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youhao

2005-06-04, 8:31 pm

C.K.Lai's 'Chinese Chess : An Introduction To The Openings' first
publishd in 1987, is now in its 2nd edition, just published by
Lightning Source UK Ltd, obtainable in Chinatown's bookshops and
through leading internet bookshops from 1st June 2005. Interestingly
C.K.Lai's book is edited by Grandmaster Ray Keene, author of a world
record 120 books on the International version of chess. He is also the
world's most widely read chess columnist - writing regularly in The
Times, The Sunday Times, The Spectator and the International Herald
Tribune.

Italy Anonymous Remailer

2005-06-04, 8:31 pm

In article <1117926692.746654.251020@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
"youhao" <cklailai@aol.com> wrote:
|
| C.K.Lai's 'Chinese Chess : An Introduction To The Openings' first
| publishd in 1987, is now in its 2nd edition, just published by
| Lightning Source UK Ltd, obtainable in Chinatown's bookshops and
| through leading internet bookshops from 1st June 2005. Interestingly
| C.K.Lai's book is edited by Grandmaster Ray Keene, author of a world
| record 120 books on the International version of chess. He is also the
| world's most widely read chess columnist - writing regularly in The
| Times, The Sunday Times, The Spectator and the International Herald
| Tribune.

Quite a commercial. Are you Ray Keene?


youhao

2005-06-05, 12:31 am

Commercial ? do you think so ? Do you care about Chinese Chess and know
enough about it ?

Keith

2005-06-05, 12:31 am

youhao wrote:
quote:

> C.K.Lai's 'Chinese Chess : An Introduction To The Openings' first
> publishd in 1987, is now in its 2nd edition, just published by
> Lightning Source UK Ltd, obtainable in Chinatown's bookshops and
> through leading internet bookshops from 1st June 2005. Interestingly
> C.K.Lai's book is edited by Grandmaster Ray Keene, author of a world
> record 120 books on the International version of chess. He is also the
> world's most widely read chess columnist - writing regularly in The
> Times, The Sunday Times, The Spectator and the International Herald
> Tribune.


Thanks for the information.

Regards,
Keith

Keith

2005-06-05, 3:30 am

Italy Anonymous Remailer wrote:
quote:

> In article <1117926692.746654.251020@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
> "youhao" <cklailai@aol.com> wrote:
> |
> | C.K.Lai's 'Chinese Chess : An Introduction To The Openings' first
> | publishd in 1987, is now in its 2nd edition, just published by
> | Lightning Source UK Ltd, obtainable in Chinatown's bookshops and
> | through leading internet bookshops from 1st June 2005. Interestingly
> | C.K.Lai's book is edited by Grandmaster Ray Keene, author of a world
> | record 120 books on the International version of chess. He is also the
> | world's most widely read chess columnist - writing regularly in The
> | Times, The Sunday Times, The Spectator and the International Herald
> | Tribune.
>
> Quite a commercial. Are you Ray Keene?


If you bothered to look in the header, it looks like this is the author
himself C.K. Lai.

See his web pages for more information:

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/cklailai2...newsletter.html

David H Li

2005-06-05, 8:31 pm

Keith wrote:
quote:

>Italy Anonymous Remailer wrote:
>
>
>
>If you bothered to look in the header, it looks like this is the author
>himself C.K. Lai.
>
>See his web pages for more information:
>
>http://hometown.aol.co.uk/cklailai2...newsletter.html
>
>

C. K. Lai is a good friend of mine; I last met him in Hong Kong in
December 2003, during the 8th WXC. We talked about joining our
resources for publishing books on Xiangqi in English, though nothing
concrete developed. A couple of days ago, CK sent me an e-mail, with a
link to his webpage. I immediately sent a response, congratulating him
on the publication of the second edition of his book on Openings. I
meant to post something along this line to this group, but, before I
could do it, he beat me to it.

A comment, reproduced above, feels that the post is "quite a
commercial." I tend to disagree. After all, this group intends to be
informative and hopes to be helpful. How often is a book on Xiangqi in
English published? About one a year would be my estimation. Should
readers to this group be informed when such a rare occasion appears? I
would answer it in an emphatic affirmative. Is the post, reproduced in
its entirety, a commercial? No. Unless you live in London, you
probably would have no definite handle as to where to get a copy. Nor
is the price given. Indeed, this post extends beyond what is in C.K's
link -- I did not know that Ray Keene is a grandmaster in western chess
until I read this post.

If you are a Xiangqi enthusiast, would you be offended for by this
post? Again, my answer is: No. Indeed, I rejoice at this development,
even this book is a potential competition to my books on Xiangqi. Why?
In order to attract more English-literate readers to Xiangqi, we need as
many books on the subject as authors are willing to write and publishers
willing to publish.

David Li
author of Premier Series on Xiangqi

Keith

2005-06-06, 3:30 am

David H Li wrote:
quote:

> Keith wrote:
>
> A comment, reproduced above, feels that the post is "quite a
> commercial." I tend to disagree. After all, this group intends to be
> informative and hopes to be helpful. How often is a book on Xiangqi in
> English published? About one a year would be my estimation. Should
> readers to this group be informed when such a rare occasion appears? I
> would answer it in an emphatic affirmative. Is the post, reproduced in
> its entirety, a commercial? No. Unless you live in London, you
> probably would have no definite handle as to where to get a copy. Nor
> is the price given. Indeed, this post extends beyond what is in C.K's
> link -- I did not know that Ray Keene is a grandmaster in western chess
> until I read this post.
>
> If you are a Xiangqi enthusiast, would you be offended for by this
> post? Again, my answer is: No. Indeed, I rejoice at this development,
> even this book is a potential competition to my books on Xiangqi. Why?
> In order to attract more English-literate readers to Xiangqi, we need as
> many books on the subject as authors are willing to write and publishers
> willing to publish.
>
> David Li
> author of Premier Series on Xiangqi


I'm certainly not offended by the post at all, but then again I can't
disagree that it's a good commercial. After all I immediately purchased
a copy on Amazon to show my support for English language Xiangqi
literature.

I don't think that English language Xiangqi writers need to worry about
competition. They need to worry about customers. Chess enthusiasts are
known for purchasing more books than is practical. But the number of
customers for English language Xiangqi may be quite small if the amount
of traffic on this newsgroup is an indication of the interest level.

Good luck in your future endeavors,
Keith

David H Li

2005-06-06, 8:32 pm

Let me first thank Keith for his contribution to Xiangqi in general and
to his assistance to me specifically. His response to my post yesterday
is indicative of his support to Xiangqi, and I, for one, am most
appreciative. However, as he excerpted my response as a lead-in to his,
it gives the impression that it is Keith who used the phrase "quite a
commercial." This is not the case. Keith's post is to clarify the
authorship of that substantive quote (it is the author, C.K. Lai,
himself) and to point to a link to C.K.'s website. (In other words, in
the excerpt quoted below, the two words "Keith wrote" in line 3 need to
be deleted)

Keith wrote:
quote:

>David H Li wrote:
>
>
>
>I'm certainly not offended by the post at all, but then again I can't
>disagree that it's a good commercial. After all I immediately purchased
>a copy on Amazon to show my support for English language Xiangqi
>literature.
>
>

Bravo. As to the first sentence, I always have trouble with double
negatives. The word "good" does not appear in the initial post to which
I responded. Since you bought a copy of the book immediately after
reading it, it is prima facie evidence that it is indeed "good" commercial.
quote:

>I don't think that English language Xiangqi writers need to worry about
>competition. They need to worry about customers. Chess enthusiasts are
>known for purchasing more books than is practical. But the number of
>customers for English language Xiangqi may be quite small if the amount
>of traffic on this newsgroup is an indication of the interest level.
>
>Good luck in your future endeavors,
>Keith
>
>

This is a dilemma. The initial post gives the impression that C.K.'s
message is inappropriate for this newsgroup. If not here, where? How
to communicate to the Xiangqi readership if this newsgroup is off
limits? If the traffic on this newsgroup is small, why take issue with
a post that is on-topic? C.K. is gainfully employed; I know his
objective in writing books on Xiangqi in English is to allow more
readers to gain access to the literature written in English. This is
also my objective, and I am a retired university professor who live very
simply. Given my life expectancy, I have at most one book on Xiangqi in
me. I hope C.K. will remain active for many decades to come.

David Li
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