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> If a natural disaster won't kill you, a plane crash will.

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>A Bellview Airlines 737-200, carrying Nigerian officials, disappeared from
>radar shortly after takeoff from Lagos and crashed.

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>Their have been several conflicting reports about possible survivors, but
>CNN.com is reporting that there are none.

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>If a natural disaster won't kill you, a plane crash will.

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>This is NOT a good year for people!

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>So please...take 5 minutes from your busy schedules to tell the people
>around you how you feel about them....before it's too late!

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> A Bellview Airlines 737-200, carrying Nigerian officials, disappeared from
> radar shortly after takeoff from Lagos and crashed.
>
> Their have been several conflicting reports about possible survivors, but
> CNN.com is reporting that there are none.
>
> If a natural disaster won't kill you, a plane crash will.
> This is NOT a good year for people!
>
> So please...take 5 minutes from your busy schedules to tell the people
> around you how you feel about them....before it's too late!
>
> --
>
> Marcel (SAG-21)
> (If you've gotta be part of a group, be part of a group of simmers!)

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> Marcel Kuijper <zoepetier_nothing_here@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> ... or a car crash, or a heart attack, or a chunk of pizza that goes down
> the wrong tube, or falling off a ladder, or blah, blah, blah.
>
> Your sentence is a wee bit too sensationalistic for me.

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>
>On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:00:39 -0400, Beech45Whiskey wrote:
>
>
>I'm not trying to be sensationalistic....but perhaps I should have
>added "given the past several months".

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> Ya know what?
>
> It never happened. None of it did.
> Hurricanes? What hurricanes?
> Earthquakes? Naaah...all in the head!
> Tsunamis? You're seeing things!
> And it ain't the year 2005 either! It's still 1321 and we're just dreaming
> of the possible future!
> It's gotta be 1321, because no one seems to care about what's going on
> outside their windows anymore!

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> Marcel (SAG-21)
> "Quack, damn you!" - Jamie Hyneman

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>
> Ya know what?
>
> It never happened. None of it did.
> Hurricanes? What hurricanes?
> Earthquakes? Naaah...all in the head!
> Tsunamis? You're seeing things!
>
> And it ain't the year 2005 either! It's still 1321 and we're just dreaming
> of the possible future!
> It's gotta be 1321, because no one seems to care about what's going on
> outside their windows anymore!
>
> --
>
> Marcel (SAG-21)
> "Quack, damn you!" - Jamie Hyneman

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>
> Ya know what?
>
> It never happened. None of it did.
> Hurricanes? What hurricanes?
> Earthquakes? Naaah...all in the head!
> Tsunamis? You're seeing things!
>
> And it ain't the year 2005 either! It's still 1321 and we're just dreaming
> of the possible future!
> It's gotta be 1321, because no one seems to care about what's going on
> outside their windows anymore!
>
> --
>
> Marcel (SAG-21)
> "Quack, damn you!" - Jamie Hyneman

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> Many, many of us care, Marcel, to the point of misery and frustration,
> because we all know we still don't have the capability to control nature and
> must accept the bad with the good.

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> Oops! Forgot to write the message. "Another third world air crash.
> I wonder if it was shoddy maintenance or terrorism. Either way, you
> won't see me flying Nigerian Airlines anytime soon!"
> Greg
>

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> On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 16:07:58 -0400, Arthur wrote:
>
>
> I just finished re-reading a book I had read several years ago, where the
> 'hero of the story" was a gifted young man. He was the genetic product of
> three "Fringe Cultures" from colonized planets. His brilliance gained him
> the insight that "humanity had left Earth too soon." For all their
> technical prowess and fancy gadgets, humanity still hadn't learned to
> respect nature, nor had they learned how to work cooperatively.
>
> There are days when I believe we left the trees too soon... ;)
>
> Bill

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> The only time I would find myself flying Nigerian Airlines would be when I
> am going there to collect the 2.1 million US Dollars that they have in a
> special security deposit box that only I can access with my credit card so
> that they don't get killed by some King who was wrongfully detained and
> then escaped from exile just in time to stash all this money that they so
> desperately want me to collect!
> Crash Lander
>
> --
> I'm not always right,
> But I'm never wrong!
> "aakermit" <aakermit@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:1130085398.051233.138920@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>

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> It's gotta be 1321, because no one seems to care about what's going on
> outside their windows anymore!

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> Haha.. and I thought I was the only one being offered that!!!!!
>
> Don
>
> "Crash Lander" <here@there.com.za> wrote in message
> news:435c45b6_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
>
>

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> A valid point Bill, but it seems it's the Neanderthals (sp) that keep
> causing all the trouble, keep behaving like they ARE still in the
> trees.

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> Crash Lander wrote:
>
> Now don't exaggerate, we all know they've moved on to caves nowdays...
> d:-> ))

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>
>"Marcel Kuijper"
>
>Hey, we're all gonna die from the Avian Flu this winter anyway so why worry?
>
>Dallas
>

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> You mean the genetically engineered virus (with scores of snuffed-out
> micro-bio'gists) which could result in marshall law in the US? and is
> being used to threaten China

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> There are days when I believe we left the trees too soon... ;)

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>
> Ya know what?
>
> It never happened. None of it did.
> Hurricanes? What hurricanes?
> Earthquakes? Naaah...all in the head!
> Tsunamis? You're seeing things!
>
> And it ain't the year 2005 either! It's still 1321 and we're just dreaming
> of the possible future!
> It's gotta be 1321, because no one seems to care about what's going on
> outside their windows anymore!

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> Crash Lander wrote:
>
> Now don't exaggerate, we all know they've moved on to caves nowdays...
> d:-> ))

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> On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:01:06 -0400, Bill Leaming wrote:
>
>
> We did and that's the sorry truth....

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>On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 16:07:58 -0400, Arthur wrote:
>
>
>I just finished re-reading a book I had read several years ago, where the
>'hero of the story" was a gifted young man. He was the genetic product of
>three "Fringe Cultures" from colonized planets. His brilliance gained him
>the insight that "humanity had left Earth too soon." For all their
>technical prowess and fancy gadgets, humanity still hadn't learned to
>respect nature, nor had they learned how to work cooperatively.

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>There are days when I believe we left the trees too soon... ;)

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>Bill

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>On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 07:27:35 -0500, CRaSH wrote:
>
>
>Yes, but they get to experience fine dining with the GEICO Spokesman...
>
>(Apologies to our friends across the pond who aren't afflicted with silly GEICO commercials...)
>
>"Saving money on your car insurance is so easy, even a caveman can do it!"
>
>Bill

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>
> A Bellview Airlines 737-200, carrying Nigerian officials, disappeared from
> radar shortly after takeoff from Lagos and crashed.
>
> Their have been several conflicting reports about possible survivors, but
> CNN.com is reporting that there are none.
>
> If a natural disaster won't kill you, a plane crash will.
> This is NOT a good year for people!
>
> So please...take 5 minutes from your busy schedules to tell the people
> around you how you feel about them....before it's too late!
>
> --
>
> Marcel (SAG-21)
> (If you've gotta be part of a group, be part of a group of simmers!)

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> ASN ACCIDENT DIGEST 2005-25
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
>
> Date: 22 OCT 2005
> Time: ca 20:40 local time
> Type: Boeing 737-2L9
> Operator: Bellview Airlines
> Registration: 5N-BFN
> Msn / C/n: 22734/818
> Year built: 1981
> Engines: 2 Pratt & Whitney JT8D jet engines
> Crew: 6 fatalities / 6 on board
> Passengers: 111 fatalities / 111 on board
> Total: 117 fatalities / 117 on board
> Airplane damage: Written off
> Location: near Lisa (Nigeria)
> Phase: En Route (ENR)
> Nature: Domestic Scheduled Passenger
> Departure airport: Lagos-Murtala Muhammed Airport (LOS)
> Destination airport: Abuja International Airport (ABV)
> Flight number: 210
> Bellview flight 210 took off from Lagos at 20:35 for a domestic flight to
> Abuja. Last radio contact was about three minutes after takeoff. The
> flight
> was cleared to climb to FL250 and was to report when reaching FL130.
> The next morning the wreckage was found about 30 kms (20 miles) north of
> Lagos.
> The latest Lagos TAF weather forecast for the period of the crash read:
> DNMM 221550Z 221818 28007KT 9999 FEW010
> TEMPO 0507 5000 BR
> BECMG 0810 21008G20KT BKN013
> TEMPO FEW020CB=
> sources: This Day, Guardian
> --------------------------------------------
> AIRCRAFT PROFILE BOEING 737
> * Last hull-loss 737-200 accident : 05 SEP 2005 Mandala Airlines PK-RIM,
> at
> Medan- 149 fatalities
> * Total number of Boeing 737 hull-losses: 121 (111 accidents, 4
> hijackings,
> 6 other occurrences (sabotage, ground fire etc.)), of which 66 losses were
> fatal
> * Total number of Boeing 737-200 hull-losses: 97 (87 accidents, 4
> hijackings, 6 other occurrences (sabotage, ground fire etc.)), of which 51
> losses were fatal
> * 11th worst 737 accident
> * 6th worst 737-200 accident
> * Survival rate for all fatal B737-200 accidents: on average 34,3% of all
> occupants survived fatal accidents
> * history of this airplane:
> - OY-MBW Maersk (13 NOV 1981, first flight)
> - OY-MBW Midway Airlines (SEP 1985)
> - OY-MBW Maersk (NOV 1988)
> - VR-HYM Dragonair (APR 1989)
> - N171PL Aero Costa Rica (SEP 1993)
> in 1995 and 1996 the airplane was briefly leased to Halisa Air
> (Haiti) and Islena Airlines (Honduras)
> - N271FL Frontier Airlines (JUN 1996)
> - N271FL GECAS (OCT 2002) and stored at Everett
> - 5N-BFN Bellview Airlines (APR 2003)
> On March 30, 2005, the airplane suffered an engine fire on takeoff from
> Kano. This caused a grass fire resulting in serious damage to the
> transformers and electrical cables serving runway 24.
> --------------------------------------------
> OPERATOR PROFILE BELLVIEW AIRLINES
> * founded: 1992
> * fleet: 5 Boeing 737-200 aircraft, 2 Boeing 767-200 aircraft
> * 1st airliner hull-loss accident
> --------------------------------------------
> COUNTRY PROFILE NIGERIA
> * Last airliner hull-loss accident: 29 NOV 2003 Boeing 747-258C of Hydro
> Air
> Cargo at Lagos - 0 fatalities
> * Last fatal airliner hull-loss accident: 21 MAY 2002 Let 410UVP of Sky
> Executive Airlines near Akani Obi Oron- 5 fatalities
> * 3rd worst airliner hull-loss accident
> * The country is not yet rated in FAA's International Aviation Safety
> Assessment Program (IASA)
> --------------------------------------------
>

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> "Paul R" <rudmans@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:aBk7f.2416$S24.166767@news.xtra.co.nz...
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> Certainly an interesting read. Where do you get this information?
> Crash Lander
>
>

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> One of Jane Goodall's greatest contributions to science was her seminal
> work on the social behavior of primates... We humans could learn a lot from
> the "monkeys..." ;)

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> On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 06:28:38 -0400, Bill Leaming wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Well...we already share similar methods of initial reactions; attacking a
> group will start a fight, if one screams they all start screaming, the
> alpha male will always be the subject of challenge, never bother the kids
> and both our species are always willing to try something stupid and
> dangerous to attract the attention of other members of our species.
>
> The only real difference is that I've never heard of an ape that has a pet
> human. :-)
>

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> On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 16:05:31 +0200, Marcel Kuijper
> <zoepetier_nothing_here@hotmail.com> brought the following:
>
>
>
> Oh.. well those `officials' probably weren't amenable to the policies
> of the IMF. Maybe they though of selling the natural resources of
> their country for a profit to benefit the native population. This kind
> of thing is often necessary to install banker stooges in their place.
>
>
>
>
> Hope it's not another uncontrolled rudder incident.. or is that a
> remote controlled rudder incident?
>
>
>
>
> Nigerian Nationalism can also kill you!! especially it oil reserves
> or natural resources are involved.
>
>
>
>
> The totalitarian NWO is proceeding on schedule.
>
>
>
>
> They're too busy watching TV and don't want to be disturbed.
>
>

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>It is true that there are unavoidable risks in life. The problem is
>with allowing others to dictate the amount of risks we should be
>subjected to while they maximize profits.
>
>Check out this link..
>
>http://www.motherjones.com/news/out...ight_risk1.html
>
>Could this crash in any way be related to Plame-gate? IMO, it very well
>could - we need to discover who was on that flight and what relationship
>any of them may have had with the P-gate scandal. Were any of them
>witnesses?
>
>Anyone who doubts the possibility should read "Confessions of an
>Economic Hit Man", by John Perkins.

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> You mean you never watched Planet of the Apes??? hehee sorry had to say
> it......

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> Fringe Cultures from colonized planets?? there are LOTS of
> good books that shed some REAL light on "humanity." Ones that
> won't be found on the bookstore shelves either.

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> I think some of you guys are too reliant on the boobious-tubie
> for info and enlightenment.