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| Sailorman 2005-03-23, 6:05 pm |
| I saw a post here about a freeware F4U7 for FS2004 available at Avsim. I
downloaded it, and it looks like a great. The 2d and virtual cockpit are
as nice as I've seen.
The problem is that I can't get the darn thing off the ground. I've
applied as much rudder trim as it will let me, some aileron trim, and tried
adding power slowly. I even tried a little diff braking, but I keep
spinning off the runway to the right.
As anyone here figured out this beast yet.
Keith
PS - I recently purchased the Wings of Power P51 and it is awesome. I
recommend it highly. Maybe I'll grab their B-17 next.
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| Quilljar 2005-03-23, 6:05 pm |
| I recommend slew in these cases!
Cheers,
Quilly
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| stevej 2005-03-23, 6:05 pm |
| Presume you have not got a cross wind ?
Try lowering the fuel load,
HTH
Steve
"Sailorman" <keith21@msn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96226EBA1A341Keith55@65.32.5.121...
quote:
>I saw a post here about a freeware F4U7 for FS2004 available at Avsim. I
> downloaded it, and it looks like a great. The 2d and virtual cockpit are
> as nice as I've seen.
>
> The problem is that I can't get the darn thing off the ground. I've
> applied as much rudder trim as it will let me, some aileron trim, and
> tried
> adding power slowly. I even tried a little diff braking, but I keep
> spinning off the runway to the right.
>
> As anyone here figured out this beast yet.
>
>
> Keith
>
>
> PS - I recently purchased the Wings of Power P51 and it is awesome. I
> recommend it highly. Maybe I'll grab their B-17 next.
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| Oskar Wagner 2005-03-23, 6:05 pm |
| "Sailorman" <keith21@msn.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:Xns96226EBA1A341Keith55@65.32.5.121...
quote:
>I saw a post here about a freeware F4U7 for FS2004 available at Avsim. I
> downloaded it, and it looks like a great. The 2d and virtual cockpit are
> as nice as I've seen.
>
> The problem is that I can't get the darn thing off the ground. I've
> applied as much rudder trim as it will let me, some aileron trim, and
> tried
> adding power slowly. I even tried a little diff braking, but I keep
> spinning off the runway to the right.
>
> As anyone here figured out this beast yet.
>
>
> Keith
>
>
> PS - I recently purchased the Wings of Power P51 and it is awesome. I
> recommend it highly. Maybe I'll grab their B-17 next.
Keith, I got the same problem here. Glad to hear that someone else has this
strange behaviour.... ;-)
What I did to get it airborne is the following:
I reduced P-factor and torque in the realism menue to around 70% (instead of
100)
and - believe it or not - make sure the tailwheel is NOT locked during
T/O!!! (this contradictory to all experience from R/L...)
I found that with the tailwheel locked I could not control the break-off to
the left. When unlocking it everything worked smoothly......!!!!!!!
I know darn well that it should actually be the other way round but so far
it's the only thing I can tell. I guess I have to dig into that a bit deeper
some time later. Maybe something will show up that I have overlooked till
now.
--
Oskar
(retired captain)
Remember, in the great scheme of things, we're all small potatoes...
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| Gypsy Baron 2005-03-23, 6:05 pm |
| Sailorman wrote:
quote:
>
> I saw a post here about a freeware F4U7 for FS2004 available at Avsim. I
> downloaded it, and it looks like a great. The 2d and virtual cockpit are
> as nice as I've seen.
>
> The problem is that I can't get the darn thing off the ground. I've
> applied as much rudder trim as it will let me, some aileron trim, and tried
> adding power slowly. I even tried a little diff braking, but I keep
> spinning off the runway to the right.
>
> As anyone here figured out this beast yet.
>
> Keith
I seem to remember, way back, that there was a "fix" addition to
an F4U that corrected that problem. I can't remember if it was
for the same model but I know I initially had the same problem
you are having. Have another pass at the Avsim library, searching
for a fix.
Paul
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| Sailorman 2005-03-23, 6:05 pm |
| "Oskar Wagner" <rengaw@swissonline.ch> wrote in
news:d1s6r2$tn2$1@news.hispeed.ch:
quote:
> "Sailorman" <keith21@msn.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:Xns96226EBA1A341Keith55@65.32.5.121...
>
> Keith, I got the same problem here. Glad to hear that someone else has
> this strange behaviour.... ;-)
> What I did to get it airborne is the following:
>
> I reduced P-factor and torque in the realism menue to around 70%
> (instead of 100)
> and - believe it or not - make sure the tailwheel is NOT locked during
> T/O!!! (this contradictory to all experience from R/L...)
> I found that with the tailwheel locked I could not control the
> break-off to the left. When unlocking it everything worked
> smoothly......!!!!!!! I know darn well that it should actually be the
> other way round but so far it's the only thing I can tell. I guess I
> have to dig into that a bit deeper some time later. Maybe something
> will show up that I have overlooked till now.
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The instructions indicate trim settings, which included 8 right for the
rudder. I went to the max of 10 right and still couldn't keep it on the
runway whenever the manifold pressure anywhere near 25in. They recommend
30in for t/o. I also adjusted my joystick sensitivities per the
recommendations in the "Read Me". Maybe I'll screw around with the p-
factor. I hate to modify the aircraft if it is modelled correctly. I know
the corsairs has a ton of prop torque, but this seems more than I could
imagine. By the way, I had the same experience with locking the tailwheel.
Thanks,
Keith
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| Sailorman 2005-03-23, 6:05 pm |
| Gypsy Baron <no-one@not.at.aol.com> wrote in
news:4241B4CE.3500@not.at.aol.com:
quote:
> Sailorman wrote:
>
> I seem to remember, way back, that there was a "fix" addition to
> an F4U that corrected that problem. I can't remember if it was
> for the same model but I know I initially had the same problem
> you are having. Have another pass at the Avsim library, searching
> for a fix.
>
> Paul
>
Paul,
Thank you sir. There is a patch for this at Avsim. The file name is.
cof4ufix.zip
I haven't tried this yet, but it should be what I need. Thank you
everyone.
Keith
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| Randy L. 2005-03-23, 10:03 pm |
| Sailorman,
I just downloaded & installed the patch for this aircraft (cof4ufix.zip)
from Avsim.com, and it does indeed fix the excessive torque problem for this
Corsair. Its still not easy, and you have to be careful, but at least now it
is possible to take off. God, what a gorgeous aircraft! The patch also
includes 2 new Marine Corps skins. I highly recommend this aircraft for
anyone who likes WWII vintage aircraft. The panels are excellant, the VC is
excellant, the sound is excellant. I am VERY impressed!
Randy L.
"Sailorman" <keith21@msn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96226EBA1A341Keith55@65.32.5.121...
quote:
>I saw a post here about a freeware F4U7 for FS2004 available at Avsim. I
> downloaded it, and it looks like a great. The 2d and virtual cockpit are
> as nice as I've seen.
>
> The problem is that I can't get the darn thing off the ground. I've
> applied as much rudder trim as it will let me, some aileron trim, and
> tried
> adding power slowly. I even tried a little diff braking, but I keep
> spinning off the runway to the right.
>
> As anyone here figured out this beast yet.
>
>
> Keith
>
>
> PS - I recently purchased the Wings of Power P51 and it is awesome. I
> recommend it highly. Maybe I'll grab their B-17 next.
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| Vern Young 2005-03-23, 10:03 pm |
| I agree totaly with Randy's assessment. The Marine Corp model makes one
lovely desktop picture as well.
The elevator trim speed was a little slow for me so I increased it from 0.5
to 1.5 in the aircraft config file and now it's perfect. A real delight.
Vern
"Randy L." <rlink"nospam"@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:1143vs4s7k3i482@corp.supernews.com...
quote:
> Sailorman,
> I just downloaded & installed the patch for this aircraft
> (cof4ufix.zip) from Avsim.com, and it does indeed fix the excessive torque
> problem for this Corsair. Its still not easy, and you have to be careful,
> but at least now it is possible to take off. God, what a gorgeous
> aircraft! The patch also includes 2 new Marine Corps skins. I highly
> recommend this aircraft for anyone who likes WWII vintage aircraft. The
> panels are excellant, the VC is excellant, the sound is excellant. I am
> VERY impressed!
>
> Randy L.
>
> "Sailorman" <keith21@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96226EBA1A341Keith55@65.32.5.121...
>
>
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| Jan Berg 2005-03-23, 10:03 pm |
| "Vern Young" <xpilot> wrote:
quote:
>I agree totaly with Randy's assessment. [..]
Like i do! When i first saw this model, i couldn't
believe it's freeware. Maybe the artists who made
this for our pleasure, would appreciate some nice
comments via mail.
Jan
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| Hi Folks,
quote:
> I just downloaded & installed the patch for this aircraft
> (cof4ufix.zip)
> from Avsim.com
Why can't I find it on there? I've searched the library, and they return a
blank result...
Steve
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| Greasy Rider© @invalid.com 2005-03-24, 6:04 pm |
| On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:56:31 GMT, Steve <steve@morleys.org>
postulated :
quote:
>Hi Folks,
>
>
>Why can't I find it on there? I've searched the library, and they return a
>blank result...
I downloaded the a/c and the fix last night with no problems.
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| Greasy Rider© @invalid.com 2005-03-24, 6:04 pm |
| On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:56:31 GMT, Steve <steve@morleys.org>
postulated :
quote:
>Hi Folks,
>
>
>Why can't I find it on there? I've searched the library, and they return a
>blank result...
If you still can't download the fix, ping me
and I'll send you the file... 6.68MB
billSPAM27612 at yahoo dot com
(do the obvious)
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| Oskar Wagner 2005-03-24, 6:04 pm |
| "Steve" <steve@morleys.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:Xns96236F4DF3F65stevemorleysorg@199.175.106.247...
quote:
> Hi Folks,
>
>
> Why can't I find it on there? I've searched the library, and they return
> a
> blank result...
>
> Steve
It's sometimes a bit tricky to find a file at avsim... (at least to my
experience) ;-)
Got to the AVSIM file library and click "Extended search". Enter
"corsairf4u7.zip" for the A/C and "cof4ufix.zip" for the fix. Wildcards are
also allowed. That shouldn't give you any problems to find and download the
file.
Good luck! ;-)))
--
Oskar
(retired captain)
Remember, in the great scheme of things, we're all small potatoes...
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| Steve 2005-03-24, 10:04 pm |
| "As real as it gets" has somewhat passed you by, hasn't it.
Steve
"Quilljar" <wykehill-flightsim@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3adjmeF6akq4sU1@individual.net...
quote:
> I recommend slew in these cases!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Quilly
>
>
| |
|
| Hi Oskar,
quote:
> It's sometimes a bit tricky to find a file at avsim... (at least to my
> experience) ;-)
> Got to the AVSIM file library and click "Extended search". Enter
> "corsairf4u7.zip" for the A/C and "cof4ufix.zip" for the fix.
Thanks, hadn't even seen the extended search before. Found it right away.
Steve
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| Quilljar 2005-03-25, 7:02 am |
| Steve wrote:
quote:
> "As real as it gets" has somewhat passed you by, hasn't it.
>
> Steve
Hi Steve,
You are right in a sense. I love real life flying as a PPL, I also love FS9,
I think it's great. But no way can I pretend that it is like real flying, so
I don't even make the effort. I get such pleasure out of it as a piece of
computer entertainment. I could NEVER waste my time going through a genuine
start-up, procedure for an aircraft for example. But I know that many other
people do, and that is the joy of the program. It is versatile enough for us
all to enjoy it in our own way...I use the slew more than anything else to
get where I want quickly.
Thanks for the chance to make this point again :-)
Cheers,
Quilly
| |
|
| Hi Folks,
quote:
> I just downloaded & installed the patch for this aircraft
> (cof4ufix.zip)
> from Avsim.com
Why can't I find it on there? I've searched the library, and they return a
blank result...
Steve
| |
| Greasy Rider© @invalid.com 2005-03-30, 7:48 pm |
| On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:56:31 GMT, Steve <steve@morleys.org>
postulated :
quote:
>Hi Folks,
>
>
>Why can't I find it on there? I've searched the library, and they return a
>blank result...
If you still can't download the fix, ping me
and I'll send you the file... 6.68MB
billSPAM27612 at yahoo dot com
(do the obvious)
| |
| Greasy Rider© @invalid.com 2005-03-30, 7:48 pm |
| On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:56:31 GMT, Steve <steve@morleys.org>
postulated :
quote:
>Hi Folks,
>
>
>Why can't I find it on there? I've searched the library, and they return a
>blank result...
I downloaded the a/c and the fix last night with no problems.
| |
| Oskar Wagner 2005-03-30, 7:48 pm |
| "Steve" <steve@morleys.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:Xns96236F4DF3F65stevemorleysorg@199.175.106.247...
quote:
> Hi Folks,
>
>
> Why can't I find it on there? I've searched the library, and they return
> a
> blank result...
>
> Steve
It's sometimes a bit tricky to find a file at avsim... (at least to my
experience) ;-)
Got to the AVSIM file library and click "Extended search". Enter
"corsairf4u7.zip" for the A/C and "cof4ufix.zip" for the fix. Wildcards are
also allowed. That shouldn't give you any problems to find and download the
file.
Good luck! ;-)))
--
Oskar
(retired captain)
Remember, in the great scheme of things, we're all small potatoes...
| |
|
| "As real as it gets" has somewhat passed you by, hasn't it.
Steve
"Quilljar" <wykehill-flightsim@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3adjmeF6akq4sU1@individual.net...
quote:
> I recommend slew in these cases!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Quilly
>
>
| |
|
| Hi Oskar,
quote:
> It's sometimes a bit tricky to find a file at avsim... (at least to my
> experience) ;-)
> Got to the AVSIM file library and click "Extended search". Enter
> "corsairf4u7.zip" for the A/C and "cof4ufix.zip" for the fix.
Thanks, hadn't even seen the extended search before. Found it right away.
Steve
| |
| Quilljar 2005-03-30, 7:48 pm |
| Steve wrote:
quote:
> "As real as it gets" has somewhat passed you by, hasn't it.
>
> Steve
Hi Steve,
You are right in a sense. I love real life flying as a PPL, I also love FS9,
I think it's great. But no way can I pretend that it is like real flying, so
I don't even make the effort. I get such pleasure out of it as a piece of
computer entertainment. I could NEVER waste my time going through a genuine
start-up, procedure for an aircraft for example. But I know that many other
people do, and that is the joy of the program. It is versatile enough for us
all to enjoy it in our own way...I use the slew more than anything else to
get where I want quickly.
Thanks for the chance to make this point again :-)
Cheers,
Quilly
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