Flight simulator - Rudder Pedal help...

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Rudder Pedal help...

Matthew Pierce

2005-10-26, 11:33 pm

I have Ch Rudder Pedals and Fighterstick. I am having a hard time finding
any info or practice tips on how to use rudder at all. Anyone have any
practice tips? Tips that might have a real relationship with real flying
would also be good. How do I get better at using the rudder and when do I
use it?

There is plenty info on using it for taxiing. I know how to do that.

Thanks,

MP

Dallas

2005-10-27, 2:32 am

"Matthew Pierce"

quote:

> I am having a hard time finding
> any info or practice tips on how to use rudder at all.

http://avstop.com/AC/FlightTraingHandbook/Rudder.html

Yeah, it's a little rocket science... reading it a couple of times helps.

Dallas

Dudley Henriques

2005-10-27, 2:32 am

Staying away from aerodynamics and keeping it simple;
On the ground, use the rudder to point the airplane where you want it to go.
In the air, never use the stick that you don't use the rudder with it. Left
stick, left rudder. Right stick, right rudder......together. When you
neutralize the ailerons at the bank you want, neutralize the rudder as well.
I'd advise you to study up on controls and what each one does. There are
cross control uses for the rudder that I'm not dealing with here.
This should get you started anyway :-)
Dudley Henriques
"Matthew Pierce" <seedmuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
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quote:

>I have Ch Rudder Pedals and Fighterstick. I am having a hard time finding
>any info or practice tips on how to use rudder at all. Anyone have any
>practice tips? Tips that might have a real relationship with real flying
>would also be good. How do I get better at using the rudder and when do I
>use it?
>
> There is plenty info on using it for taxiing. I know how to do that.
>
> Thanks,
>
> MP
>

Chris G.

2005-10-27, 7:33 pm

also remember this.... "Step on the ball" and keep the ball centered.
"The Ball" is the normally located in the lower half of the turn
coordinator instrument. In helos, you don't normally need to do
that...just use the stick and bank through the turn (according to the
Helicopter Flying Handbook) and I can't vouch for how good or bad helos
are modeled in FS9...YMMV there.

Do what Dudley and Dallas suggested, too. Good luck!

Chris G.
PP-ASEL

Dudley Henriques wrote:

quote:

> Staying away from aerodynamics and keeping it simple;
> On the ground, use the rudder to point the airplane where you want it to go.
> In the air, never use the stick that you don't use the rudder with it. Left
> stick, left rudder. Right stick, right rudder......together. When you
> neutralize the ailerons at the bank you want, neutralize the rudder as well.
> I'd advise you to study up on controls and what each one does. There are
> cross control uses for the rudder that I'm not dealing with here.
> This should get you started anyway :-)
> Dudley Henriques
> "Matthew Pierce" <seedmuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:4OX7f.7072$p_6.5485@trndny07...
>
>
>
>

Matthew Pierce

2005-10-27, 11:32 pm

Thanks to Dudley, Dallas and Chris!

Dudley's comment "When you neutralize the ailerons at the bank you want,
neutralize the rudder as well." was the key! I've heard "right turn, right
rudder," etc and "step on the ball." Its the part after that they forgot a
saying for.

- Matt

"Chris G." <nospam@noemail> wrote in message
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> also remember this.... "Step on the ball" and keep the ball centered. "The
> Ball" is the normally located in the lower half of the turn coordinator
> instrument. In helos, you don't normally need to do that...just use the
> stick and bank through the turn (according to the Helicopter Flying
> Handbook) and I can't vouch for how good or bad helos are modeled in
> FS9...YMMV there.
>
> Do what Dudley and Dallas suggested, too. Good luck!
>
> Chris G.
> PP-ASEL
>
>
> Dudley Henriques wrote:

Han Solo

2005-10-28, 7:35 pm

quote:

> also remember this.... "Step on the ball" and keep the ball centered.
> "The Ball" is the normally located in the lower half of the turn
> coordinator instrument. In helos, you don't normally need to do
> that...just use the stick and bank through the turn (according to the
> Helicopter Flying Handbook) and I can't vouch for how good or bad helos
> are modeled in FS9...YMMV there.

Actually in helicopters it works the same.
Left turn, left pedal; right turn, right pedal.
The pedals are also used to keep the helicopter balanced in flight
checking the ball (or the fabric strings outside the windscreen
in small helicoters ie. the Robinson 22).
Even in stright and level flight a little amount of left or right pedal
is necessary to maintain the aircraft balanced counteracting
the wind.

At slow speeds (under the ETL speed) the pedals are necessary to yaw the
helicopter
into the direction you want to go (ie. off groung taxing) and keep it.

In helicopter flying the use of the pedals is the hardest thing to learn as
they are
the most important inputs that let you hover and put the machine on the
ground
safely.

--------------------
Paolo Vittorini
Italy

Klaus C Nielsen (DK)

2005-10-30, 5:31 am

Matthew Pierce wrote:

quote:

> Thanks to Dudley, Dallas and Chris!
>
> Dudley's comment "When you neutralize the ailerons at the bank you want,
> neutralize the rudder as well." was the key! I've heard "right turn, right
> rudder," etc and "step on the ball." Its the part after that they forgot a
> saying for.
>
> - Matt
>
>
> "Chris G." <nospam@noemail> wrote in message
> news:43611c47$0$74441$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net...
>
>

I did not know that either. Thanks for asking that question Matthew
Regards
Klaus

Simon Robbins

2005-10-30, 7:35 pm

"Matthew Pierce" <seedmuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
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quote:

> Thanks to Dudley, Dallas and Chris!
>
> Dudley's comment "When you neutralize the ailerons at the bank you want,
> neutralize the rudder as well." was the key! I've heard "right turn, right
> rudder," etc and "step on the ball." Its the part after that they forgot a
> saying for.

If your pedals are new to your FS installation, make sure you turn off "Auto
rudder" in the aircraft realism settings, otherwise you'll end up confused
as to whether they're working properly or not.

If you're serious about learning how to use the rudder correctly, you should
get yourself a basic flying manual from your local flying school. It will
make you a better sim pilot fo sure. If you can stretch to it, Jeppeson's
"Private Pilot's Manual" is a heavy tome full of everything you need to know
in the PPL syllabus. You'll be amazed at how much more enjoyment you can
get out of FS when you start planning proper routes using the basic skills.

Si