO: Bush +7
> VA: Bush +1 "
>
> This compares the two voting systems used in Florida.
>
> The machines that produced a verifyible audit trail (e-machines) were
> pretty
> much dead on.
> The machines that don't produce any sort of audit trail (op-scan) were
> overwhelmingly tallied for Bush.
>
> http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm
>
> In Baker County for Example:
> Registered Voters - 69.3% Democrat vs. 24.3% Republican
> Bush got 77.7% of the votes cast.
>
> Bradford County:
> Registered Voters - 61.4% Democrat vs. 28.3% Republican
> Bush got 69.6% of the votes cast.
>
> Lavayette County:
> Registered Voters - 82.8% Democrat vs. 13.2% Republican
> Bush got 73.98% of the votes cast.
>
> In many counties where Kerry should have easily won, there was and
> unbelieveable
> percentage of votes tallied for Bush.
>
> Then this, from boingboing.net
>
> * Palast: Kerry won, here's the facts.
>
> */Harper's Magazine/ contributing editor Greg Palast argues that election
> management in Ohio was hopelessly borked, and that the state was unfairly
> and inaccurately declared a win for Bush. Snip from editor's intro to his
> latest feature, on Tompaine.com:
> Bush won Ohio by 136,483 votes. Typically in the United States, about 3
> percent of votes cast are voided -- known as 'spoilage' in election
> jargon -- because the ballots cast are inconclusive. Drawing on what
> happened in Florida and studies of elections past, Palast argues that if
> Ohio's discarded ballots were counted, Kerry would have won the state.
> Today, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports there are a total of 247,672
> votes not counted in Ohio, if you add the 92,672 discarded votes plus the
> 155,000 provisional ballots. So far there's no indication that Palast's
> hypothesis will be tested because only the provisional ballots are being
> counted.
> And snip from Palast's story:
> Most voters in Ohio thought they were voting for Kerry. CNN's exit poll
> showed Kerry beating Bush among Ohio women by 53 percent to 47 percent.
> Kerry also defeated Bush among Ohio's male voters 51 percent to 49
> percent. Unless a third gender voted in Ohio, Kerry took the state.
>
> So what's going on here? Answer: the exit polls are accurate. Pollsters
> ask, "Who did you vote for?" Unfortunately, they don't ask the crucial,
> question, "Was your vote counted?" The voters don't know Here's why.
> Although the exit polls show that most voters in Ohio punched cards for
> Kerry-Edwards, thousands of these votes were simply not recorded. This was
> predictable and it was predicted. Once again, at the heart of the Ohio
> uncounted vote game are, I'm sorry to report, hanging chads and pregnant
> chads, plus some other ballot tricks old and new.
>
> What You Can Do About Election Fraud
> By Susan Truitt, Co-founder, CASE Ohio, Citizens' Alliance for Secure
> Elections
>
> Thank you all for your supportive responses to the allegations of election
> fraud in the 2004 presidential election. Here are some concrete actions
> that you can take that will make a difference.
>
> Please keep your indignation alive and use that energy to raise the issue
> publicly until the mass media can use the "F" word - fraud.
>
> Please keep the energy going to help educate the public regarding the
> devastating truth that our electoral process is broken and is being taken
> over by right wing zealots and privatization.
>
> Send financial donations to: www.blackboxvoting.org
> <http://www.blackboxvoting.org/> , Bev Harris' site. She
> is doing a world of good with her tenacious and brave work. She sent out
> Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests to every county in the country,
> and that type of effort requires funds. Read Black Box Voting, by Bev
> Harris, available on the web, to arm yourself with the sad facts of a
> broken
>electoral process.
>
> Also, send donations to www.eff.org <http://www.eff.org/> . The Electronic
> Frontier Foundation has
> been instrumental in all litigation across the country relating to
> e-voting
> (electronic voting).
>
> Send donations to www.verifiedvoting.org <http://www.verifiedvoting.org/>
> and www.votersunite.org <http://www.votersunite.org/> and
> www.ballotintegrity.org <http://www.ballotintegrity.org/> . These
> organizations have done a lion's share of
> getting the word out about what is wrong in this country's electoral
> process.
>
> Contact www.TrueMajority.org <http://www.truemajority.org/> and
> www.moveon.org <http://www.moveon.org/> and www.commoncause.org
> <http://www.commoncause.org/> and
> tell them to help pursue a post-election challenge to the vote tallies.
> Donate money to these organizations.
>
> Write to your local newspapers to inform the public at large what is going
> on. Tell them to cover the election debacle and tell them to use the "F"
> word liberally.
>
> FAX Ralph Nader, 202-265-0092, and tell him to file for recounts and
> reexaminations of the tally in the states in which he was on the ballot.
>
> Write to John Conyers (D - Mich), Ranking Member of the House Judiciary
> Committee on the Constitution, who has requested a Congressional Hearing
> on
> the 2004 election. Tell him you support the request and that you want him
> to
> push for the hearing to be held as soon as possible.
>
> Contact Information for John Conyers:
> Washington DC E-Mail Address:
> john.conyers@mail.house.gov <mailto:john.conyers@mail.house.gov>
> Washington DC Web Address:
> http://www.house.gov/conyers; <http://www.house.gov/conyers>
> Washington DC Web Mail Address:
> http://www.house.gov/conyers/letstalk.htm
> <http://www.house.gov/conyers/letstalk.htm> ;
> Washington DC Web Mail Address:
> http://www.house.gov/writerep <http://www.house.gov/writerep> ;
>
> Washington DC Address
> 2426 Rayburn House Office Building
> Washington, DC 20515-2214
> Phone: 202-225-5126
> Fax: 202-225-0072
>
> District Address - Detroit
> Federal Building, Room 669
> 231 West Lafayette Boulevard
> Detroit, MI 48226-2766
> Phone: 313-961-5670
> Fax: 313-226-2085
>
> District Address - Southgate
> DCC Building
> 15100 Northline Road, Suite 257
> Southgate, MI 48195
> Phone: 734-285-5624
> Fax: 734-285-5943
>
> Campaign Address
> 19512 Livernoise
> Detroit, MI 48221
> Phone: 313-864-3671
>
> Write to George Soros and ask him to help fund litigation in Ohio and
> Florida to challenge the vote tallies.
>
> c/o Open Society Institute--New York
> 888 7th Avenue
> New York, N.Y. 10106
> United States of America
> Telephone: +1-212-757-2323
> Fax: +1-212-974-0367
> E-mail: osnews@sorosny.org <mailto:osnews@sorosny.org>
> Web: http://www.soros.org/gsbio.html <http://www.soros.org/gsbio.html> ;
>
> Write to the DNC and ask why Senator Kerry capitulated so quickly - before
> the information on the vote tallies was even beginning to come in. Tell
> them
> that Senator Kerry needs to take back his concession. Democratic National
> Committee, 430 South Capitol St SE, Washington, DC 20003. Their phone
> number
> is 202-863-8000. Their web-site is: www.democrats.org
> <http://www.democrats.org/> .
>
> Contact the Kerry campaign and tell them that he has done a great
> disservice
> to the American people by capitulating so quickly - before information
> could
> be gathered. Tell him to reconsider in light of all that is coming to the
> surface.
>
> Contact National Headquarters
> Kerry-Edwards 2004, Inc.
> P.O. Box 34640
> Washington, DC 20043
> 202-712-3000
> 202-712-3001 (fax)
> 202-336-6950 (TTY)
>
> Stay in touch with CASE_OH@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:CASE_OH@yahoogroups.com> and www.caseohio.org
> <http://www.caseohio.org/> .
>
> Finally, forward this to all of you friends, acquaintances, listservs,
> etc.
>
> Keep up the good fight.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Susan
>
> Susan Truitt
> Co-founder, CASE Ohio, Citizens' Alliance for Secure Elections
> www.caseohio.org <http://www.caseohio.org/>
> 614-487-1759
> 614-270-5239
>
> Go to http://www.thenation.com/ and read articles by people like Naomi
> Klein and learn how Bush and Neocons are committing genocide for money in
> Iraq and the rest of the world.
> Stop watching Fox! Rupert Murdock is one of them. The truth is out there.
> Look for it!
> http://www.buzzflash.com
> http://www.democracynow.org/index.pl
> http://nowar.org/
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/
> http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage



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