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> For those using Ultimate Terrain when you can find a moment or two;

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>How much better than the default scenery is it REALLY?

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> "Dudley Henriques"
>
> Ok... in return for the roll lesson:
>
>
> In reality, it's really not a product to improve the scenery in the
> traditional sense. It's basically just 2 major things:
>
> 1) Roads and Railroads.
> 2) Accurate coastlines.
>
> The minor additions are an improvement in night lighting and a small bit
> of
> landclass for the cities.
>
> Despite the fact that the roads look spray painted on top of the
> landclass,
> it adds to the feeling that a civilization might exist down below. You
> can
> see the freeways for VFR flight... and you can find your street. New
> roads
> appear everywhere they didn't use to be. These roads produce a fantastic
> effect for night flying. It's a good thing.
>
> The coastlines are a big deal too because they make lakes look far more
> realistic. Oceanic coastlines become complex and interesting. Both of
> these effect the sim in very positive ways.
>
> Frame rate hit... subjectively speaking, I have not noticed any. I did
> notice a substantial increase in scenery load times - 50-100% longer, but
> not a deal breaker.
>
> I believe the author actually encourages FSGenesis mesh to make things
> match
> up better. He flattens the major highways and that removes a lot of
> erroneous abnormalities from the default.
>
> So, it's not so much a scenery thing... I believe UTUSA in combination
> with
> the upcoming Birds Eye View textures will complete the total package.
>
> Dallas
>
>

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>I have to keep my system fairly clean and frame rate friendly for the
>testing I do with add on's, but like everyone else, I do enjoy having the
>sim look as real as possible without screwing things up frame rate wise.
>Toward this end, I usually keep the scenery add on's to a minimum and just
>accept the default scenery with the exception of something like the Reading
>Airport scenery that I have as additional.

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>I'm looking at this Ultimate Terrain with some interest. Presently, I do
>have the Genesis USA landclass installed, as it perks up the local "look" a
>bit. I like this program because it's so frame rate friendly for the visual
>upgrade I get.
>Can someone who is using the Ultimate Terrain give me some feedback on it?
>What I need to know is how much it actually gives me in return for the frame
>rate hit I'll take. How much better than the default scenery is it REALLY?
>Have they solved the water running uphill and the roads running across the
>rivers where no bridges exist issues with this new program? Does the scenery
>blur at low altitudes??????

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>Should I uninstall the Genesis landclass if I get the Ultimate Terrain?

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>I realize I'm asking a lot of questions here, but I'd really like to have a
>handle on what to expect before I jump into this program.
>Generally, aside from these questions which are very important to me, any
>feedback will be appreciated.

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>
> Sure thing ;-)
>
>
> I have several renamed copy of the fs9.exe file: fs9_low_and_slow,
> fs9_high_and_fast, fs9_test that all create a different corresponding
> fs9.cfg file. Then I set the options differently for each and just
> click on one shortcut...
>
> For the scenery I use scm2004 to quickly choose a specific set (file
> is on avsim or flightsim)
>
>
> The difference is astounding and apart from selecting either all roads
> instead of main ones or the night lightning in heavily urban areas
> there is no frame rate hit, only longer loading time in some areas. I
> know I couldn't fly without it now...
>
>
> Absolutely not, they complement each other perfectly and Justin
> "FSGenesis" has updated some files *for* Ultimate Terrain. FSGenesis
> USA landclass works fine with UT and there is even a special patch for
> it as well if you want to apply all layers for the best look possible
> (UT landclass for areas not covered by FSG under the FSG landclass and
> on top a special transparent layer of UT better urban landclass - see
> forum below for details)
>
>
> Just mind that you have broadband and use the Flight1 Download
> Utility, this is one whooping big file, you will have to add both
> updates 1.1 and 1.2 afterwards. There are compatibility updates for
> some add-ons such as Misty Fjords, Alaska Cinematics and Holger's
> freeware sceneries. Also take the time to visit the forum at
> www.simforums.com
>
> ===
> All the best!
> Katy Pluta

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> the famous Parker House roll!!!

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> "Dudley Henriques"
>
> I heard doing that one too many times can make you fat.
>

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> The new shorelines make a huge difference (though as Dallas pointed out
> in another post, the "beachness" of them sometimes suffers). Here are
> some screenshots I made several weeks ago, using UT, FS Genesis mesh
> and FS Genesis landclass. Focus is on shorelines, with some night
> lighting thrown in for good measure:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/157488...ets/658083/show
>
> Here's the San Bernadino Mountains set I shared in another thread;
> includes a few with Lake Arrowhead and more night lighting:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/157488...ets/661080/show
>
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> Many thanks for the screens. Beautiful stuff!! Looks like a keeper. I
> understand there are two patches as well and the DL is horrific. It looks
> like for this one I might be better off waiting just a bit longer to get
> the CD which I understand is on the way.
> Thanks again. I think I'll get the program.
> D

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> It looks like for this one I might be better off

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> The tool verifies the data and can resume if interrupted. I just set
> it up when I went to bed and in the morning, viola!
>

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> Don't you mean you set it up in the morning when you went to bed??? <G>