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> If I pass my med next week I'm going to resume flight training in C172 (did
> 13 hours way back in 1972/73/74).

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> * FS2004 instrumentation panel view only shows PIC side. Seeing I'll need to
> drive on the right side for a while, I'd like to simulate the RHS panel.

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> I
> think I saw that the view can be customised and I'll check on this further,
> but is there a download or some other means to do what I'm after?

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> * Further to above, can I download a C172 N-model instrument panel? Again, I
> can't remember the differences between this and the [later model] FS2004 sim
> panel, but I guess there are some.

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> * The CH pedals simulate rudder control by sliding fore and aft. I can't for
> the life of me remember what happens in the real plane! I thought maybe the
> pedals just depressed, but then how were the brakes actuated?

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> Saladin <maximDELETETHISBIT@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>
>
> Congratulations.
>
> <snip>>
>
> Why do you believe that you, as a flight student, are going to be taking
> lessons on the right side? Is that how lessons are taught in New Zealand
> (where I believe you are posting from)?
>
> In the US, the brand-new, never-before-seen-an-airplane-from-the-inside
> student or even prospective student is placed in the left seat and it is
> the instructor who always sits in the right seat.
>
> In fact, the US instructors have to go through a learning curve of sorts
> to
> adapt to the right side, since up until that point most if not all of
> their
> hours as PIC were flown from the left side.
>
>
> I am not aware of one for the C172, but there might be one out there.
>
>
> First, the most notable differences between the N model and the later
> models are that the later models are equipped with fuel injected engines,
> so you won't find the primer lever and the carb heat knob in the C172
> included in the sim. Startup procedures are different as a result
> (although IMO the sim makes starting the default aircraft way too easy).
>
> The next notable differences would be found in the avionics, since the
> later model R and S C172s have the new Bendix-King radios, GPS, autopilot,
> and transponders. The N model includes (most likely) an ADF, older style
> radios, and no panel mounted GPS (unless someone sunk a lot of money into
> the panel).
>
>
> Brakes are toe-brakes (like the CH pedals). That is, you press your toes
> against the top of the pedals and brakes are independent, meaning each
> side
> is controlled by its related pedal.
>
> The rudders themselves are actuated by lowering your foot (balls of the
> feet on the floor), then pressing approximately in the middle or lower
> portion of the pedals. They don't slide back like the CH Pedals, but
> rather rotate backwards from a pivot point on the floor. For all
> intents
> and purposes, however, the action is roughly the same as the CH Pedals.
>
> As is always mentioned in this group, two big differences between the sim
> and real life is that in the sim, you must keep pressure on the rudder
> pedal at all times to make a coordinated bank, whereas in real life, you
> would apply aileron and rudder to initiate the turn, then relax both to
> neutral to maintain the bank (assuming a normal bank of 20 to 30 degrees).
>
> The second big difference is that the sim does not model control forces,
> so
> you will most likely find yourself over-controlling the aircraft until you
> get used to the smaller action needed in the sim. In real life, you feel
> the pressure on the controls and are able to make control changes based on
> the feelings of the controls as well as the aircraft's reactions.
>
>
>
> --
> Peter

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> Gees I don't know! I told you it was a long time ago, and I *seem* to
> remember the instructor to my left!?

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> Saladin <maximDELETETHISBIT@wave.co.nz> wrote:
>
>
> In that case, I'll put money on the fact that you will be sitting in the
> left seat when you resume your lessons.
>
> --
> Peter

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> I can assure you here in NZ student sits on left.. I couldn't find the rev
> counter on the 152 at a critical moment because the blimmin thing was way
> over tother side on the right.

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> Whats the NZ price of the CH package Graeme and how long did you wait?
>
> Don
>

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> Hi Don
>
> Well I got it from Auckand (I think) from LemonAid (www.lemonaid.co.nz) .
> Tried through Amazon but they wouldn't ship to NZ. Then tried CH site, but
> decided by the time I paid USD and freight, might as well get locally.
> Cost NZD495.94 incl GST and freight; ordered last Fri; delivered following
> Tues. So not too bad.
>
> Got through my eye test this morning; med next Tues! After that, the left
> hand seat for me!
>
> Cheers
> Graeme
>
>
> "donbutts" <remove.donneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:TraSf.6576$JZ1.214363@news.xtra.co.nz...
>
>

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> well that's about US$325 ?? I think you did well
> Don
> "Saladin" <maximDELETETHISBIT@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:441a0774$1@clear.net.nz...
>
>

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>
>
> Hey Sal,
> No offence, but with a memory like that are you sure you should be
> pursuing your PPL?
> :-)
>
> Yrs Quilly
>
>