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| samsloan 2006-11-19, 8:43 pm |
| Dear Mr. Truong,
In the course of my investigation of USCF finances, I have discovered
that you and the lovely Miss Polgar were paid a great deal of money by
the USCF in 2002 and 2003.
I am at a loss to explain why you were paid. Would you kindly explain
what these payments were for?
Also, you seem often to be paid two or three times for the same thing.
Almost every month, you get duplicate checks.
On page 441 on the records for the fiscal year 2003-2004, it says:
10/21/03 102003 PJ POLGAR CHESS INC. $13,538.36
I think I have figured out what this is. Take a look at the checks paid
to Polgar in December 2003:
12/1/03 62003 Polgar Chess Inc. 5932.50
12/5/03 60983 Polgar Chess Inc. 4105.86
12/15/03 61128 Polgar Chess Inc. 2000.00
12/16/03 61181 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
12/23/03 61255 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
12/23/03 61275 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
Now, add all these numbers up and you get exactly $13,538.36
Presto! Probably, he took one big payment and divided it up into a
bunch of small payments so that the total amount would be overlooked by
the board and not require two signatures.
Here are some rather interesting entries:
2002
6/10/02 56904 Gary Prince 7500.00
6/14/02 57039 Frank Niro 1100.00
7/11/02 57138 Frank Niro 2475.00
7/25/02 57262 Gary Prince 900.00
8/04/02 48099 Polgar Chess 1500.00
8/06/02 57326 University of Texas 1470.00
8/13/02 57415 Gary Prince 9300.00
9/02/02 57570 Gary Prince 900.00
9/13/02 57599 Gary Prince 2000.00
9/16/02 WT Greek Chess Federation 4524.10
9/27/02 57656 Diane Reese 1037.65
9/27/02 57657 (voided) Susan Polgar 2500.00
9/27/02 57663 Gary Prince 2000.00
10/9/02 57742 Polgar Chess Inc. 2500.00
10/9/02 57744 Gary Prince 1500.00
10/17/02 TW FIDE 20253.68
10/18/02 57872 Gary Prince 2198.00
11/08/02 58082 Gary Prince 2900.00
11/15/02 58137 Gary Prince 2600.00
11/22/02 58175 Polgar Chess Inc. 1164.55
11/22/02 58193 Gary Prince 3000.00
12/02/02 58258 Gary Prince 5000.00
12/03/02 58276 Susan Polgar 300.00
12/03/02 58304 Susan Polgar 300.00
12/06/02 58352 Gary Prince 2900.00
12/11/02 58385 Dustin Diamond 1250.00
12/20/02 54840 Polgar Chess Inc. 2500.00
12/20/02 54864 Excalibur 5871.43
12/26/02 58527 Roman Dzindzichas 3800.00
2003
1/06/03 58565 Excalibur 8691.69
1/14/03 58671 Frank Niro 494.00
1/16/03 58673 Frank Niro 809.78
2/3/03 58751 Gary Prince 4900.00
2/10/03 58763 Frank Niro 1807.57
2/20/03 58876 Gary Prince 4000.00
2/3/03 58982 Gary Prince 4000.00
2/20/03 58983 Gary Prince 4900.00
3/20/03 59134 Susan Polgar 500.00
3/20/03 59140 Paul Truong 100.00
3/21/03 59072 Frank Niro 2715.63
3/25/03 59222 Frank Niro 1150.00
3/31/03 59269 Frank Niro 1205.23
3/31/03 59270 Frank Niro 661.51
3/31/03 59271 Frank Niro 650.46
3/31/03 DW FIDE 11421.13
4/04/03 59274 Frank Niro 1150.00
4/04/03 59275 Frank Niro 1352.96
4/04/03 59276 Frank Niro 1204.11
4/04/03 59277 Frank Niro 1234.28
4/04/03 59304 Gary Prince 510.00
4/11/03 59353 Susan Polgar 500.00
4/14/03 59367 Gary Prince 1000.00
4/18/03 59391 Polgar Chess Inc. 1469.91
4/18/03 59409 Frank Niro 262.51
4/18/03 59414 UTD Dallas Chess 3600.00
4/21/03 59456 Polgar Chess Author 500.00
4/21/03 59484 Susan Polgar 500.00
4/25/03 59512 Gary Prince 2000.00
4/28/03 59577 Susan Polgar 576.00
4/28/03 59593 Polgar Chess Inc. 1469.91
4/28/03 59631 Susan Polgar 500.00
4/28/03 59636 Paul Hoainhan Truong 325.00
4/28/03 59643 Paul Hoainhan Truong 325.00
4/28/03 59669 Paul Hoainhan Truong 100.00
End of Month Balance Overdrawn by $17,907.14
5/08/03 59735 Gary Prince 3000.00
5/08/03 59736 Mike Nolan 3000.00
5/08/03 59737 Lev Alburt 1500.00
5/08/03 59738 Diane Reese 3410.00
5/20/03 59744 Lev Alburt 2710.80
5/27/03 59865 Gary Prince 720.80
5/30/03 59921 Jami Anson 1065.00
5/30/03 59924 Jami Anson 1076.71
Beginning Balance June 2003 Overdrawn by $70,862.23
6/15/03 48616 Gregory Kasparov 2500.00
6/19/03 59944 Addie Prince 4000.00
6/20/03 59994 Gary Prince 822.98
7/01/03 60057 Addie Prince 4000.00
7/03/03 60062 Gary Prince 650.00
7/11/03 60069 Addie Prince 4000.00
7/11/03 60098 Frank Niro 583.00
7/30/03 60155 Gary Prince 1000.00
8/01/03 60161 Randall Hough 2000.00
8/01/03 60170 Frank Niro 2618.85
8/07/03 48907 Frank Niro 1150.00
9/19/03 60461 (voided) Gary Prince 6000.00
9/19/03 60462 Gary Prince 878.08
9/19/03 60463 Gary Prince 3000.00
9/19/03 60464 Gary Prince 3000.00
9/26/03 60472 Frank Niro 800.00
10/21/03 TW FIDE 4192.65
10/27/03 60580 Addie Prince 5000.00
10/30/03 TW FIDE 1354.89
10/30/03 60655 Polgar Chess Authority 500.00
11/10/03 60720 Paul Hoainhan Truong 1035.00
11/10/03 60739 (voided) Polgar Chess Authority 500.00
11/12/03 60745 Polgar Chess Authority 500.00
11/17/03 60835 Diane Reese 1015.00
11/21/03 60898 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
11/21/03 60907 Paul Hoainhan Truong 140.00
11/21/03 60922 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
11/21/03 60931 Paul Hoainhan Truong 215.00
11/24/03 60937 Addie Prince 5000.00
12/1/03 62003 (voided) Polgar Chess Inc. 5932.50
12/5/03 60983 Polgar Chess Inc. 4105.86
12/5/03 61011 Harry D. Sabine 1005.30
12/15/03 61128 Polgar Chess Inc. 2000.00
12/16/03 61181 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
12/16/03 61185 Paul Hoainhan Truong 150.00
12/22/03 61223 Gary Prince 6500.00
12/23/03 61255 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
12/23/03 61275 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
2004
1/06/04 61339 Polgar Chess Inc. 2000.00
3/11/04 TW FIDE 22895.78
3/31/04 61807 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
4/17/04 61971 Polgar Chess Inc. 582.90
4/29/04 62013 Polgar Chess Inc. 5932.50
5/13/04 62102 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
5/14/04 62127 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
Kindly explain this rather curious pattern.
Naturally, we know that you would never embezzle funds from the USCF,
but I would just like to hear your explanation.
Sam Sloan
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| Chess Freak 2006-11-19, 8:43 pm |
| Sam Sloan... "Super Genius". Like Wile E. Coyote, Sam will never
catch the Roadrunner because he is lacking essential grey matter
between his ears.
"samsloan" <samhsloan@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1163382176.261729.56870@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> Dear Mr. Truong,
>
> In the course of my investigation of USCF finances, I have discovered
> that you and the lovely Miss Polgar were paid a great deal of money by
> the USCF in 2002 and 2003.
>
> Sam Sloan
>
| |
| Ange1o DePa1ma 2006-11-19, 8:43 pm |
| Is this the real Sam Sloan? Looks like this Gary Prince fellow has a pretty
sweet deal. What does he do?
"samsloan" <samhsloan@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1163382176.261729.56870@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
quote:
> Dear Mr. Truong,
>
> In the course of my investigation of USCF finances, I have discovered
> that you and the lovely Miss Polgar were paid a great deal of money by
> the USCF in 2002 and 2003.
>
> I am at a loss to explain why you were paid. Would you kindly explain
> what these payments were for?
>
> Also, you seem often to be paid two or three times for the same thing.
> Almost every month, you get duplicate checks.
>
> On page 441 on the records for the fiscal year 2003-2004, it says:
>
> 10/21/03 102003 PJ POLGAR CHESS INC. $13,538.36
>
>
> I think I have figured out what this is. Take a look at the checks paid
> to Polgar in December 2003:
>
> 12/1/03 62003 Polgar Chess Inc. 5932.50
> 12/5/03 60983 Polgar Chess Inc. 4105.86
> 12/15/03 61128 Polgar Chess Inc. 2000.00
> 12/16/03 61181 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
> 12/23/03 61255 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
> 12/23/03 61275 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
>
> Now, add all these numbers up and you get exactly $13,538.36
>
> Presto! Probably, he took one big payment and divided it up into a
> bunch of small payments so that the total amount would be overlooked by
> the board and not require two signatures.
>
> Here are some rather interesting entries:
>
> 2002
>
> 6/10/02 56904 Gary Prince 7500.00
> 6/14/02 57039 Frank Niro 1100.00
> 7/11/02 57138 Frank Niro 2475.00
> 7/25/02 57262 Gary Prince 900.00
> 8/04/02 48099 Polgar Chess 1500.00
> 8/06/02 57326 university of Texas 1470.00
> 8/13/02 57415 Gary Prince 9300.00
> 9/02/02 57570 Gary Prince 900.00
> 9/13/02 57599 Gary Prince 2000.00
> 9/16/02 WT Greek Chess Federation 4524.10
> 9/27/02 57656 Diane Reese 1037.65
> 9/27/02 57657 (voided) Susan Polgar 2500.00
> 9/27/02 57663 Gary Prince 2000.00
> 10/9/02 57742 Polgar Chess Inc. 2500.00
> 10/9/02 57744 Gary Prince 1500.00
> 10/17/02 TW FIDE 20253.68
> 10/18/02 57872 Gary Prince 2198.00
> 11/08/02 58082 Gary Prince 2900.00
> 11/15/02 58137 Gary Prince 2600.00
> 11/22/02 58175 Polgar Chess Inc. 1164.55
> 11/22/02 58193 Gary Prince 3000.00
> 12/02/02 58258 Gary Prince 5000.00
> 12/03/02 58276 Susan Polgar 300.00
> 12/03/02 58304 Susan Polgar 300.00
> 12/06/02 58352 Gary Prince 2900.00
> 12/11/02 58385 Dustin Diamond 1250.00
> 12/20/02 54840 Polgar Chess Inc. 2500.00
> 12/20/02 54864 Excalibur 5871.43
> 12/26/02 58527 Roman Dzindzichas 3800.00
>
> 2003
>
> 1/06/03 58565 Excalibur 8691.69
> 1/14/03 58671 Frank Niro 494.00
> 1/16/03 58673 Frank Niro 809.78
> 2/3/03 58751 Gary Prince 4900.00
> 2/10/03 58763 Frank Niro 1807.57
> 2/20/03 58876 Gary Prince 4000.00
> 2/3/03 58982 Gary Prince 4000.00
> 2/20/03 58983 Gary Prince 4900.00
> 3/20/03 59134 Susan Polgar 500.00
> 3/20/03 59140 Paul Truong 100.00
> 3/21/03 59072 Frank Niro 2715.63
> 3/25/03 59222 Frank Niro 1150.00
> 3/31/03 59269 Frank Niro 1205.23
> 3/31/03 59270 Frank Niro 661.51
> 3/31/03 59271 Frank Niro 650.46
> 3/31/03 DW FIDE 11421.13
> 4/04/03 59274 Frank Niro 1150.00
> 4/04/03 59275 Frank Niro 1352.96
> 4/04/03 59276 Frank Niro 1204.11
> 4/04/03 59277 Frank Niro 1234.28
> 4/04/03 59304 Gary Prince 510.00
> 4/11/03 59353 Susan Polgar 500.00
> 4/14/03 59367 Gary Prince 1000.00
> 4/18/03 59391 Polgar Chess Inc. 1469.91
> 4/18/03 59409 Frank Niro 262.51
> 4/18/03 59414 UTD Dallas Chess 3600.00
> 4/21/03 59456 Polgar Chess Author 500.00
> 4/21/03 59484 Susan Polgar 500.00
> 4/25/03 59512 Gary Prince 2000.00
> 4/28/03 59577 Susan Polgar 576.00
> 4/28/03 59593 Polgar Chess Inc. 1469.91
> 4/28/03 59631 Susan Polgar 500.00
> 4/28/03 59636 Paul Hoainhan Truong 325.00
> 4/28/03 59643 Paul Hoainhan Truong 325.00
> 4/28/03 59669 Paul Hoainhan Truong 100.00
>
> End of Month Balance Overdrawn by $17,907.14
>
> 5/08/03 59735 Gary Prince 3000.00
> 5/08/03 59736 Mike Nolan 3000.00
> 5/08/03 59737 Lev Alburt 1500.00
> 5/08/03 59738 Diane Reese 3410.00
> 5/20/03 59744 Lev Alburt 2710.80
> 5/27/03 59865 Gary Prince 720.80
> 5/30/03 59921 Jami Anson 1065.00
> 5/30/03 59924 Jami Anson 1076.71
>
> Beginning Balance June 2003 Overdrawn by $70,862.23
>
> 6/15/03 48616 Gregory Kasparov 2500.00
> 6/19/03 59944 Addie Prince 4000.00
> 6/20/03 59994 Gary Prince 822.98
> 7/01/03 60057 Addie Prince 4000.00
> 7/03/03 60062 Gary Prince 650.00
> 7/11/03 60069 Addie Prince 4000.00
> 7/11/03 60098 Frank Niro 583.00
> 7/30/03 60155 Gary Prince 1000.00
> 8/01/03 60161 Randall Hough 2000.00
> 8/01/03 60170 Frank Niro 2618.85
> 8/07/03 48907 Frank Niro 1150.00
> 9/19/03 60461 (voided) Gary Prince 6000.00
> 9/19/03 60462 Gary Prince 878.08
> 9/19/03 60463 Gary Prince 3000.00
> 9/19/03 60464 Gary Prince 3000.00
> 9/26/03 60472 Frank Niro 800.00
> 10/21/03 TW FIDE 4192.65
> 10/27/03 60580 Addie Prince 5000.00
> 10/30/03 TW FIDE 1354.89
> 10/30/03 60655 Polgar Chess Authority 500.00
> 11/10/03 60720 Paul Hoainhan Truong 1035.00
> 11/10/03 60739 (voided) Polgar Chess Authority 500.00
> 11/12/03 60745 Polgar Chess Authority 500.00
> 11/17/03 60835 Diane Reese 1015.00
> 11/21/03 60898 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
> 11/21/03 60907 Paul Hoainhan Truong 140.00
> 11/21/03 60922 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
> 11/21/03 60931 Paul Hoainhan Truong 215.00
> 11/24/03 60937 Addie Prince 5000.00
> 12/1/03 62003 (voided) Polgar Chess Inc. 5932.50
> 12/5/03 60983 Polgar Chess Inc. 4105.86
> 12/5/03 61011 Harry D. Sabine 1005.30
> 12/15/03 61128 Polgar Chess Inc. 2000.00
> 12/16/03 61181 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
> 12/16/03 61185 Paul Hoainhan Truong 150.00
> 12/22/03 61223 Gary Prince 6500.00
> 12/23/03 61255 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
> 12/23/03 61275 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
>
> 2004
>
> 1/06/04 61339 Polgar Chess Inc. 2000.00
> 3/11/04 TW FIDE 22895.78
> 3/31/04 61807 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
> 4/17/04 61971 Polgar Chess Inc. 582.90
> 4/29/04 62013 Polgar Chess Inc. 5932.50
> 5/13/04 62102 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
> 5/14/04 62127 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
>
> Kindly explain this rather curious pattern.
>
> Naturally, we know that you would never embezzle funds from the USCF,
> but I would just like to hear your explanation.
>
> Sam Sloan
>
| |
|
|
Who is Gary Prince sir?
EZoto
| |
| parrthenon@cs.com 2006-11-19, 8:43 pm |
| A QUESTION IS NOT AN ACCUSATION
<Now, kindly tell us what this payment was for:>
1/15/05 63296 William H. Brock
1953.00
politikalhack@gmail.com wrote:
quote:
> I suggest that you investigate prior to making yet another reckless
public accusation. You are judgment-proof; USCF is not.>
| |
| Chess Freak 2006-11-19, 8:43 pm |
| It isn't?
"When did you stop screwing your mother, Parrthenon?"
<parrthenon@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1163428263.736587.166980@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
quote:
>A QUESTION IS NOT AN ACCUSATION
>
> <Now, kindly tell us what this payment was for:>
>
> 1/15/05 63296 William H. Brock
> 1953.00
>
>
> politikalhack@gmail.com wrote:
> public accusation. You are judgment-proof; USCF is not.>
>
| |
|
| If Bill Brock got $1953 for accounting fees, why he is so touchy about
it?
parrthenon@cs.com wrote:
quote:
> A QUESTION IS NOT AN ACCUSATION
>
> <Now, kindly tell us what this payment was for:>
>
> 1/15/05 63296 William H. Brock
> 1953.00
>
>
> politikalhack@gmail.com wrote:
> public accusation. You are judgment-proof; USCF is not.>
| |
| marcus@stkittsnevischess.org 2006-11-19, 8:43 pm |
| Good post!
I'll contribute another 25 dollars for that post. You tell me if that
XXXXig lesiban XXXXX susan polgar bothers you. FIDE has a specail
agenda for women's issues.
Marcus Roberts
samsloan wrote:
quote:
> Dear Mr. Truong,
>
> In the course of my investigation of USCF finances, I have discovered
> that you and the lovely Miss Polgar were paid a great deal of money by
> the USCF in 2002 and 2003.
>
> I am at a loss to explain why you were paid. Would you kindly explain
> what these payments were for?
>
> Also, you seem often to be paid two or three times for the same thing.
> Almost every month, you get duplicate checks.
>
> On page 441 on the records for the fiscal year 2003-2004, it says:
>
> 10/21/03 102003 PJ POLGAR CHESS INC. $13,538.36
>
>
> I think I have figured out what this is. Take a look at the checks paid
> to Polgar in December 2003:
>
> 12/1/03 62003 Polgar Chess Inc. 5932.50
> 12/5/03 60983 Polgar Chess Inc. 4105.86
> 12/15/03 61128 Polgar Chess Inc. 2000.00
> 12/16/03 61181 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
> 12/23/03 61255 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
> 12/23/03 61275 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
>
> Now, add all these numbers up and you get exactly $13,538.36
>
> Presto! Probably, he took one big payment and divided it up into a
> bunch of small payments so that the total amount would be overlooked by
> the board and not require two signatures.
>
> Here are some rather interesting entries:
>
> 2002
>
> 6/10/02 56904 Gary Prince 7500.00
> 6/14/02 57039 Frank Niro 1100.00
> 7/11/02 57138 Frank Niro 2475.00
> 7/25/02 57262 Gary Prince 900.00
> 8/04/02 48099 Polgar Chess 1500.00
> 8/06/02 57326 University of Texas 1470.00
> 8/13/02 57415 Gary Prince 9300.00
> 9/02/02 57570 Gary Prince 900.00
> 9/13/02 57599 Gary Prince 2000.00
> 9/16/02 WT Greek Chess Federation 4524.10
> 9/27/02 57656 Diane Reese 1037.65
> 9/27/02 57657 (voided) Susan Polgar 2500.00
> 9/27/02 57663 Gary Prince 2000.00
> 10/9/02 57742 Polgar Chess Inc. 2500.00
> 10/9/02 57744 Gary Prince 1500.00
> 10/17/02 TW FIDE 20253.68
> 10/18/02 57872 Gary Prince 2198.00
> 11/08/02 58082 Gary Prince 2900.00
> 11/15/02 58137 Gary Prince 2600.00
> 11/22/02 58175 Polgar Chess Inc. 1164.55
> 11/22/02 58193 Gary Prince 3000.00
> 12/02/02 58258 Gary Prince 5000.00
> 12/03/02 58276 Susan Polgar 300.00
> 12/03/02 58304 Susan Polgar 300.00
> 12/06/02 58352 Gary Prince 2900.00
> 12/11/02 58385 Dustin Diamond 1250.00
> 12/20/02 54840 Polgar Chess Inc. 2500.00
> 12/20/02 54864 Excalibur 5871.43
> 12/26/02 58527 Roman Dzindzichas 3800.00
>
> 2003
>
> 1/06/03 58565 Excalibur 8691.69
> 1/14/03 58671 Frank Niro 494.00
> 1/16/03 58673 Frank Niro 809.78
> 2/3/03 58751 Gary Prince 4900.00
> 2/10/03 58763 Frank Niro 1807.57
> 2/20/03 58876 Gary Prince 4000.00
> 2/3/03 58982 Gary Prince 4000.00
> 2/20/03 58983 Gary Prince 4900.00
> 3/20/03 59134 Susan Polgar 500.00
> 3/20/03 59140 Paul Truong 100.00
> 3/21/03 59072 Frank Niro 2715.63
> 3/25/03 59222 Frank Niro 1150.00
> 3/31/03 59269 Frank Niro 1205.23
> 3/31/03 59270 Frank Niro 661.51
> 3/31/03 59271 Frank Niro 650.46
> 3/31/03 DW FIDE 11421.13
> 4/04/03 59274 Frank Niro 1150.00
> 4/04/03 59275 Frank Niro 1352.96
> 4/04/03 59276 Frank Niro 1204.11
> 4/04/03 59277 Frank Niro 1234.28
> 4/04/03 59304 Gary Prince 510.00
> 4/11/03 59353 Susan Polgar 500.00
> 4/14/03 59367 Gary Prince 1000.00
> 4/18/03 59391 Polgar Chess Inc. 1469.91
> 4/18/03 59409 Frank Niro 262.51
> 4/18/03 59414 UTD Dallas Chess 3600.00
> 4/21/03 59456 Polgar Chess Author 500.00
> 4/21/03 59484 Susan Polgar 500.00
> 4/25/03 59512 Gary Prince 2000.00
> 4/28/03 59577 Susan Polgar 576.00
> 4/28/03 59593 Polgar Chess Inc. 1469.91
> 4/28/03 59631 Susan Polgar 500.00
> 4/28/03 59636 Paul Hoainhan Truong 325.00
> 4/28/03 59643 Paul Hoainhan Truong 325.00
> 4/28/03 59669 Paul Hoainhan Truong 100.00
>
> End of Month Balance Overdrawn by $17,907.14
>
> 5/08/03 59735 Gary Prince 3000.00
> 5/08/03 59736 Mike Nolan 3000.00
> 5/08/03 59737 Lev Alburt 1500.00
> 5/08/03 59738 Diane Reese 3410.00
> 5/20/03 59744 Lev Alburt 2710.80
> 5/27/03 59865 Gary Prince 720.80
> 5/30/03 59921 Jami Anson 1065.00
> 5/30/03 59924 Jami Anson 1076.71
>
> Beginning Balance June 2003 Overdrawn by $70,862.23
>
> 6/15/03 48616 Gregory Kasparov 2500.00
> 6/19/03 59944 Addie Prince 4000.00
> 6/20/03 59994 Gary Prince 822.98
> 7/01/03 60057 Addie Prince 4000.00
> 7/03/03 60062 Gary Prince 650.00
> 7/11/03 60069 Addie Prince 4000.00
> 7/11/03 60098 Frank Niro 583.00
> 7/30/03 60155 Gary Prince 1000.00
> 8/01/03 60161 Randall Hough 2000.00
> 8/01/03 60170 Frank Niro 2618.85
> 8/07/03 48907 Frank Niro 1150.00
> 9/19/03 60461 (voided) Gary Prince 6000.00
> 9/19/03 60462 Gary Prince 878.08
> 9/19/03 60463 Gary Prince 3000.00
> 9/19/03 60464 Gary Prince 3000.00
> 9/26/03 60472 Frank Niro 800.00
> 10/21/03 TW FIDE 4192.65
> 10/27/03 60580 Addie Prince 5000.00
> 10/30/03 TW FIDE 1354.89
> 10/30/03 60655 Polgar Chess Authority 500.00
> 11/10/03 60720 Paul Hoainhan Truong 1035.00
> 11/10/03 60739 (voided) Polgar Chess Authority 500.00
> 11/12/03 60745 Polgar Chess Authority 500.00
> 11/17/03 60835 Diane Reese 1015.00
> 11/21/03 60898 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
> 11/21/03 60907 Paul Hoainhan Truong 140.00
> 11/21/03 60922 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
> 11/21/03 60931 Paul Hoainhan Truong 215.00
> 11/24/03 60937 Addie Prince 5000.00
> 12/1/03 62003 (voided) Polgar Chess Inc. 5932.50
> 12/5/03 60983 Polgar Chess Inc. 4105.86
> 12/5/03 61011 Harry D. Sabine 1005.30
> 12/15/03 61128 Polgar Chess Inc. 2000.00
> 12/16/03 61181 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
> 12/16/03 61185 Paul Hoainhan Truong 150.00
> 12/22/03 61223 Gary Prince 6500.00
> 12/23/03 61255 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
> 12/23/03 61275 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
>
> 2004
>
> 1/06/04 61339 Polgar Chess Inc. 2000.00
> 3/11/04 TW FIDE 22895.78
> 3/31/04 61807 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
> 4/17/04 61971 Polgar Chess Inc. 582.90
> 4/29/04 62013 Polgar Chess Inc. 5932.50
> 5/13/04 62102 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
> 5/14/04 62127 Polgar Chess Inc. 500.00
>
> Kindly explain this rather curious pattern.
>
> Naturally, we know that you would never embezzle funds from the USCF,
> but I would just like to hear your explanation.
>
> Sam Sloan
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marcus@stkittsnevischess.org wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Good post!
>
> I'll contribute another 25 dollars for that post. You tell me if that
> XXXXig lesiban XXXXX susan polgar bothers you. FIDE has a specail
> agenda for women's issues.
>
> Marcus Roberts
>
> samsloan wrote:
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| Chess One 2006-11-19, 8:43 pm |
| > It seems as if an inordinate amount of effort and time is being
quote:
> expended attacking GM Polgar and Mr. Troung. Why?
>
> Rob
Have you actually read this thread?
**Well, I certainly have.
Mr. Truong has been attacking me, the rest of the board, the Kasparov
Chess Foundation and a wide variety of other people for the past
several months.
**I cannot help but notice that his responses to you are reciprocal, and
that it was you who initiated the issue, and I agree with Rob Mitchell that
it does seem inordinate, and not separate from your personal relations with
the person he represents. As to the other parties you mention, the KCF and
Board issue is no doubt relating to the past Olympiad.
He constantly complains that he is owed money and threatens suit.
**The role of a business manager is to do exactly that, if people won't pay
their bills, the law exists as a remedy to unscrupulous people from
contracting for goods and services, then not paying for them as they agreed
to do.
He has posted more than 300 personal attacks on me since July, calling
me a "Sexual Predator" and a child molester when these allegations
have no basis in fact. Most of these posts are at
http://www.uschess.org/forums
**For myself, I have very [very!] liberal opinions, and while I think your
writing does not respect women sufficiently [you seem to regard them only as
much as they are of sexual interest to men - which is, frankly, a juvenile
perspective], on the other hand I do not see anything in the nature of
child-molesting that cannot be differentiated from this first issue.
**In terms of the subjects of women in chess, or indeed of children in
chess, I hope that you, Sam Sloan, will understand that their motives are
different, from a very different basis in resenting an approach which rests
altogether too much on male sexual or lubricious perspectives, which you
must admit, you can hardly deny you encourage.
**This is not to say that your own approach is worse than some others! At
the very least you own your perspectives while I would consider the writing
of some other people I have encountered on the scholastic scene to be
entirely more sinistre, as they seem to be repressives and more likely to
act against the best interests of non-adult males in chess! But no more of
that here.
HERE IS THE REAL PROBLEM:-
**The more serious business of attending to the main scholastic market in
chess in the USA, which is all its future, cannot rest on these personality
foundations, preferences of likes and dislikes, entirely because they
contain no pedagogical aspect, nor attention to /other people's/ motivation
for taking up the game, and the supremely important factor of sustaining
their interest in it.
**No amount of control polities from the USCF Executive Board have any
effect either, without they address these core issues.
Now, I have found out that he has been regularly receiving checks from
the USCF for as much as $2500 per month since June 2002. He clearly
had done nothing to entitle him to receive these funds.
**This is the least interesting aspect of the message, since 'up to' means
anything from $1+, right? I am also less than clear if Mr. Truong has
personally received the funds, or as acting as officer for the SPF, if these
amounts are payment for a column, or past Olympiad debt. But I do not make
these direct questions, because I do not quite like the way you present the
information.
Phil Innes
The rest of the board did not know about this until two days ago when
I forced the office finally to cough up the information about how much
money was being paid to Truong.
Sam Sloan
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Chess One wrote:
quote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Have you actually read this thread?
>
> **Well, I certainly have.
As have I.
quote:
> Mr. Truong has been attacking me, the rest of the board, the Kasparov
> Chess Foundation and a wide variety of other people for the past
> several months.
>
> **I cannot help but notice that his responses to you are reciprocal, and
> that it was you who initiated the issue, and I agree with Rob Mitchell that
> it does seem inordinate, and not separate from your personal relations with
> the person he represents. As to the other parties you mention, the KCF and
> Board issue is no doubt relating to the past Olympiad.
I agree with Phil
quote:
> He constantly complains that he is owed money and threatens suit.
>
> **The role of a business manager is to do exactly that, if people won't pay
> their bills, the law exists as a remedy to unscrupulous people from
> contracting for goods and services, then not paying for them as they agreed
> to do.
As would any manager or even an apartment property manager.
quote:
> He has posted more than 300 personal attacks on me since July, calling
> me a "Sexual Predator" and a child molester when these allegations
> have no basis in fact. Most of these posts are at
> http://www.uschess.org/forums
>
> **For myself, I have very [very!] liberal opinions, and while I think your
> writing does not respect women sufficiently [you seem to regard them only as
> much as they are of sexual interest to men - which is, frankly, a juvenile
> perspective], on the other hand I do not see anything in the nature of
> child-molesting that cannot be differentiated from this first issue.
There are certain standards of decency that every society decides for
itself. I will not pass judgement one way or the other. I would point
out that the social mores of a South Pacific Islander would most likely
be found abborant in Nebraska. In society one must conform to a degree
in order to propser.
quote:
> **In terms of the subjects of women in chess, or indeed of children in
> chess, I hope that you, Sam Sloan, will understand that their motives are
> different, from a very different basis in resenting an approach which rests
> altogether too much on male sexual or lubricious perspectives, which you
> must admit, you can hardly deny you encourage.
Parents will make a concious choice in whom they entrust their
children. Anyone or any organization that appears tainted will become
"deselected" as a place to send children.
quote:
> **This is not to say that your own approach is worse than some others! At
> the very least you own your perspectives while I would consider the writing
> of some other people I have encountered on the scholastic scene to be
> entirely more sinistre, as they seem to be repressives and more likely to
> act against the best interests of non-adult males in chess! But no more of
> that here.
>
> HERE IS THE REAL PROBLEM:-
quote:
> **The more serious business of attending to the main scholastic market in
> chess in the USA, which is all its future, cannot rest on these personality
> foundations, preferences of likes and dislikes, entirely because they
> contain no pedagogical aspect, nor attention to /other people's/ motivation
> for taking up the game, and the supremely important factor of sustaining
> their interest in it.
Yes!
quote:
> **No amount of control polities from the USCF Executive Board have any
> effect either, without they address these core issues.
And I add, personality battles and turf wars over self agrandisement do
nothing to make the USCF apprear a desirable organization.
quote:
> Now, I have found out that he has been regularly receiving checks from
> the USCF for as much as $2500 per month since June 2002. He clearly
> had done nothing to entitle him to receive these funds.
I would have to say that it is not clear that he has not. It is an
opinion that you hold that he has not.
quote:
> **This is the least interesting aspect of the message, since 'up to' means
> anything from $1+, right? I am also less than clear if Mr. Truong has
> personally received the funds, or as acting as officer for the SPF, if these
> amounts are payment for a column, or past Olympiad debt. But I do not make
> these direct questions, because I do not quite like the way you present the
> information.
>
> Phil Innes
>
> The rest of the board did not know about this until two days ago when
> I forced the office finally to cough up the information about how much
> money was being paid to Truong.
There should be purchase orders corresponding to each check paid out.
Each of those purchase orders should reflect the contract in reference
the payment is requested for.
This may point out to a lack of adequate rules and regulations on
purchase order requisitions and an overly strong executive board . If
Mr. Hall were permitted to run the USCF as a business instead of how it
is currently being operated then the there might not be the need to
violate Napoleons directive on "airing ones dirty laundry in public".
Rob
quote:
> Sam Sloan
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| Chess One 2006-11-19, 8:44 pm |
|
"Rob" <robmtchl@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1163529217.734548.253180@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
quote:
>
> Chess One wrote:
>
>
>
>
> As have I.
>
>
>
> I agree with Phil
>
>
>
> As would any manager or even an apartment property manager.
>
>
>
>
>
> There are certain standards of decency that every society decides for
> itself. I will not pass judgement one way or the other. I would point
> out that the social mores of a South Pacific Islander would most likely
> be found abborant in Nebraska. In society one must conform to a degree
> in order to propser.
If Sloan's activities were illegal, which means that they do not meet a
minimum requirement in society, he would have been prosecuted.
When USCF were asked about something higher than a minimum legal standard
for any officer or agent - in fact, an ethical standard - they did not reply
to not theoretical complaints, but ACTUAL complaints. By not reply, I mean,
not even acknowledge.
This was way before the election, and in fact did not concern Sloan.
That is why the SPF can do so well in attracting sponsors and relatively
high [for chess] media attention, when USCF flounders around in its
maintenance role.
This also means that USCF is content to be passive on the issue of the
well-being of kids - and everything I wrote about that subject, and you
wrote, received replies based on the welfare of USCF as a business. I
suggest this is why the organisation seems to have been in 2nd place now for
years and why the SPF can link with 10,000 new young chess players NOT in
USCF.
Evidently the general public consider entrusting our children to agents who
treat them in more than a minimal way and as a business opportunity.
quote:
>
>
> Parents will make a concious choice in whom they entrust their
> children. Anyone or any organization that appears tainted will become
> "deselected" as a place to send children.
Although this has not happened in this case. There is no particular up or
down swing I can notice in membership numbers.On the organisational side
there is only the usual failure to achieve an 'up' in financial matters. And
this is where USCF suffers in comparison to SPF.
quote:
>
>
>
>
> Yes!
It is easy, Rob, to find intellectual agreement on this point - but not
sincere agreement in the sense that people also engage it emotionally and DO
something about it. When I interviewed President Marinello, she made
retention of scholastic players a prime goal of her tenure - but for the
life of me, I can't find a single thing she did to achieve it.
Although a web-based entity can offer far more space for interviews than can
a print magazine, I didn't notice anything on the /prime/ topic occuring
even in chess life. When other people [than Sloan] caused affront to the
public with Whoring in Budapest, everyone regretted it, and no one took
responsibility.
What I resent to large degree is scapegoating Sloan for patterns of activity
that have long existed at USCF, as if, you know, he had gatuitously
affronted a congregation of nuns while wearing his board hat and nothing
else - and while I do not absolve him for his juvenalia, nor think those are
sufficient perspectives to determine scholastic policy, neither do I think
other USCF agents are much different, or even interested in attracting and
maintaining young people in chess.
quote:
>
> And I add, personality battles and turf wars over self agrandisement do
> nothing to make the USCF apprear a desirable organization.
How so much secrecy in its governance, and so little outer effect can
seriously be considered as likely to be desirable, is bizarre!
quote:
>
>
> I would have to say that it is not clear that he has not. It is an
> opinion that you hold that he has not.
>
>
>
>
> There should be purchase orders corresponding to each check paid out.
> Each of those purchase orders should reflect the contract in reference
> the payment is requested for.
I have seen maybe a dozen which were posted, which paid for travel of SPF
people to USCF events at USCF's invitation. They seem to be hotel and
airline bills, and Paul never bought Susan any emeralds that I can see. She
certainly never bought him any ties - they have to be his own choices 
quote:
> This may point out to a lack of adequate rules and regulations on
> purchase order requisitions and an overly strong executive board .
Rules and regulations become employed or ignored according to political
will. Even the ethics committee do not seem to have made any statement which
isn't secret about a current board member.
Obviously this does the opposite of engendering trust.
quote:
> If
> Mr. Hall were permitted to run the USCF as a business instead of how it
> is currently being operated then the there might not be the need to
> violate Napoleons directive on "airing ones dirty laundry in public".
I personally would rather it all got aired in public, since the basement is
getting to really stink - and as numerous commentators have remarked about
USCF, light and air are the best disinfectants.
Phil Innes
quote:
> Rob
>
>
>
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| Jürgen R. 2006-11-19, 8:44 pm |
| On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:08:37 GMT, EZoto <xeuclidesx@yahoo.com> wrote:
quote:
>
>Who is Gary Prince sir?
That's one of Sam Sloans pseudonyms.
quote:
>
>EZoto
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| samsloan 2006-11-19, 8:44 pm |
| J=FCrgen R. wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:08:37 GMT, EZoto <xeuclidesx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> That's one of Sam Sloans pseudonyms.
>
Not true. Gary Prince was a computer consultant. I believe that he did
fine work.
However, I was shocked to see how much he was paid.
Gary and his wife Addie Prince were apparently receiving $5,000 per
month and sometimes more.
At least he did something. I find that preferable to employees who get
$4,000 per month and do nothing.
Sam Sloan
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| Jürgen R. 2006-11-19, 8:44 pm |
| On 16 Nov 2006 08:05:09 -0800, "samsloan" <samhsloan@gmail.com> wrote:
quote:
>Jürgen R. wrote:
>
>Not true. Gary Prince was a computer consultant. I believe that he did
>fine work.
>
>However, I was shocked to see how much he was paid.
>
>Gary and his wife Addie Prince were apparently receiving $5,000 per
>month and sometimes more.
>
>At least he did something. I find that preferable to employees who get
>$4,000 per month and do nothing.
I agree. That's pitiful. The American dream begins at $20,000 a month
while doing nothing.
quote:
>
>Sam Sloan
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J=FCrgen R. wrote:
quote:
>
> I agree. That's pitiful. The American dream begins at $20,000 a month
> while doing nothing.
Mann muss lachen, denn es gibt wenigstens ein bisschen Wahrheit da,
J=FCrgen.
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