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| 3 Weeks ago I upgraded my primitive Nvidia FX5200 128 card to a Radeon 9800
Pro 128mb. I know this is getting old now but my system cant cope with the
new cards. 3 days ago the computer started making a horrible noise on
boot-up in the morning for about 2 mins. At first I thought it was the
heatsink fan which I changed, then the psu fan (didnt change this) now I
have determined that the fan on the graphics card has dodgy bearings. The
card is a Sapphire brand. I now have to drive 30 miles to the store for
testing (problem tempermental so I hope its faulty when I get there).
Anyone else have problems with the fans on cards. My psu has a very limited
supply only 215 watts?? (I know) but things seem to chug along ok.
When I fitted the card I was worried about supply as it requires its own
supply and I had to use a 'Y' power connector. I will upgrade the psu but
wondered if any of you techies knew if this fault is related to lack of
power. I run alot off psu - 2 HDs (80mb & 60mb), AMD 1400 pro, Radeon 9800
pro card, dvd/rw, dvdrom, video capture card, modem etc. The monitor used
to be powered by this supply but computer kept reseting so I gave it its own
supply.
Thanks in advance
Chris
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| Chips \(formerly Andy\) 2005-07-21, 8:37 pm |
| Chris,
I've never had problems with *new* fans - are you sure you got a *new*
graphics card?
Also, for the price of a new ATX 400W PSU (£15 where I am) I'd go for that
immediately. Sounds like you've got a lot of hardware sucking juice. It's a
simple operation for most machines. I hope you don't have a Dell, though.
As you ask, the lack of power won't have loosened the fan bearings, btw.
Chips.
"Chris" <chris@mwapartnership.co.uk> wrote in message
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quote:
>3 Weeks ago I upgraded my primitive Nvidia FX5200 128 card to a Radeon 9800
>Pro 128mb. I know this is getting old now but my system cant cope with
>the new cards. 3 days ago the computer started making a horrible noise on
>boot-up in the morning for about 2 mins. At first I thought it was the
>heatsink fan which I changed, then the psu fan (didnt change this) now I
>have determined that the fan on the graphics card has dodgy bearings. The
>card is a Sapphire brand. I now have to drive 30 miles to the store for
>testing (problem tempermental so I hope its faulty when I get there).
>
> Anyone else have problems with the fans on cards. My psu has a very
> limited supply only 215 watts?? (I know) but things seem to chug along ok.
> When I fitted the card I was worried about supply as it requires its own
> supply and I had to use a 'Y' power connector. I will upgrade the psu but
> wondered if any of you techies knew if this fault is related to lack of
> power. I run alot off psu - 2 HDs (80mb & 60mb), AMD 1400 pro, Radeon
> 9800 pro card, dvd/rw, dvdrom, video capture card, modem etc. The monitor
> used to be powered by this supply but computer kept reseting so I gave it
> its own supply.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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| The computer is a Packard Bell. Graphics card is new OEM version of
Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro. The grating sound is definately coming from the
fan on the card. It seems most motherboards have the graphics card slot
above the pci slots and the card manufacturers place their fans on the
bottom of the card resulting in the fan being very close to the pci card
adjacent to it (about 2mm). The fan isnt catching the pci card as I was
able to lever the card away slightly. I dont have any free pci slots to be
able to free up a bit of space below fan. The shop said it would look at it
and replace if need be but I would like a second opinion in case they start
saying its caused by poor installation rather than an industry standard
which doesnt allow adequate space for ventilation around slots.
Chris
"Chips (formerly Andy)" <andy.cippico@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Chris,
> I've never had problems with *new* fans - are you sure you got a *new*
> graphics card?
> Also, for the price of a new ATX 400W PSU (£15 where I am) I'd go for that
> immediately. Sounds like you've got a lot of hardware sucking juice. It's
> a simple operation for most machines. I hope you don't have a Dell,
> though.
> As you ask, the lack of power won't have loosened the fan bearings, btw.
> Chips.
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> "Chris" <chris@mwapartnership.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dbnqlb$9i1$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
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"Chris" <chris@mwapartnership.co.uk> wrote in message
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quote:
> The computer is a Packard Bell. Graphics card is new OEM version of
> Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro. The grating sound is definately coming from the
> fan on the card. It seems most motherboards have the graphics card slot
> above the pci slots and the card manufacturers place their fans on the
> bottom of the card resulting in the fan being very close to the pci card
> adjacent to it (about 2mm). The fan isnt catching the pci card as I was
> able to lever the card away slightly. I dont have any free pci slots to
> be able to free up a bit of space below fan. The shop said it would look
> at it and replace if need be but I would like a second opinion in case
> they start saying its caused by poor installation rather than an industry
> standard which doesnt allow adequate space for ventilation around slots.
>
> Chris
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Sounds like you can't, but it's always a good idea to leave the PCI slot
next to the AGP free, for cooling reasons
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| Katy Pluta 2005-07-21, 8:37 pm |
| >The computer is a Packard Bell. Graphics card is new OEM version of
quote:
>Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro. The grating sound is definately coming from the
>fan on the card. It seems most motherboards have the graphics card slot
>above the pci slots and the card manufacturers place their fans on the
>bottom of the card resulting in the fan being very close to the pci card
>adjacent to it (about 2mm). The fan isnt catching the pci card as I was
>able to lever the card away slightly. I dont have any free pci slots to be
>able to free up a bit of space below fan. The shop said it would look at it
>and replace if need be but I would like a second opinion in case they start
>saying its caused by poor installation rather than an industry standard
>which doesnt allow adequate space for ventilation around slots.
Card's fan just seems defective, have a replacement card...
===
Best Regards
Katy
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| My Full name 2005-07-21, 8:37 pm |
| "Chris" <chris@mwapartnership.co.uk> wrote in
news:dbnqlb$9i1$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com:
quote:
> 3 Weeks ago I upgraded my primitive Nvidia FX5200 128 card to a Radeon
> 9800 Pro 128mb. I know this is getting old now but my system cant
> cope with the new cards. 3 days ago the computer started making a
> horrible noise on boot-up in the morning for about 2 mins. At first I
> thought it was the heatsink fan which I changed, then the psu fan
> (didnt change this) now I have determined that the fan on the graphics
> card has dodgy bearings. The card is a Sapphire brand. I now have to
> drive 30 miles to the store for testing (problem tempermental so I
> hope its faulty when I get there).
>
> Anyone else have problems with the fans on cards. My psu has a very
> limited supply only 215 watts?? (I know) but things seem to chug along
> ok. When I fitted the card I was worried about supply as it requires
> its own supply and I had to use a 'Y' power connector. I will upgrade
> the psu but wondered if any of you techies knew if this fault is
> related to lack of power. I run alot off psu - 2 HDs (80mb & 60mb),
> AMD 1400 pro, Radeon 9800 pro card, dvd/rw, dvdrom, video capture
> card, modem etc. The monitor used to be powered by this supply but
> computer kept reseting so I gave it its own supply.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Chris
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Upgrade the Power Supply, they are coming down in price.
Don't stress the card when you secure it. The clearances on the fan's
bearings, and the ability to flex the card when screwing it down can warp
the card (saw this on an industrial computer).
Leave an M T PCI slot next to it is a good idea too.
Keep the innerd's clean, clean, clean
--
e v e n S k y
Athalon XP2800
1 G Ram
GeForce FX5900XT
160G H-D (my newest little darlin')
80G H-D
XP, FS9
Wingman Strike force 3D
CH yoke n' pedals
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| Ibby \(The Artist Formally Known as Chris\) 2005-07-22, 6:32 am |
| Will get new psu tomorrow when I take pc to shop. There seems to be a
slight error in the placement of the motherboard to the casing as I always
have a slight problem getting the screw into the hole for securing cards to
the back of the case, seems to be out by about 1mm so maybe cards are being
bent very slightly. I have no spare pci slots. Motherboard only has 1 x
AGP, 2 x pci (1 is used) and the other has a shorter socket below it which
has the internal modem connected with connections for the modem coming out
the rear of the case are in line with the spare pci slot so I cant move any
cards. You will probably say get broadband and loose the modem for a usb
one but i cant afford it at mo as we are with ntl (through BT) and dont pay
a penny for an internet package so changing to broadband would have an
increased cost. Might take out the tv tuner card (pci) for tomorrow in case
shop argues about proximity of it to Radeon card.
Ibby
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> Upgrade the Power Supply, they are coming down in price.
>
> Don't stress the card when you secure it. The clearances on the fan's
> bearings, and the ability to flex the card when screwing it down can warp
> the card (saw this on an industrial computer).
>
> Leave an M T PCI slot next to it is a good idea too.
>
> Keep the innerd's clean, clean, clean
>
> --
> e v e n S k y
>
> Athalon XP2800
> 1 G Ram
> GeForce FX5900XT
> 160G H-D (my newest little darlin')
> 80G H-D
> XP, FS9
> Wingman Strike force 3D
> CH yoke n' pedals
>
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