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Author Re: Lasker and Alekhine - Nottingham, init!
Louis Blair

2006-11-19, 8:43 pm

Phil Innes wrote (Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:28:46 GMT):
7 ... And here is the cross table for the [Nottingham 1936]
7 tournament. Seems like Lasker did not only come 8th, but
7 came last!
7
7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Rest Total
7
7 1/2 Capablanca * 0 =BD =BD 1 1 =BD =BD 4 6 10 =A3175
7
7 7/8 Flohr 1 * =BD =BD 0 =BD =BD 1 4 4=BD 8=BD
7
7 3/5 Fine =BD =BD * =BD =BD =BD =BD 1 4 5=BD 9=BD =A358
7
7 1/2 Botvinnik =BD =BD =BD * =BD =BD =BD =BD 3=BD 6=BD 10 =A3175
7
7 6 Alekhine 0 1 =BD =BD * 0 1 =BD 3=BD 5=BD 9
7
7 3/5 Reshevsky 0 =BD =BD =BD 1 * 0 1 3=BD 6 9=BD =A358
7
7 3/5 Euwe =BD =BD =BD =BD 0 1 * 0 3 6=BD 9=BD =A358
7
7 7/8 Lasker =BD 0 0 =BD =BD 0 1 * 2=BD 6 8=BD
7 ...
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Taylor Kingston wrote (13 Nov 2006 16:30:58 -0800):
7 ... You present only about half of [the Nottingham 1936
7 crosstable]. Nottingham 1936 had a field of 15, not 8. You
7 have completely omitted Vidmar, Tartakower, Bogolyubov,
7 Tylor, Alexander, Thomas, and Winter. ... Lasker did not
7 finish last. ... Lasker finished =3D7-8th, tied with Flohr, not 8th.
7 ...
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Phil Innes wrote (Tue, 14 Nov 2006 02:25:28 GMT):
7 ... but again it is my fault for not listing all the players! and
7 sure, he didn't come last of all - but last after all these
7 people who Kingston reported he had dealt with previously
7 so as to have championed over them ...
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Taylor Kingston wrote (15 Nov 2006 11:23:28 -0800):
7 ... It certainly *_is_* your fault to say that Lasker came *_last_*
7 at Nottingham 1936. =3D7-8th is definitely *_not_* last in a field
7 of 15. No one said it but you, so who else's fault can it be? ...
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Rob Mitchell wrote (15 Nov 2006 11:38:57 -0800):
7 LOL. this is too funny. Sorry but I don't think a hair can be split
7 any farther. Did anyone finish below him? I think in most sports,
7 if noone finishes below you ,you are last. But I may be proven
7 wrong, wouldn't be the first time either. :-)
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I wrote (15 Nov 2006 13:44:56 -0800):
7 If one finishes above seven other players, then one is not last.
7 See above for details.

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Phil Innes wrote (Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:26:13 GMT):

7 If one finishes below 7 players, which is how it was recorded
7 when I posted it, then one is last in the group

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Phil Innes did not originally write "last in the group".
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"... Seems like Lasker did not only come 8th, but
came last! ..." - Phil Innes (Mon, 13 Nov 2006
21:28:46 GMT)
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In that note, Phil Innes also referred to a partial
cross table as "the cross table for the tournament."
See above for details.

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Phil Innes wrote (Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:26:13 GMT):

7 ... well... but I already conceded that. ...

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Conceded what?

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Phil Innes wrote (Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:26:13 GMT):

7 ... Louis, why not write to Hooper and mention
7 Kingston's comment of ignoramus, and see what
7 Santa brings? I'd do it myself but I have to go howl
7 at the moon.

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"... [David Hooper] died several years ago. ..."
- Taylor Kingston (15 Nov 2006 16:32:57 -0800)
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"... [The encyclopedia] does not make Innes'
error about Hastings 1935, ..." - Taylor Kingston
(15 Nov 2006 08:11:50 -0800)

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