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| The Old Bloke 2006-03-09, 11:33 pm |
| This ad has been banned by the British because of the use of the word
"bloody", an everyday word in Aus
http://media.smh.com.au/?rid=18150
Is this ad actually offensive to British people? Quilly?
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| SnakeEyes 2006-03-10, 2:31 am |
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The Old Bloke wrote:
quote:
> This ad has been banned by the British because of the use of the word
> "bloody", an everyday word in Aus
>
> http://media.smh.com.au/?rid=18150
>
> Is this ad actually offensive to British people? Quilly?
I had to listen to the ad twice to catch the 'How the bloody hell are
you'. I think that's what she said.
I know you addressed your post to the Brits, but I'll tell you that I
don't think for a moment the ad would play with those words in Canada
or the USA. We would just cut them out in Canada.
On a positive note, it is a beautiful ad and I think it's great. It
clearly reflects the beauty of the scenery and the people. If I
thought I could get down there, this ad would definitely 'put me over
the top' and I'd be there.
SnakeEyes
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| SnakeEyes 2006-03-10, 2:31 am |
| I watched it again...she said "So, where the bloody hell are you?".
Yeah.....have to stand with my first post. They would take out 'bloody
hell' in Canada for sure.
SE
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| The Old Bloke 2006-03-10, 2:31 am |
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"SnakeEyes" <agalspector@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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quote:
>I watched it again...she said "So, where the bloody hell are you?".
>
> Yeah.....have to stand with my first post. They would take out 'bloody
> hell' in Canada for sure.
>
> SE
I guess the word is seen differently in different parts of the world. Here
it is a absolutely normal word.
Thanks for the feedback.
I just found a poll in the USA on the add.
Here's the link http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11541879/
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| Quilljar 2006-03-10, 5:31 am |
| The Old Bloke wrote:
quote:
> This ad has been banned by the British because of the use of the word
> "bloody", an everyday word in Aus
>
> http://media.smh.com.au/?rid=18150
>
> Is this ad actually offensive to British people? Quilly?
Someone is 'having a loan of ya mate' The epithet 'bloody 'is as well worn
and over-used in the UK in public as it is in OZ. In fact, you will hear
'XXXX' and 'XXXXing' on UK television every day; it is the buzzword for
Gordon Ramsay, one of our most popular TV chefs. This little campagn must
be a publicity stunt by the Aussies who are not up to date with UK culture.
Yes 'bloody' is a modern contraction of the 17th century oath 'by Our Lady'
and hence was considered blasphemous for a couple of centuries. But today?
No, it is as common, if not more so, in the UK as in the southern
hemisphere. Most people wouldn't even spot it. As a matter of interest, I
didn't spot it in the video!
--
Yrs Quilljar
For three good books to read look at...
http://www.quilljar.btinternet.co.uk/covers.htm
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| The Old Bloke 2006-03-10, 5:31 am |
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"Quilljar" <wykehill-flightsim@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:durgju$kt1$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
quote:
> The Old Bloke wrote:
>
> Someone is 'having a loan of ya mate' The epithet 'bloody 'is as well worn
> and over-used in the UK in public as it is in OZ. In fact, you will hear
> 'XXXX' and 'XXXXing' on UK television every day; it is the buzzword for
> Gordon Ramsay, one of our most popular TV chefs. This little campagn must
> be a publicity stunt by the Aussies who are not up to date with UK
> culture.
>
> Yes 'bloody' is a modern contraction of the 17th century oath 'by Our
> Lady' and hence was considered blasphemous for a couple of centuries. But
> today? No, it is as common, if not more so, in the UK as in the southern
> hemisphere. Most people wouldn't even spot it. As a matter of interest, I
> didn't spot it in the video!
>
>
> --
> Yrs Quilljar
> For three good books to read look at...
>
> http://www.quilljar.btinternet.co.uk/covers.htm
>
Thanks Quilly, but here is the newspaper report
http://www.thecouriermail.news.com....255E953,00.html
And it has been widely reported around the world's press. Google it. Snake
Eyes says it would not be allowed in Canada.
The ABC (the Aus Gov Broadcasting Commission) is also reporting the ban. I
would like to see that it is not true. When the ad runs in Britain, let me
know if bloody was left out.
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| The Old Bloke 2006-03-10, 5:31 am |
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"Quilljar" <wykehill-flightsim@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:durgju$kt1$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
quote:
> The Old Bloke wrote:
>
> Someone is 'having a loan of ya mate' The epithet 'bloody 'is as well worn
> and over-used in the UK in public as it is in OZ. In fact, you will hear
> 'XXXX' and 'XXXXing' on UK television every day; it is the buzzword for
> Gordon Ramsay, one of our most popular TV chefs. This little campagn must
> be a publicity stunt by the Aussies who are not up to date with UK
> culture.
>
> Yes 'bloody' is a modern contraction of the 17th century oath 'by Our
> Lady' and hence was considered blasphemous for a couple of centuries. But
> today? No, it is as common, if not more so, in the UK as in the southern
> hemisphere. Most people wouldn't even spot it. As a matter of interest, I
> didn't spot it in the video!
>
>
> --
> Yrs Quilljar
> For three good books to read look at...
>
> http://www.quilljar.btinternet.co.uk/covers.htm
>
And Quilly, look at the bbc website
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4789650.stm
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| Quilljar 2006-03-10, 5:31 am |
| Yes, the report says what I say. The ban is out of touch with British public
opinion. It is clearly a publicity gift, whether intentional or not. As a
direct result, I shall be flying to Melbourne for three weeks on March 23rd
!!
Yeah hey!
Quilly
For three good books to read look at...
http://www.quilljar.btinternet.co.uk/covers.htm
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| Iain Smith 2006-03-10, 7:34 pm |
| I think it's a bloody good ad! :0))
Iain
"The Old Bloke" <no@remove.com> wrote in message
news:OS6Qf.2240$dy4.1600@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
quote:
> This ad has been banned by the British because of the use of the word
> "bloody", an everyday word in Aus
>
> http://media.smh.com.au/?rid=18150
>
> Is this ad actually offensive to British people? Quilly?
>
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| Chris Curtis 2006-03-10, 7:34 pm |
| "The Old Bloke" <no@remove.com> wrote in message
news:OS6Qf.2240$dy4.1600@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
quote:
> This ad has been banned by the British because of the use of the word
> "bloody", an everyday word in Aus
>
> http://media.smh.com.au/?rid=18150
>
> Is this ad actually offensive to British people? Quilly?
This is the country where it was reported last week that a nursery school
has changed the words of the popular children's nursery rhyme 'baa baa black
sheep' to 'baa baa rainbow sheep'. No, I'm not making this up. It really
does make you want to emigrate (perhaps to Oz!)
CC
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| Quilljar 2006-03-10, 7:34 pm |
| Chris Curtis wrote:
quote:
> "The Old Bloke" <no@remove.com> wrote in message
> news:OS6Qf.2240$dy4.1600@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> This is the country where it was reported last week that a nursery
> school has changed the words of the popular children's nursery rhyme
> 'baa baa black sheep' to 'baa baa rainbow sheep'. No, I'm not making
> this up. It really does make you want to emigrate (perhaps to Oz!)
>
> CC
Too true,
And what about that shopkeeper who was told by POLICE to take a golliwog toy
from his window?
Why shouldn't black or white children have black and white dolls?
It is INSANE !
--
Yrs Quilljar
For three good books to read look at...
http://www.quilljar.btinternet.co.uk/covers.htm
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| SnakeEyes 2006-03-10, 7:34 pm |
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Quilljar wrote:
quote:
>
> Too true,
> And what about that shopkeeper who was told by POLICE to take a golliwog toy
> from his window?
> Why shouldn't black or white children have black and white dolls?
> It is INSANE !
See? In Canada, if we called black people 'Golliwogs", firstly they
would go to a government agency and complain of racial slurring, then
they would come back and kill us.
Different culture, different expressions, different rules, different
sensitivities.
Bloody hell, this XXXXing subject is making me knackered.
SnakeEyes
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| Dallas 2006-03-10, 7:34 pm |
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"Quilljar" <
quote:
> Yes 'bloody' is a modern contraction of the 17th century oath 'by Our
Lady'
Do go on.. a contraction of what?
Dallas
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| Dallas 2006-03-10, 7:34 pm |
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"Quilljar"
quote:
> And what about that shopkeeper who was told by POLICE to take a golliwog
toy
quote:
> from his window?
In this country, if you didn't have a racially balanced display in your
window you would be accused of being racist.
Dallas
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| Dallas 2006-03-10, 7:34 pm |
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"Quilljar"
quote:
> And what about that shopkeeper who was told by POLICE to take a golliwog
toy
quote:
> from his window?
Golliwog? That's a new one on me.. Over here, if you called a black guy a
Golliwog he wouldn't hit you.
Isn't incredible how many racial names have come up for the black race?
Dallas
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| Quilljar 2006-03-10, 7:34 pm |
| Dallas wrote:
quote:
> "Quilljar" <
>
> Do go on.. a contraction of what?
>
> Dallas
Just keep saying 'By Our Lady' quickly and you will be saying 'Bloody'
(eventually!)
That is the generally accepted origin of the word...and why it is considered
swearing.
--
Yrs Quilljar
For three good books to read look at...
http://www.quilljar.btinternet.co.uk/covers.htm
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| donbutts 2006-03-10, 7:35 pm |
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quote:
> Golliwog? That's a new one on me.. Over here, if you called a black guy
> a
> Golliwog he wouldn't hit you.
>
> Isn't incredible how many racial names have come up for the black race?
>
> Dallas
Oh I got it ALL wrong over the years.. I thought they, the politicians and
good dooers wanted to point out that golliwogs (lovable icon) and blacks
were 'inferior' so the dolls had to be removed!
I always reckon black and whites were equal human beings so they should all
be on the toy shelf together as black and white.
Butts
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| SnakeEyes 2006-03-10, 7:35 pm |
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donbutts wrote:
quote:
>
> Oh I got it ALL wrong over the years.. I thought they, the politicians and
> good dooers wanted to point out that golliwogs (lovable icon) and blacks
> were 'inferior' so the dolls had to be removed!
>
> I always reckon black and whites were equal human beings so they should all
> be on the toy shelf together as black and white.
>
> Butts
They ARE equal, but some are more equal than others. So said the pigs
in Animal Farm.
I'm not sure if modern black people in Canada would be familiar with
the term 'Wogs', but I'm not going to be the one to test them.
SnakeEyes
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| The Old Bloke 2006-03-10, 7:35 pm |
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"Quilljar" <wykehill-flightsim@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:durgju$kt1$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
quote:
> The Old Bloke wrote:
>
> Someone is 'having a loan of ya mate' The epithet 'bloody 'is as well worn
> and over-used in the UK in public as it is in OZ. In fact, you will hear
> 'XXXX' and 'XXXXing' on UK television every day; it is the buzzword for
> Gordon Ramsay, one of our most popular TV chefs. This little campagn must
> be a publicity stunt by the Aussies who are not up to date with UK
> culture.
>
> Yes 'bloody' is a modern contraction of the 17th century oath 'by Our
> Lady' and hence was considered blasphemous for a couple of centuries. But
> today? No, it is as common, if not more so, in the UK as in the southern
> hemisphere. Most people wouldn't even spot it. As a matter of interest, I
> didn't spot it in the video!
>
>
> --
> Yrs Quilljar
> For three good books to read look at...
>
> http://www.quilljar.btinternet.co.uk/covers.htm
>
A good read
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/bloody
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| CRaSH 2006-03-10, 11:31 pm |
| The Old Bloke wrote:
quote:
> This ad has been banned by the British because of the use of the word
> "bloody", an everyday word in Aus
>
> http://media.smh.com.au/?rid=18150
>
> Is this ad actually offensive to British people? Quilly?
Reminds me of some of skits George Carlin (old US comedian) has done.
His outlook is that they aren't dirty words, only dirty ideas tacked to
them, and even then they can be contradictory = such as the most popular,
XXXX.
It can either be the most enjoyable act between two people on the face of
the earth, as in "lets XXXX", or it can be the next thing to issuing a
verbal death sentence, as in "XXXX you"...........
Make sense, no.... Does the world in general make sense, no...............
Has it (the world, or humanity), or will it ever, NO.......
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| Dallas 2006-03-11, 2:31 am |
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"The Old Bloke"
quote:
> A good read
> http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/bloody
Not only does the word "bloody" not seem like profanity, it doesn't seem to
make any sense.
:-/
But, I guess it's fun to say.
Dallas
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| JohnSP 2006-03-11, 7:32 pm |
| I heard this being discussed on the ABC recently when a linguist argued that
it did not come from "By our Lady". It came from ordinary people's reaction
to the behaviour of the superior classes or bloods. So they would curse
them for their bloody behaviour, bloody laws or whatever.
JohnSP
"Quilljar" <wykehill-flightsim@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:durgju$kt1$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
quote:
> The Old Bloke wrote:
>
> Someone is 'having a loan of ya mate' The epithet 'bloody 'is as well worn
> and over-used in the UK in public as it is in OZ. In fact, you will hear
> 'XXXX' and 'XXXXing' on UK television every day; it is the buzzword for
> Gordon Ramsay, one of our most popular TV chefs. This little campagn must
> be a publicity stunt by the Aussies who are not up to date with UK
> culture.
>
> Yes 'bloody' is a modern contraction of the 17th century oath 'by Our
> Lady' and hence was considered blasphemous for a couple of centuries. But
> today? No, it is as common, if not more so, in the UK as in the southern
> hemisphere. Most people wouldn't even spot it. As a matter of interest, I
> didn't spot it in the video!
>
>
> --
> Yrs Quilljar
> For three good books to read look at...
>
> http://www.quilljar.btinternet.co.uk/covers.htm
>
>
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| Marcel Kuijper 2006-03-12, 7:35 pm |
| On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:54:55 -0600, CRaSH wrote:
quote:
> Reminds me of some of skits George Carlin (old US comedian) has done.
> His outlook is that they aren't dirty words, only dirty ideas tacked to
> them, and even then they can be contradictory = such as the most popular,
> XXXX.
> It can either be the most enjoyable act between two people on the face of
> the earth, as in "lets XXXX", or it can be the next thing to issuing a
> verbal death sentence, as in "XXXX you"...........
> Make sense, no.... Does the world in general make sense, no...............
> Has it (the world, or humanity), or will it ever, NO.......
"Why don't you go outside, play hide, and go XXXX yourself?"
:-)))
I've been a big GC fan for about 15 years now and was amazed to see him in
"Jay and Silent Bob Strikes Back", in which he played a hitchhiker.
And who can forget his lovable character Rufus in the Bill & Ted films?
George is a man who says what needs to be said, never shy to speak his mind
or share his opinion about anything.
Politics, religion, sex, racial debates....he's discussed it all.
I wanna be just like George when I grow up. ;-)
--
Marcel (SAG-21)
(You've got clearance, Clarence. Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?)
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| Dallas 2006-03-13, 2:32 am |
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"Marcel Kuijper"
quote:
> I've been a big GC fan for about 15 years now and was amazed to see him in
> "Jay and Silent Bob Strikes Back", in which he played a hitchhiker.
And the priest in Dogma...
Dallas
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| Mark Peterson 2006-03-13, 7:38 pm |
| SnakeEyes wrote:
quote:
> I watched it again...she said "So, where the bloody hell are you?".
>
> Yeah.....have to stand with my first post. They would take out 'bloody
> hell' in Canada for sure.
Sadly, I agree. What a Wuss country we have become.....
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| Jay Williams 2006-03-14, 7:36 pm |
| A Brit I worked with years back told me it was short for "Blood of the
Lamb" - which I thought was likely has it had the same religious background
as damn, hell, and other swears.
I learn something new every day...
"Quilljar" <wykehill-flightsim@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:durgju$kt1$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
quote:
> The Old Bloke wrote:
>
> Someone is 'having a loan of ya mate' The epithet 'bloody 'is as well worn
> and over-used in the UK in public as it is in OZ. In fact, you will hear
> 'XXXX' and 'XXXXing' on UK television every day; it is the buzzword for
> Gordon Ramsay, one of our most popular TV chefs. This little campagn must
> be a publicity stunt by the Aussies who are not up to date with UK
> culture.
>
> Yes 'bloody' is a modern contraction of the 17th century oath 'by Our
> Lady' and hence was considered blasphemous for a couple of centuries. But
> today? No, it is as common, if not more so, in the UK as in the southern
> hemisphere. Most people wouldn't even spot it. As a matter of interest, I
> didn't spot it in the video!
>
>
> --
> Yrs Quilljar
> For three good books to read look at...
>
> http://www.quilljar.btinternet.co.uk/covers.htm
>
>
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| Quilljar wrote:
quote:
> Yes, the report says what I say. The ban is out of touch with British public
> opinion. It is clearly a publicity gift, whether intentional or not. As a
> direct result, I shall be flying to Melbourne for three weeks on March 23rd
> !!
>
> Yeah hey!
>
> Quilly
>
>
>
> For three good books to read look at...
>
> http://www.quilljar.btinternet.co.uk/covers.htm
>
>
Quilly, don't go to Melbourne. Go to some decent part of Australia, like
Sydney or the NSW North Coast. Bloody Melbourne! Wet one day, same again
the next!
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| The Old Bloke 2006-03-15, 7:34 pm |
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"Gregg" <gregg@greggf.com> wrote in message
news:4417d98c$0$23292$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
quote:
> Quilljar wrote:
> Quilly, don't go to Melbourne. Go to some decent part of Australia, like
> Sydney or the NSW North Coast. Bloody Melbourne! Wet one day, same again
> the next!
Agreed!!
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| airgard 2006-03-15, 7:34 pm |
| The Old Bloke wrote:
quote:
> This ad has been banned by the British because of the use of the word
> "bloody", an everyday word in Aus
>
> http://media.smh.com.au/?rid=18150
>
> Is this ad actually offensive to British people? Quilly?
>
>
Well Maaaate, I remember here a few years ago, a guy got sent to court
for saying F**k to a cop. The judge dismissed it and said that the word
is so common place in Australia that its no longer offensive. Our music
shows on tele all have the australian version with the language, or the
bloody beeped over versions from america. Late night tv play the aussie
versions.
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| airgard 2006-03-15, 7:34 pm |
| BTW, I wasin the aussie army years ago, we had our own language that
everybody used everyday like XXXXspasm, clusterXXXX and shit
fight...swearing is part of aussie sulture...bloody doesnt even rate as
offensive language...
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| Quilljar 2006-03-16, 7:34 pm |
| airgard wrote:
quote:
> BTW, I wasin the aussie army years ago, we had our own language that
> everybody used everyday like XXXXspasm, clusterXXXX and shit
> fight...swearing is part of aussie sulture...bloody doesnt even rate
> as offensive language...
The Ad in question was on our mainstream TV last night in the UK and the
girl at the end says 'Where the hell am I?'
So the 'bloody' has been cut out. I am amazed, as fruity swearing is on out
tv all the time!
--
Yrs Quilljar
For three good books to read look at...
http://www.quilljar.btinternet.co.uk/covers.htm
Buy all three books and get them post free to anywhere on the planet.
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