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I was watching the Australian Open and you all know how it is,
commercials every 10 minutes.
So I wanted to ask someone down under. Is Fosters REALLY the word for
beer down there????
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boB
U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
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| Dave E 2005-01-28, 3:54 am |
| "boB" <akita77REMOVECAPS@XXXexcite.com> wrote in message
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quote:
>
> I was watching the Australian Open and you all know how it is,
> commercials every 10 minutes.
>
> So I wanted to ask someone down under. Is Fosters REALLY the word for
> beer down there????
Hi Bob,
From my neck of the woods (Sydney), the answer is generally a resounding NO.
Fosters in the opinion of many is a disgrace and the fact that it is so
heavily promoted around the world shows the power of advertising and often
charges us with embarrasment to say the least.
A few months ago I was travelling in Asia with the wife and was horrified
that Fosters beer was often priced above top shelf Belgian drops. Doesn't
say much for the taste of the locals.
On a final note, I have to say that Fosters will however kick Bud's butt!
Cheers,
Dave E (Sydney)
(I drink top Aussie beers like Stella, Hoegaarden, Leffe, Erdinger and other
Trappist Ales...)
quote:
>
> --
>
> boB
>
> U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
> Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
>
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| William 2005-01-28, 3:54 am |
| So whats the Australian beer of choice?
And just about anything will kick Buds butt :-)
Bill
"Dave E" <i.am@my.wits.end.with.spam> wrote in message
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quote:
> "boB" <akita77REMOVECAPS@XXXexcite.com> wrote in message
> news:41F9DC8E.3090901@XXXexcite.com...
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> From my neck of the woods (Sydney), the answer is generally a resounding
> NO.
> Fosters in the opinion of many is a disgrace and the fact that it is so
> heavily promoted around the world shows the power of advertising and often
> charges us with embarrasment to say the least.
>
> A few months ago I was travelling in Asia with the wife and was horrified
> that Fosters beer was often priced above top shelf Belgian drops. Doesn't
> say much for the taste of the locals.
>
> On a final note, I have to say that Fosters will however kick Bud's butt!
>
>
> Cheers,
> Dave E (Sydney)
> (I drink top Aussie beers like Stella, Hoegaarden, Leffe, Erdinger and
> other
> Trappist Ales...)
>
>
>
>
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| Melissa 2005-01-28, 6:52 am |
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Hi Dave,
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:58:23 +1100, you wrote:
quote:
> A few months ago I was travelling in Asia with the wife and was
> horrified that Fosters beer was often priced above top shelf
> Belgian drops.
Horrifying indeed! Even me, not much of a drinker (though I don't
mind a nice glass of wine with dinner), can appreciate a fine, fresh
Belgian ale, yet I wasn't very impressed with the one Foster's I
tried about 20 years ago!
About US brews:
I could never stand any of the mass advertised US "regulars"
(Budweiser, Miller, etc.), but when some of those cute little
"micro-breweries" started popping up, I tried a beer from one place
in Seattle after a long, hot bicycle ride, and it wasn't entirely
unpleasant! :-)
- --
Melissa
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| Dave E wrote:
quote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> From my neck of the woods (Sydney), the answer is generally a resounding NO.
> Fosters in the opinion of many is a disgrace and the fact that it is so
> heavily promoted around the world shows the power of advertising and often
> charges us with embarrasment to say the least.
>
> A few months ago I was travelling in Asia with the wife and was horrified
> that Fosters beer was often priced above top shelf Belgian drops. Doesn't
> say much for the taste of the locals.
I figured as much. Ever so often there's a commercial touting some ice
cream famous through-out Europe. I only lived there for 11 years so I
must have missed seeing that one. Actually I lived in Germany for 11
years, both when it was FRG, and then when it united.
--
boB
U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
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"boB" <akita77REMOVECAPS@XXXexcite.com> wrote in message
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> Is Fosters REALLY the word for beer down there????
>
Hey there Bob ......the answer is a definate NO! ,
at least not where I live Country Victoria .... it's VB or Carlton Cold.
hmmmm..... warm enough to have one now.... cheers 8^)
Dave.
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| Dave E 2005-01-28, 12:55 pm |
| Hi Bill,
For me the taste of a Hahn Premium or Cascade Premium is hard to beat at the
end of a long week (or a short week, if it's hot, or cold, or if the wind is
blowing at 15 deg from North.....). Don't mind the odd wheat beer either -
perhaps a little Redback from Western Australia.
Not really into the 'Crownies' (Crown Lager) - and it's not because it comes
from Victoria (Aussies will know what I mean here...).
Cheers,
Dave (Sydney)
(Really love the Belgians though...)
"William" <alone@home.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> So whats the Australian beer of choice?
>
> And just about anything will kick Buds butt :-)
> Bill
>
> "Dave E" <i.am@my.wits.end.with.spam> wrote in message
> news:35u9l0F4qef9qU1@individual.net...
often[vbcol=seagreen]
horrified[vbcol=seagreen]
Doesn't[vbcol=seagreen]
butt![vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
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| Carl Inglis 2005-01-28, 12:55 pm |
| On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:58:23 +1100, "Dave E"
<i.am@my.wits.end.with.spam> wrote:
[snip]
quote:
>On a final note, I have to say that Fosters will however kick Bud's butt!
[snip]
Budwieser or Budvar?
The former is the (poor) American attempt to copy the (excellent)
Czech latter.
But then you know what they say about American "beer"? It's like sex
in a canoe... F***ing close to water.
[ducks flames from leftpondians] :-)
--
"Then again, I don't really give a shit for the subculture,
except that it gives the rest of us a bad name."
-- foo@foo.invalid in uk.religion.pagan
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| William 2005-01-28, 12:55 pm |
| Thanks will see if any at my local store...love to try new stuff...My son
came over the other day and some Bud lite in the fridge and asked when I was
going for therapy :-)
Bill
"Dave E" <i.am@my.wits.end.with.spam> wrote in message
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quote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> For me the taste of a Hahn Premium or Cascade Premium is hard to beat at
> the
> end of a long week (or a short week, if it's hot, or cold, or if the wind
> is
> blowing at 15 deg from North.....). Don't mind the odd wheat beer
> either -
> perhaps a little Redback from Western Australia.
>
> Not really into the 'Crownies' (Crown Lager) - and it's not because it
> comes
> from Victoria (Aussies will know what I mean here...).
>
> Cheers,
> Dave (Sydney)
> (Really love the Belgians though...)
>
>
> "William" <alone@home.com> wrote in message
> news:OkmKd.28406$ky2.23815@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> often
> horrified
> Doesn't
> butt!
>
>
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| Chris Curtis 2005-01-28, 12:55 pm |
|
"Dave E" <i.am@my.wits.end.with.spam> wrote in message
news:35u9l0F4qef9qU1@individual.net...
quote:
> "boB" <akita77REMOVECAPS@XXXexcite.com> wrote in message
> news:41F9DC8E.3090901@XXXexcite.com...
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> From my neck of the woods (Sydney), the answer is generally a resounding
> NO.
> Fosters in the opinion of many is a disgrace and the fact that it is so
> heavily promoted around the world shows the power of advertising and often
> charges us with embarrasment to say the least.
>
A bit like Carling in the UK then!!
Chris
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| Chris Curtis 2005-01-28, 12:55 pm |
| <donna@humeiser.com.au> wrote in message
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quote:
>
> "boB" <akita77REMOVECAPS@XXXexcite.com> wrote in message
> news:41F9DC8E.3090901@XXXexcite.com...
>
>
>
> Hey there Bob ......the answer is a definate NO! ,
> at least not where I live Country Victoria .... it's VB or Carlton Cold.
> hmmmm..... warm enough to have one now.... cheers 8^)
>
> Dave.
Had a great time in Colorado last September where I was introduced to USA
brew pubs and their beers. Even volunteered at the Denver Beer Festival!
Fantastic selection with some great flavours but they did tend to be quite
strong, bloody cold and over carbonated!
Later did the Coors Brewery tour during which the guide took great pride in
telling us we would be having the freshest beer possible in the lounge
afterwards! It was horrible!
Chris
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|
| boB wrote:
quote:
> I was watching the Australian Open and you all know how it is,
> commercials every 10 minutes.
>
> So I wanted to ask someone down under. Is Fosters REALLY the word for
> beer down there????
If you hand someone a Fosters down here and say "G'day mate, hava beer." The
reply would usually be a sarcastic "You call that a beer??"
That's why we mostly export it
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"boB" <akita77REMOVECAPS@XXXexcite.com> wrote in message
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quote:
>
> I was watching the Australian Open and you all know how it is,
> commercials every 10 minutes.
>
> So I wanted to ask someone down under. Is Fosters REALLY the word for
> beer down there????
>
> --
>
> boB
>
> U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
> Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
>
No, it's crap....do you honestly believe we'd sell good beer to other
countries?
Scet
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| Dallas 2005-01-28, 12:55 pm |
|
"Carl Inglis"
quote:
> But then you know what they say about American "beer"? It's like sex
> in a canoe... F***ing close to water.
quote:
> [ducks flames from leftpondians] :-)
No flames from us... I am at a loss to explain American beer... it was bad
enough 20 years ago, then the marketing departments came up with "Light
Beer" (basically watering down their product). I thought, "That will never
sell..". Boy, was I wrong.
Explain this:
On vacation in Aruba I was enjoying Amstel. Got back to the states and
bought some Amstel and it was awful. I was on vacation in Canada enjoying
Lebatt Blue. Got back to the states bought some Blue and it was awful.
What's up with that?
Dallas
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| Quilljar 2005-01-28, 5:52 pm |
| > Explain this:
quote:
> On vacation in Aruba I was enjoying Amstel. Got back to the states
> and bought some Amstel and it was awful. I was on vacation in Canada
> enjoying Lebatt Blue. Got back to the states bought some Blue and it
> was awful.
>
> What's up with that?
>
> Dallas
Explanation : YOU WERE ON HOLIDAY !
--
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| Arthur 2005-01-28, 5:52 pm |
| What does beer have to do with flying, unless you're a Southwest pilot? : )
Arthur
"TR" <reply_ng@please.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> boB wrote:
>
> If you hand someone a Fosters down here and say "G'day mate, hava beer."
> The
> reply would usually be a sarcastic "You call that a beer??"
> That's why we mostly export it
>
>
>
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| Melissa 2005-01-28, 5:52 pm |
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Hi Arthur,
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:30:00 -0500, you wrote:
quote:
> What does beer have to do with flying, unless you're a Southwest
> pilot? : )
Oooh...do tell! I've flown with Southwest a few times, and I always
enjoyed their peanuts! But should I be concerned about their flight
crew's drinking habits as well? :-)
- --
Melissa
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| Marshall Banana 2005-01-28, 10:30 pm |
| Also Sprach Dallas <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.hotmail.com>:
quote:
> Explain this:
> On vacation in Aruba I was enjoying Amstel. Got back to the states and
> bought some Amstel and it was awful. I was on vacation in Canada enjoying
> Lebatt Blue. Got back to the states bought some Blue and it was awful.
Fer one thing, domestic Canadian beer is not the same as export Canadian
beer... Moosehead sold in the US isn't even made in Canada. Also, some US
states have stringent regulations on the alcohol content and brewing
methods of any beveage sold under the term "beer". I know in Georgia, the
alcohol limit had to be less than 6%, and it was damn hard to find a decent
double-bock.
Dan
--
Give a hungry man a fish and you have fed him for a day, but give him a case
of dynamite and soon the entire village will be showered with mud and water
and hard-to-identify little chunks of fish.
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| Bill Leaming 2005-01-28, 10:30 pm |
| On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:05:11 -0800, Melissa wrote:
quote:
> Oooh...do tell! I've flown with Southwest a few times, and I always
> enjoyed their peanuts! But should I be concerned about their flight
> crew's drinking habits as well? :-)
Hmmm.... Melissa, I've just managed (after a LOT of fumbling about) to get
40tude Dialog "sort of" working here...
I notice that whenever I click on one of YOUR messages, I get a cute little
marijuana leaf displaying on the right side, just to the right of the
message header...
Is this some form of "hidden message" you're sending out, or is there
something you're not telling us?
Bill
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| Melissa 2005-01-28, 10:30 pm |
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Hi Bill,
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:40:52 -0500, you wrote:
quote:
> Hmmm.... Melissa, I've just managed (after a LOT of fumbling about)
> to get 40tude Dialog "sort of" working here...
It seems a few people here are trying it now. I hope I haven't
inspired too many headaches by mentioning it the other day! :-)
quote:
> I notice that whenever I click on one of YOUR messages, I get a cute
> little marijuana leaf displaying on the right side, just to the
> right of the message header...
quote:
> Is this some form of "hidden message" you're sending out, or is
> there something you're not telling us?
Hmmm. There may well be a message in there somewhere, but if I
wanted to hide it, I guess it might have been more subtle to display
an X-Face of Bambi or something. ;-)
Seriously though, I've always felt that the medicinal/holy herb has
been unfairly and too harshly judged (most often by those who have
never bothered to personally investigate its particular charms), so I
don't mind giving it a bit of "positive exposure" here and there. :-)
I could offer all sorts of happy anecdotes from my own personal
experiences over the years, but here's something to consider as
well...
When my late father was dying of Leukemia, and suffering terribly from
the effects of chemotherapy after his bone marrow transplant, the
*only* thing that gave him any real relief from some of his many
discomforts were the THC pills his doctor gave him. Before this
experience of his, he had always been "anti-anything" that had to do
with the "evil weed" (even for purely medicinal purposes), though he
had never had any personal experience with it one way or another. His
moral and legal opposition to the herb had always been extreme. After
his experience with it, he seriously re-thought his position, and he
was ever thankful to God for providing such a fine and benevolent
natural herb (he mentioned this many times in just so many words).
:-)
- --
Melissa
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| Bill Leaming 2005-01-28, 10:30 pm |
| On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:20:24 -0800, Melissa wrote:
quote:
> It seems a few people here are trying it now. I hope I haven't
> inspired too many headaches by mentioning it the other day! :-)
Well, I've been looking for a better newsreader than Netscape... ;) But to
be honest, this has got way more bells and whistles than I can possibly
use, but I'm going to keep it anyway.
The biggest hurdle was trying to remember my durn password(s) for the SMTP
server and the news server! ;) It's been a LONG time since I've needed to
know them. ;)
quote:
> Hmmm. There may well be a message in there somewhere, but if I
> wanted to hide it, I guess it might have been more subtle to display
> an X-Face of Bambi or something. ;-)
I was actually teasing, since I didn't know that you could enable an
"Avatar" on a newsgroup reader... I'll have to see if I can find
something apropos for me, perhaps a clove of garlic or something.
quote:
> When my late father was dying of Leukemia, and suffering terribly from
> the effects of chemotherapy after his bone marrow transplant, the
> *only* thing that gave him any real relief from some of his many
> discomforts were the THC pills his doctor gave him.
I would rather my brother have had a prescription for THC rather than the
liquid morphine & ora-morph the doctor insisted that he take, while he was
dying from liver cancer The side-effects of morphine are IMHO far worse
than the medicinal benefits (severe constipation & dehydration). For
obvious reasons, the problem of addiction simply had no relevance whatever.
Bill
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| Dallas 2005-01-29, 3:54 am |
|
"Bill Leaming"
quote:
> I'll have to see if I can find
> something apropos for me, perhaps a clove of garlic or something.
Lump of coal?
:-P
Dallas
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| Dallas 2005-01-29, 3:54 am |
| "Melissa"
quote:
> Oooh...do tell! I've flown with Southwest a few times, and I always
> enjoyed their peanuts! But should I be concerned about their flight
> crew's drinking habits as well? :-)
Here's one making a fuel stop in LA.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.../Fill-er-up.jpg
Humor aside, I don't think Southwest has ever killed anyone.
Dallas
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| Dallas 2005-01-29, 3:54 am |
| "Marshall Banana"
quote:
> Fer one thing, domestic Canadian beer is not the same as export Canadian
> beer...
Yeah, I don't think Amstel distributes their real beer here.. just Amstel
Lite... Yuck!
Dumbing it down for the American market.
I also heard a rumor that the US requires specific preservatives in their
beer and that messes them up... somehow I don't believe that one.
Dallas
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| Chris Harries 2005-01-29, 6:55 am |
| Export...since when do you export Fosters...its Brewed in England..check the
adverts in the right hand corner, says brewed in England. The best beer has
to be Stella
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quote:
> "Melissa"
>
> Here's one making a fuel stop in LA.
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.../Fill-er-up.jpg
>
>
> Humor aside, I don't think Southwest has ever killed anyone.
>
> Dallas
>
>
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| Chris Curtis 2005-01-29, 11:56 am |
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> "Melissa"
>
> Here's one making a fuel stop in LA.
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.../Fill-er-up.jpg
>
>
> Humor aside, I don't think Southwest has ever killed anyone.
>
> Dallas
>
>
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I seem to remember this was a runway overshoot after an initially successful
landing. Others here will porbably fill in the details
MS
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> What on earth happened?!
>
> Chris
>
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| ccsuwxman 2005-01-29, 5:54 pm |
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<donna@humeiser.com.au> wrote in message
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> "boB" <akita77REMOVECAPS@XXXexcite.com> wrote in message
> news:41F9DC8E.3090901@XXXexcite.com...
>
>
>
> Hey there Bob ......the answer is a definate NO! ,
> at least not where I live Country Victoria .... it's VB or Carlton Cold.
> hmmmm..... warm enough to have one now.... cheers 8^)
>
> Dave.
>
When I was in Australia last August, I was surprised by how many Aussies
badmouthed Foster's. Apparently, it's exported in huge quantities because
no one over there will drink it. The beer of choice for me, in Adelaide, at
least, was Cooper's. And in Sydney and Cairns, it was Victoria Bitter (VB).
Both are quite good, IMHO.
Steve
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| Chris Curtis 2005-01-29, 5:54 pm |
| "Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mark Seery"
> successful
>
> http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/wn1455/photo.shtml
>
> Dallas
>
Thanks Dallas. Could have been a major disaster!
Chris
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| IIRC from what my Dad told me (Brewery manager for 30 years......I miss all
that free beer......coming home from school (age7) and cracking open a can
of Brewmaster *sigh*) ...........Heineken is a 'dead' lager in that its
yeast is not active.....its pretty much sterile........in the UK the CO2
content, pressurization, acidity and being sealed up keep it fresh for a
year or so.......
However I much prefer Bitter to lagers.........more of a mans drink than a
boys drink to get bladdered on............
Anyone tried Bishops Finger.........yummy!
http://www.shepherd-neame.co.uk/bee...?bishops_finger
--
M
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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quote:
> "Marshall Banana"
>
> Yeah, I don't think Amstel distributes their real beer here.. just Amstel
> Lite... Yuck!
>
> Dumbing it down for the American market.
>
> I also heard a rumor that the US requires specific preservatives in their
> beer and that messes them up... somehow I don't believe that one.
>
> Dallas
>
>
>
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| Marshall Banana 2005-01-30, 3:52 am |
| Also Sprach Dallas <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.hotmail.com>:
quote:
> "Melissa"
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Here's one making a fuel stop in LA.
quote:
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.../Fill-er-up.jpg
Heh. My first thought was: That can't be LA! There's snow on the
ground, and gas is less than two bucks a gallon!
Dan
--
Here lies poor Lester Moore
Shot 4 times with a .44
No Les.
No Moore.
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| Mark Seery 2005-01-30, 11:56 am |
|
quote:
>
> However I much prefer Bitter to lagers.........more of a mans drink than a
> boys drink to get bladdered on............
>
> Anyone tried Bishops Finger.........yummy!
At last, a fellow real beer drinker :-)
I've noticed how fashionable bitters are becoming again now that the
supermarkets are selling larger varieties of stocks in "designer" bottles
with pretty labels. The marketing men are having their day...
MS
Slowly recovering this morning from last nights session on Tanglefoot :-)
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| Carl Inglis 2005-01-31, 12:21 pm |
| On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:23:55 +0000 (UTC), "Mark Seery"
<mark.seery1@nospambtopenworld.com> wrote:
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>At last, a fellow real beer drinker :-)
You can add me to the list too - much prefer a real ale.
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>Slowly recovering this morning from last nights session on Tanglefoot :-)
One of the best named beers I've ever encountered. My feet were
certainly tangled around themselves last time I had a session on it.
Carl
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"Rude alert. Rude alert. An electrical fire has knocked out my voice
recognition unicycle. Many Wurlitzers are missing from my database. Abandon
shop. This is not a daffodil. Repeat: This is _not_ a daffodil."
-Holly, 'Red Dwarf'
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