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| Dallas 2006-03-24, 2:02 pm |
| I don't know if I can explain this very well, but I thank FS for giving me
the knowledge to understand the real differences between aircraft. I'm not
talking about the kind of knowledge you get from reading a book of
specifications, I'm talking about a gut level understanding of the
advantages and limitations of various aircraft you can only get through
experience.
If I'm going to sim fly from Dallas to Florida, I would not pick a C172. I
understand that making that flight in a C172 would be pretty difficult and
perhaps even unpleasant. That flight would require grinding away for hours
in a very fatiguing flight.
I understand that a C182, even though it looks a lot like a C172 would
actually be a much easier flight because of that little extra speed, power
and range. I have a gut level understanding of the advantages of more range
and the corresponding change of time en route.
I understand that a Baron would be a much more reasonable choice for trip
like that. I have a gut level understanding of how much faster a Baron is
compared to a C182 and what that means in terms of time. Then, I also have
the perspective that filling up the tanks on a Baron would cost my credit
card about $600 bucks.
I understand that a Piper Meridian would really be far superior method of
transportation for a trip like that. The Meridian can lift you above the
weather hassles and push you along at 250 knots making a trip like that easy
and pleasant. An aircraft like this can change the entire experience of
getting there.
I've also gained a perspective of cockpit workloads between old and new
technologies. The older King Airs require long checklists and worn out
fingers from all the switches it takes to get them into the air. A modern
aircraft like a Pilatus PC-12 has a very short checklist and a low workload
thanks to modern electronics. You also get to experience the actual
benefits of a low workload aircraft vs. a high workload aircraft when things
get busy in the cockpit. I've experienced being rushed and behind the
aircraft, and being in control without much effort.
We're getting the kind of hands-on perspective here that would take a real
world pilot a lot of time and money to gain.
Dallas
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| SnakeEyes 2006-03-24, 2:03 pm |
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Dallas wrote:
quote:
> We're getting the kind of hands-on perspective here that would take a real
> world pilot a lot of time and money to gain.
>
> Dallas
You're lucky. When I get a 'gut feeling', it's usually because I need
to go to the bathroom. : )
I definitely share your sentiments although I feel you know more about
flying than I do (technically and otherwise). However, I still retain
the idea I'm using a simulator and as conscientious as I am about how I
use it, I don't treat the program with as much thoughtfulness. I climb
into the left seat of my default 737, start 'er up and fly wherever
want to.
Your thoughts are excellent, you way is excellent, and you're using the
program to its full advantage. It's creative thinking such as yours
which will keep your mind sharp and your soul young. Have a nice trip
and say 'hello' to the bikinis for me, even though they're simulated :
)
SnakeEyes
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| John Ward 2006-03-24, 2:03 pm |
| Hi Varmit,
Unusual for you, mate - what's really on your mind? i.e. can you
crystallise your thoughts any further?
I'm guessing this is flight instruction related?
Regards,
John Ward
"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
news:xVNTf.5469$x94.851@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
quote:
>I don't know if I can explain this very well, but I thank FS for giving me
> the knowledge to understand the real differences between aircraft. I'm
> not
> talking about the kind of knowledge you get from reading a book of
> specifications, I'm talking about a gut level understanding of the
> advantages and limitations of various aircraft you can only get through
> experience.
>
> If I'm going to sim fly from Dallas to Florida, I would not pick a C172.
> I
> understand that making that flight in a C172 would be pretty difficult and
> perhaps even unpleasant. That flight would require grinding away for
> hours
> in a very fatiguing flight.
>
> I understand that a C182, even though it looks a lot like a C172 would
> actually be a much easier flight because of that little extra speed, power
> and range. I have a gut level understanding of the advantages of more
> range
> and the corresponding change of time en route.
>
> I understand that a Baron would be a much more reasonable choice for trip
> like that. I have a gut level understanding of how much faster a Baron is
> compared to a C182 and what that means in terms of time. Then, I also
> have
> the perspective that filling up the tanks on a Baron would cost my credit
> card about $600 bucks.
>
> I understand that a Piper Meridian would really be far superior method of
> transportation for a trip like that. The Meridian can lift you above the
> weather hassles and push you along at 250 knots making a trip like that
> easy
> and pleasant. An aircraft like this can change the entire experience of
> getting there.
>
> I've also gained a perspective of cockpit workloads between old and new
> technologies. The older King Airs require long checklists and worn out
> fingers from all the switches it takes to get them into the air. A modern
> aircraft like a Pilatus PC-12 has a very short checklist and a low
> workload
> thanks to modern electronics. You also get to experience the actual
> benefits of a low workload aircraft vs. a high workload aircraft when
> things
> get busy in the cockpit. I've experienced being rushed and behind the
> aircraft, and being in control without much effort.
>
> We're getting the kind of hands-on perspective here that would take a real
> world pilot a lot of time and money to gain.
>
> Dallas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| John Ward 2006-03-24, 2:03 pm |
| Hi SnakeEyes,
Hey, Whoa, easy on there big fella - Varmit will end up with a big head
if you keep that going, and he's already got one - no, no, I mean one of
those, not one of those, no, sorry, I mean one of those, not one of those,
errrr.......... :-)))
Geeze, so you've got another Birthday coming up, and winter too - that
doesn't mean you have to get all morose and reflective, all of a sudden,
mate!? :-))
Varmit's, hopefully, finally taken the plunge, and started shelling out
for some LONG overdue flying lessons, and copped the necessary reading that
accompanies that...
Regards,
John Ward
"SnakeEyes" <agalspector@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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quote:
>
> Dallas wrote:
>
>
> You're lucky. When I get a 'gut feeling', it's usually because I need
> to go to the bathroom. : )
>
> I definitely share your sentiments although I feel you know more about
> flying than I do (technically and otherwise). However, I still retain
> the idea I'm using a simulator and as conscientious as I am about how I
> use it, I don't treat the program with as much thoughtfulness. I climb
> into the left seat of my default 737, start 'er up and fly wherever
> want to.
>
> Your thoughts are excellent, you way is excellent, and you're using the
> program to its full advantage. It's creative thinking such as yours
> which will keep your mind sharp and your soul young. Have a nice trip
> and say 'hello' to the bikinis for me, even though they're simulated :
> )
>
> SnakeEyes
>
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| Beech45Whiskey 2006-03-24, 2:03 pm |
| Dallas <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote:
quote:
> If I'm going to sim fly from Dallas to Florida, I would not pick a C172. I
> understand that making that flight in a C172 would be pretty difficult and
> perhaps even unpleasant. That flight would require grinding away for hours
> in a very fatiguing flight.
While your point of understanding an aircraft's ideal mission is
noteworthy, you must first decide why it is you fly before assuming that
faster and higher is always the most desirable. There are many who believe
it is not destination, but rather the journey that make flying so
enjoyable.
If you haven't already, read Steven Coonts' _The Cannibal Queen_, a
non-fictional account of crossing the US and back in a low and slow 1942
open-cockpit Stearman.
http://www.coonts.com/published_tit...nibal_queen.asp
--
Peter
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| Dudley Henriques 2006-03-24, 2:03 pm |
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"Beech45Whiskey" <pjricc@ZZgmail.com> wrote in message
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There are many who believe
quote:
> it is not destination, but rather the journey that make flying so
> enjoyable.
That would be Homer for one :-)
quote:
>
> If you haven't already, read Steven Coonts' _The Cannibal Queen_, a
> non-fictional account of crossing the US and back in a low and slow 1942
> open-cockpit Stearman.
Flew a J3 down off the East Coast once from Delaware to Key West with the
side panel open all the way. Don't think I was higher than a thousand feet
all the way down. Actually throttled back several times to shout back
"hello" to people waving at me from boats as I went by.
A real fun trip, and one of the best flying experiences I ever had.
Dudley
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| Beech45Whiskey 2006-03-24, 2:03 pm |
| Dudley Henriques <dhenriques@earthlink.net> wrote:
quote:
> Flew a J3 down off the East Coast once from Delaware to Key West with the
> side panel open all the way. Don't think I was higher than a thousand feet
> all the way down. Actually throttled back several times to shout back
> "hello" to people waving at me from boats as I went by.
> A real fun trip, and one of the best flying experiences I ever had.
Very cool. 
--
Peter
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| Dudley Henriques 2006-03-24, 2:03 pm |
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"Beech45Whiskey" <pjricc@ZZgmail.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> Dudley Henriques <dhenriques@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>
> Very cool. 
Only up North. Got warmer as I went South!!
:-)))))
Dudley
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| Dudley Henriques wrote:
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> "Beech45Whiskey" <pjricc@ZZgmail.com> wrote in message
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> Only up North. Got warmer as I went South!!
> :-)))))
>
Geezz, me Irish eyes are shinin, only green with envy... As long as the
weather held anyway - although personally I might opt for a step up to a
150...
Cheers'n Beers (green).... [_])
Don
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| Dudley Henriques 2006-03-24, 2:03 pm |
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"CRaSH" <sorry@aint-here.spam.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>
> Geezz, me Irish eyes are shinin, only green with envy... As long as the
> weather held anyway - although personally I might opt for a step up to a
> 150...
ah.....but then you'd have doors with windows instead of an open right side
panel....and metal instead of that wonderful yellow Irish Linen......and
you'd lose all those great oil and gas smells coming up through the floor
boards.....and you wouldn't have that stick to play with......not to mention
that cute 5 foot high stuffed Teddy Bear with the big smile you carry around
with you in the front seat that drives the girls crazy at every stop you
make.
Now that I think about it........there was that gorgeous Capitol stew in the
tiny Bikini who came over to pet the bear at Key West!!!
Nope.........the 150 would have DEFINITELY been a step DOWN instead of up
:-)))
Dudley
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| Dudley Henriques wrote:
quote:
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> ah.....but then you'd have doors with windows instead of an open
> right side panel....and metal instead of that wonderful yellow Irish
> Linen......and you'd lose all those great oil and gas smells coming
> up through the floor boards.....and you wouldn't have that stick to
> play with......not to mention that cute 5 foot high stuffed Teddy
> Bear with the big smile you carry around with you in the front seat
> that drives the girls crazy at every stop you make.
> Now that I think about it........there was that gorgeous Capitol stew
> in the tiny Bikini who came over to pet the bear at Key West!!!
> Nope.........the 150 would have DEFINITELY been a step DOWN instead
> of up :-)))
OK, several questions come to mind. Did you ferry this down to Key West one
way, and make a commercial flight back home?
And did you have to buy another seat for "bear", or does "bear" now reside
with a former Capitol stew? Our lips are sealed, you can tell us........
d:-> ))
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| Dudley Henriques 2006-03-24, 2:03 pm |
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"CRaSH" <sorry@aint-here.spam.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>
>
> OK, several questions come to mind. Did you ferry this down to Key West
> one way, and make a commercial flight back home?
> And did you have to buy another seat for "bear", or does "bear" now reside
> with a former Capitol stew? Our lips are sealed, you can tell us........
> d:-> ))
I left the J3 at Key West with it's new owner and picked up a Grumman F8F
Bearcat that had been left there for me to fly back to new Jersey to it's
owner. There, Bear and I were picked up by car and on home again.
"Bear" was a constant companion at all my airshows. I flew him around
stuffed into various parts of different airplanes, and he was always there
for the kids to pet and serve as my girl "bait" :-)
Clay Lacy from California also flew a Mustang and had a HUGE Snoopy dog that
went with him everywhere he went. I assume that Clay's Snoopy dog could have
a few "tails" to tell as well :-)))
Bear disappeared mysteriously some years ago. I only hope he ended up in a
good home somewhere with some nice kid who appreciated him.
I only hope that where ever the hell he landed he kept his big pie hole shut
about all our little "escapades" together. :-))
Dudley
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| SnakeEyes 2006-03-24, 2:03 pm |
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
quote:
> Now that I think about it........there was that gorgeous Capitol stew in the
> tiny Bikini who came over to pet the bear at Key West!!!
> Nope.........the 150 would have DEFINITELY been a step DOWN instead of up
> :-)))
> Dudley
Methinks Dudley is feeling a lot better now : ) Must be the Irish in
him......
SnakeEyes
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| SnakeEyes 2006-03-24, 2:03 pm |
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
quote:
> Now that I think about it........there was that gorgeous Capitol stew in the
> tiny Bikini who came over to pet the bear at Key West!!!
> Nope.........the 150 would have DEFINITELY been a step DOWN instead of up
> :-)))
> Dudley
Methinks Dudley is feeling a lot better now : ) Must be the Irish in
him......
SnakeEyes
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| Dallas 2006-03-24, 2:03 pm |
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"Dudley Henriques"
quote:
> Flew a J3 down off the East Coast
The nice thing about the J3 is it's possible to perform in-flight
maintenance.
:-)
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A1C1466DC
Dallas
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| Dudley Henriques 2006-03-24, 2:04 pm |
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"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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quote:
>
> "Dudley Henriques"
>
> The nice thing about the J3 is it's possible to perform in-flight
> maintenance.
>
> :-)
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?A1C1466DC
>
> Dallas
It's funny. After reading your single lead in sentence, I guessed the photo
even before clicking the link. :-)
Now there's a guy who needs a little brush up on alternatives :-))))))))
Dudley
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